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LP's AA Rankings heading into the Holiday Tourney's

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:16 pm
by scorekeeper
Should be a very telling week at the Holiday Tournaments this week with lots of movement in the AA Rankings. Heading into the Tourney's I thought it would be fun to have a quick look at one of the better rankings available, in Rankings, Strength of Conference, Strength of Schedule & Strength of Section.

The following is derrived from Mitch Hawker's rankings, available at http://www.ushsho.com/mnrank.htm , of which I am quickly becoming a big fan. Great work on these Mitch.

Ranking Generated 12/23/2012 12:45 CST
http://www.ushsho.com/mnrank.htm

RANK---TEAM-----------------------------------W . L . T . >4 . GmPerf Sched . Total . Last5 Cls/Sct
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. 1,Edina,MN,___________________________ 9 0 0, 1 3.0, 12.2, 15.15, 14.60 ,AA,2
. 2,Hill-Murray,MN,_______________________ 8 1 0, 2 2.1, 12.9, 15.04, 15.30 ,AA,4
. 3,Benilde-St Margarets,MN,_______________ 6 2 0, 1 2.3, 12.2, 14.47, 13.97 ,AA,6
. 4,Eagan,MN,__________________________ 6 2 0, 0 1.4, 12.3, 13.68, 14.44 ,AA,3
. 5,Minnetonka,MN,______________________ 7 1 1, 2 1.7, 11.7, 13.42, 13.05 ,AA,6
. 6,Blaine,MN,__________________________ 6 0 1, 2 1.6, 11.7, 13.32, 13.32 ,AA,5
. 7,Burnsville,MN,_______________________ 5 3 0, 0 1.1, 12.0, 13.08, 12.92 ,AA,2
. 8,Holy Family Catholic,MN,_______________ 5 3 0, 2 0.3, 12.5, 12.82, 13.15 ,AA,6
. 9,Wayzata,MN,________________________ 7 1 0, 0 1.2, 11.5, 12.71, 13.04 ,AA,6
10,Centennial,MN,______________________ 6 2 0, 1 1.0, 11.6, 12.62, 13.16 ,AA,5
11,Bloomington Jefferson,MN,_____________ 6 1 0, 0 1.4, 11.2, 12.59, 12.93 ,AA,2
12,Grand Rapids,MN,____________________ 6 2 1, 0 1.1, 11.1, 12.24, 12.59 ,AA,7
13,Prior Lake,MN,_______________________ 3 4 0, 0 0.3, 11.7, 12.03, 11.88 ,AA,2
14,Mounds View,MN,____________________ 4 1 2, 0 1.0, 11.0, 12.00, 12.56 ,AA,4
15,Lakeville South,MN,___________________ 3 4 0, 0 -0.6, 12.3, 11.71, 11.95 ,AA,1
16,Duluth East,MN,_____________________ 4 2 0, 1 0.6, 11.1, 11.70, 11.70 ,AA,7
17,Cretin-Derham Hall,MN,_______________ 4 4 0, 0 0.5, 11.1, 11.60, 11.57 ,AA,3
18,Eden Prairie,MN,_____________________ 4 4 1, 0 0.3, 11.2, 11.56, 11.77 ,AA,6
19,Elk River,MN,________________________ 5 4 0, 0 0.4, 11.1, 11.53, 10.73 ,AA,7
20,Eastview,MN,_______________________ 4 5 0, 0 0.3, 11.1, 11.47, 10.96 ,AA,3

Conferences Represented in Top 20 (Ranked by # of Top 20 Teams)
  • 1, South Suburban - 6 (Eagan #4, Burnsville #7, Jefferson #11, Prior Lake #13, Lakeville South #15, Eastview #20 )
    2, Lake Conference - 4 (Edina #1, Minnetonka #5, Wayzata #9, Eden Prairie #18 )
    3, N'West Suburban - 3 ( Blaine #6, Centennial #10, Elk River #19 )
    4, Independant - 2 ( Benilde #3, Duluth East #16 )
    5, Suburban East - 2 ( Mounds View #14, Cretin-Derham Hall #17 )
    6, Classic Suburban - 1 ( Hill Murray #2 )
    7, Wright County - 1 ( Holy Family #8 )
    8, Iron Range - 1 ( Grand Rapids #12 )
Top 10 Most Difficult Schedules Played through 12/23/2012
http://www.ushsho.com/mnrank.htm

