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Section 8AA
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 9:23 am
by TheHockeyDJ
With Brainerd's big upset win @ Moorhead on Thursday, what do you Northwesterners think this section is looking like right now? Where is the Shady Bucnh? I'm hoping Roseau or Brainerd come out of this section, no disrespect to Moorhead, but just want a change of pace down in St. Paul.
Posted: Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:07 pm
by SPUDNUT
Going strictly by winning percentages, 8AA right now, looks like this:
1 BRD
2 SCT
3 ROS
4 BBL
5 MHD
6 RLK
7 NLK
8 BUF
9 BJI
10 MON
really
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 2:05 am
by grandmeadowhockeyfan
Did you really just post a listing of teams by winning percentage. Does that even really mean anything. Percentage only means something if all the teams play 90% of their games against only their section. Also if the strength of schedule is similar. And those things hardly ever happen in high school hockey. Try ranking by something meaningful.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 4:00 am
by TheHockeyDJ
SPUDNUT wrote:Going strictly by winning percentages, 8AA right now, looks like this:
1 BRD
2 SCT
3 ROS
4 BBL
5 MHD
6 RLK
7 NLK
8 BUF
9 BJI
10 MON
KFAN button: "You've gotta be kidding me!" and "What the..?"
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 7:40 am
by joris016
Saw Roseau play at Warroad and against Bemidji this past weekend and they are pretty damn good. Very good top line and big defensemen. I think they will end up winning the section and will be a big threat at the excel.
goaltending
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:49 am
by hipcheck
When teams are even, it will come down to goaltending. The Section 8AA team that has the hot goalie come playoff time will produce the winner.
Spuds have generally had this factor come playoff time. Rams have a good one, but will need to prove he can win the game on his own. Should be interesting down the stretch!
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 8:50 am
by rainier
joris016 wrote:Saw Roseau play at Warroad and against Bemidji this past weekend and they are pretty damn good. Very good top line and big defensemen. I think they will end up winning the section and will be a big threat at the excel.
Winning the section? Yes.
Big threat at the Xcel? No.
Their top five skaters are excellent, but it falls off a cliff after that. I have a hard time seeing them staying with Hill, Edina, East, Blaine, and the other teams that will likely be at the tourney.
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 9:58 am
by joris016
Every year people say that section 8AA and the team that comes out of their likely doesn't stand a chance. Moorhead beat Eagan last year and almost beat State runner-up Hill-Murray. Roseau's size on defense will pose a threat to those teams. Fine, they might not make it to the championship but they will be tough to beat.
Re: really
Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2013 1:58 pm
by SPUDNUT
grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:Did you really just post a listing of teams by winning percentage. Does that even really mean anything. Percentage only means something if all the teams play 90% of their games against only their section. Also if the strength of schedule is similar. And those things hardly ever happen in high school hockey. Try ranking by something meaningful.
Uh, yes - I really posted a list strictly by winning percentage. That's what I said it was and that's what it was - too difficult to comprehend ? Schedule strength has nothing to do with that calculation - it is simply your overall won / lost record changed to a percentage. Your won / lost record is what it is, no matter whom / where / when you played.
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 12:51 pm
by elliott70
rainier wrote:joris016 wrote:Saw Roseau play at Warroad and against Bemidji this past weekend and they are pretty damn good. Very good top line and big defensemen. I think they will end up winning the section and will be a big threat at the excel.
Winning the section? Yes.
Big threat at the Xcel? No.
Their top five skaters are excellent, but it falls off a cliff after that. I have a hard time seeing them staying with Hill, Edina, East,
Blaine, and the other teams that will likely be at the tourney.
Roseua 3 Blaine 3
Win loss ranking
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:30 pm
by grandmeadowhockeyfan
Ranking teams by win loss means nothing.
You know that right? Might as well rank them
By net weight of all players or total gpa.
Re: Win loss ranking
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 1:33 pm
by TTpuckster
grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:Ranking teams by win loss means nothing.
You know that right? Might as well rank them
By net weight of all players or total gpa.
I think net weight of players is definitely a factor.
Re: Win loss ranking
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:04 pm
by SPUDNUT
grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:Ranking teams by win loss means nothing.
You know that right? Might as well rank them
By net weight of all players or total gpa.
Weight, huh ? BRILLIANT !
Where's Slapshooter when you need him ? Hey Elliott - wanna take care of my light work for me ?
Re: Win loss ranking
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:12 pm
by SPUDNUT
TTpuckster wrote:grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:Ranking teams by win loss means nothing.
You know that right? Might as well rank them
By net weight of all players or total gpa.
I think net weight of players is definitely a factor.
I think the weight of the net is a factor.
Re: Win loss ranking
Posted: Mon Jan 14, 2013 11:18 pm
by PuckU126
SPUDNUT wrote:TTpuckster wrote:grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:Ranking teams by win loss means nothing.
You know that right? Might as well rank them
By net weight of all players or total gpa.
I think net weight of players is definitely a factor.
I think the weight of the net is a factor.
After that last post, I think SPUDNUT is Slappy in disguise.