RANK---TEAM-----------------------------------W . L . T . Sched

. 1,Hill-Murray,MN,_______________________ 8 1 0, 2 2.1, 12.9
. 2,Holy Family Catholic,MN,_______________ 5 3 0, 2 0.3, 12.5
. 3,Eagan,MN,__________________________ 6 2 0, 0 1.4, 12.3
. 4,Lakeville South,MN,___________________ 3 4 0, 0 -0.6, 12.3
. 5,Benilde-St Margarets,MN,_______________ 6 2 0, 1 2.3, 12.2
. 6,Edina,MN,___________________________ 9 0 0, 1 3.0, 12.2
. 7,Burnsville,MN,_______________________ 5 3 0, 0 1.1, 12.0
. 8,Minnetonka,MN,______________________ 7 1 1, 2 1.7, 11.7
. 9,Prior Lake,MN,_______________________ 3 4 0, 0 0.3, 11.7
. 10,Blaine,MN,__________________________ 6 0 1, 2 1.6, 11.7

Sections Represented in Top 20 (Ranked by # of Top 20 Teams)
  • 1.) 6AA - 5
    2.) 2AA - 4
    3.) 3AA - 3
    4.) 7AA - 3
    5.) 4AA - 2
    6.) 5AA - 2
    7.) 1AA - 1
    8.) 8AA - 0
Again, these rankings are CURRENT through 12/23/2012. Rankings do change as results pour in.

Seeded State Tournament Prediction

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:43 pm
by scorekeeper
Seeded State Tournament Prediction based on Mitch's Rankings (12/23/2012) without upsets. Tourney Seed in ( Bracket )

( 5 ) # 6 Blaine
( 4 ) # 4 Eagan -----------> ( 4 ) Eagan

( 8 ) #22 Moorhead
( 1 ) # 1 Edina -----------> ( 1 ) Edina ------------> ( 1 ) Edina -----> ( 1 ) Edina



( 2 ) # 2 Hill Murray ----> ( 2 ) Hill Murray ----> ( 2 ) Hill Murray
( 7 ) #15 Lakeville South

( 3 ) # 3 Benilde ---------> ( 3 ) Benilde
( 6 ) #12 Grand Rapids

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:53 pm
by karl(east)
Just to clarify something: the rankings you link to belong to Mitch Hawker.

These ones are Lee's: http://minnhock.com/pagestat.htm

They agree on many things in theory, and they will probably grow more and more alike as the season goes on. Both are admins on this forum, and have been ranking hockey teams since I was in elementary school. :P

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:56 pm
by scorekeeper
karl(east) wrote:Just to clarify something: the rankings you link to belong to Mitch Hawker.

These ones are Lee's: http://minnhock.com/pagestat.htm

They agree on many things in theory, and they will probably grow more and more alike as the season goes on. Both are admins on this forum, and have been ranking hockey teams since I was in elementary school. :P
Thanks for the clarification Karl. Good sites. Both of them. I'll gather Lee's numbers and see how they compare to Hawkers.

Lee Pagenkopf's rankings

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:23 pm
by scorekeeper
Heading into the Tourney's I thought it would be fun to compare Lee Pagenkopf's rankings to Mitch Hawkers (above).

The following is how Lee Pagenkopf's has the Top 20 AA teams ranked if you separate the AA teams from the A teams in Lee's rankings. His full rankings, along with all the bells and whistles are available at his website at http://minnhock.com/pagestat.htm.

RANK TEAM

. 1 BENILDE ST MARGARETS
. 2 EDINA
. 3 HILL MURRAY
. 4 EAGAN
. 5 BURNSVILLE
. 6 BLAINE
. 7 MINNETONKA
. 8 WAYZATA
. 9 BLOOM JEFFERSON
.10 CENTENNIAL
.11 DULUTH EAST
.12 HOLY FAMILY CATHOLIC
.13 PRIOR LAKE
.14 GRAND RAPIDS
.15 MOUNDS VIEW
.16 MOORHEAD
.17 EDEN PRAIRIE
.18 CLOQUET
.19 ELK RIVER
.20 LAKEVILLE SOUTH

Conferences Represented in Top 20
  • 1, South Suburban - 5 ( Eagan #4, Burnsville #5, Jefferson #9, Prior Lake #13, Lakeville South #20 )
    2, Lake Conference - 4 ( Edina #2, Minnetonka #7, Wayzata #8, Eden Prairie #17 )
    3, N'West Suburban - 3 ( Blaine #6, Centennial #10, Elk River #19 )
    4, Independant - 2 ( Benilde #1, Duluth East #11 )
    5, Classic Suburban - 1 ( Hill Murray #3 )
    6, Wright County - 1 ( Holy Family #12 )
    7, Iron Range - 1 ( Grand Rapids #14 )
    8, Suburban East - 1 ( Mounds View #15 )
    9, Mariucci - 1 ( Moorhead #16 )
    10, Lake Superior - 1 ( Cloquet #18 )
Sections Represented in Top 20 (Ranked by # of Top 20 Teams)
  • 1.) 6AA - 5
    2.) 2AA - 4
    3.) 7AA - 4
    4.) 4AA - 2
    5.) 5AA - 2
    6.) 3AA - 1
    7.) 1AA - 1
    8.) 8AA - 1
Seeded State Tournament Prediction based on Lee's Rankings (12/23/2012) without upsets. Tourney Seed in ( Bracket )

( 5 ) # 6 Blaine
( 4 ) # 4 Eagan -----------> ( 4 ) Eagan

( 8 ) #20 Lakeville South
( 1 ) # 1 Benilde ---------> ( 1 ) Benilde -----> ( 1 ) Benilde -----> ( 1 ) Benilde



( 2 ) # 2 Edina ------------> ( 2 ) Edina -------> ( 2 ) Edina
( 7 ) #16 Moorhead

( 3 ) # 3 Hill Murray -----> ( 3 ) Hill Murray
( 6 ) #11 Duluth East

Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:27 pm
by scorekeeper
I'll throw the Mnhockeyrankings.com ones up beside these two tommorrow. See how it compares.

Merry X-Mas to all and enjoy the great hockey this week!

MnHockeyRankings.com through 12/25/2012

Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2012 1:46 am
by scorekeeper
Last but not least, here are the MnHockeyRankings.com Class AA Ratings heading into the Holiday Tournaments and Top 10 toughest schedules.
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y= ... &v=702&g=3

Rank Team Record Rating

.1 Edina HS 9-0-0 99.42
.2 Benilde St Margarets HS 6-2-0 99.23
.3 Hill Murray HS 8-1-0 99.12
.4 Eagan HS 6-2-0 97.97
.5 Burnsville HS 5-3-0 97.67
.6 Minnetonka HS 7-1-1 97.48
.7 Blaine HS 6-0-1 97.37
.8 Wayzata HS 7-1-0 96.45
.9 Bloomington Jefferson HS 6-1-0 96.41
10 Holy Family Catholic HS 5-3-0 96.38
11 Prior Lake HS 3-4-0 96.17
12 Grand Rapids HS 6-2-1 96.10
13 Centennial HS 6-2-0 96.06
14 Eden Prairie HS 4-4-1 95.79
15 Mounds View HS 4-1-2 95.77
16 Duluth East HS 4-2-0 95.62
17 Elk River HS 5-4-0 95.49
18 Lakeville South HS 3-4-0 95.39
19 Moorhead HS 6-3-1 95.33
20 Cloquet HS 5-4-0 95.19

Top 10 Most Difficult Schedules up to and including 12/25/2012
  • .1 Lakeville South HS 96.25
    .2 Eagan HS 96.23
    .3 Hill Murray HS 95.99
    .4 Burnsville HS 95.92
    .5 Edina HS 95.76
    .6 Benilde St Margarets HS 95.73
    .7 Maple Grove HS 95.67
    .8 Prior Lake HS 95.46
    .9 Rosemount HS 95.37
    10 White Bear Lake HS 95.35