Re: Win loss ranking
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:31 am
by TTpuckster
SPUDNUT wrote:TTpuckster wrote:grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:Ranking teams by win loss means nothing.
You know that right? Might as well rank them
By net weight of all players or total gpa.
I think net weight of players is definitely a factor.
I think the weight of the net is a factor.
Or factor is the net or weight?

Re: Win loss ranking
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 7:32 am
by TTpuckster
PuckU126 wrote:SPUDNUT wrote:TTpuckster wrote:
I think net weight of players is definitely a factor.
I think the weight of the net is a factor.
After that last post, I think SPUDNUT is Slappy in disguise.

If he were slappy, there would be like 10.000 emoticons or more.
Re: Win loss ranking
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:19 am
by elliott70
SPUDNUT wrote:grandmeadowhockeyfan wrote:Ranking teams by win loss means nothing.
You know that right? Might as well rank them
By net weight of all players or total gpa.
Weight, huh ? BRILLIANT !
Where's Slapshooter when you need him ? Hey Elliott - wanna take care of my light work for me ?
Poor Bemidji would be #160 or so. Thosae poor kids are small.
I herard Crookston Cathedral in 1972 or so had some real heavy weights.
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 9:23 am
by elliott70
On a hockey note, Bemdiji has 2 pretty good Goalies.
Unfortunately, limited scoring.
And now 2 second line forwards are injured and out for the season in all likelyhood. A starting D (and good scorer) is out indefinetly with an illness.
A down year gone down farther.
Bantam A (AA?) team is playing very well so there is a future.
And as said here, good tending could steal a game or two for them as they have played well (clse games) with all section foes.
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 10:52 am
by SPUDNUT
elliott70 wrote:On a hockey note, Bemdiji has 2 pretty good Goalies.
Unfortunately, limited scoring.
And now 2 second line forwards are injured and out for the season in all likelyhood. A starting D (and good scorer) is out indefinetly with an illness.
A down year gone down farther.
Bantam A (AA?) team is playing very well so there is a future.
And as said here, good tending could steal a game or two for them as they have played well (clse games) with all section foes.
Ouch - sounds like your season is gonna be about as exciting as ours. Oh well, there's always next year (?)
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:08 pm
by State Champ 97
Elliott who got hurt? PM me if you prefer.
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:10 pm
by elliott70
State Champ 97 wrote:Elliott who got hurt? PM me if you prefer.
Sam Carlson, a junior - moved down with family from Alaska over the summer.
Jake Leitner, a sophomore.
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 12:38 pm
by State Champ 97
I knew about Leitner, hadn't heard that Carlson got hurt. Too bad, I thought he was playing pretty well.
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 2:03 pm
by elliott70
State Champ 97 wrote:I knew about Leitner, hadn't heard that Carlson got hurt. Too bad, I thought he was playing pretty well.
Tore up his shoulder - may need surgery.
Previously State Champs
Posted: Tue Jan 15, 2013 5:57 pm
by RoseauHockeyFan
joris016 wrote:Saw Roseau play at Warroad and against Bemidji this past weekend and they are pretty damn good. Very good top line and big defensemen. I think they will end up winning the section and will be a big threat at the excel.
Who knows. The core of this team (primarily Juniors) did win both the VFW Bantam A State Championship 2 years ago as well as the Pee Wee A State Championship 4 years ago.