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court decision

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 4:36 pm
by Whopper2
heard the mn high school league lost in court concerning transfer and returning players and the jury was still in the process of figuring damages

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2016 11:32 pm
by goldy313
I don't believe any of the similar suits in other states have been successful. Minnesota's rule was modeled on other states that had been challenged unsuccessfully in court. If what you say is true, high school sports in Minnesota will cease to exist.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 7:40 am
by Goldy Gopher
Talk to me in 5 years when the appeals process is over.

court decision

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:09 am
by Whopper2
in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand

Re: court decision

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:16 am
by Goldy Gopher
Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:25 am
by Jeffy95
How do we know any of this is even true? Is there a link somewhere?

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 11:27 am
by Goldy Gopher
We don't. But if it is true, the sky isn't falling and the matter is far from being resolved.

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 12:45 pm
by GoldenBear
Can someone provide cliff note version of what the issue is? No more than six sentences. Thanks GB

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 3:19 pm
by pioneers
Looks like 3 different suits were filed. Not sure which one is referenced in this thread

https://www.google.com/search?q=mshsl+l ... gws_rd=ssl.

court decision

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 4:31 pm
by Whopper2
you can find information at kstp who aired the story on the 24th. or you can call the high school league iam sure they would be happy to inform us on whats going on.

Re: court decision

Posted: Thu Oct 27, 2016 10:20 pm
by hockey_is_a_choice
Goldy Gopher wrote:
Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.

Re: court decision

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 8:09 am
by Jeffy95
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
The quote from the article was, "In those documents, a judge writes that there’s no reason that a transferring student should be excluded from participating in varsity athletics."

That sounds like a pretty broad ruling, and not specific to this case. Either way, it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Varsity Athletics is a privilege and can be taken away for numerous reasons. It's not like a kid's Civil Rights are being violated.

Re: court decision

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 10:54 am
by Goldy Gopher
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
Whopper2 wrote:in the mean time the ruling stands, no word on appeal,if they dont the flood gates will open for other law suits. in todays world of political correctness i think the decision will stand
If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.

Re: court decision

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:35 am
by Bluelightspecial-II
Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote: If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
Let's all not forget, little whopper was ineligible in Edina for junior year. Whopper2, you still living in Edina? Lol!!

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 11:59 am
by jg2112
Well geez guys. I looked at the KSTP "story," then went to the MN Court Records website. Typed in the High School league and the lawsuits popped up. The last one was filed 10/24 in Winona County. I take it this is the lawsuit referred to in this thread.

There's a motion on 11/10.

I don't see any "ruling" here. There is no "order," no "judgment," no jury, no damages, no nothing.

The reporter saying "a jury will weigh in on the amount of damages" can mean something as simple and as non-judgmental as the plaintiffs requested a jury trial.

Re: court decision

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:07 pm
by hockey_is_a_choice
Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote: If any of the lawyers involved are worth a damn there will be an injunction pending appeal, and I can say with 99% certainty that there will be an appeal.
With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
Umm, Goldy, I am a woman, or, as Donald Trump has characterized our breed, a "Nasty woman."

As far as the precedential value of this case, a district court judge in Minnesota cannot establish legal precedence. Only the Minnesota Court of Appeals and Minnesota Supreme Court can establish binding precedent.

Re: court decision

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2016 1:20 pm
by edgeless2
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote: With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
Umm, Goldy, I am a woman, or, as Donald Trump has characterized our breed, a "Nasty woman."

As far as the precedential value of this case, a district court judge in Minnesota cannot establish legal precedence. Only the Minnesota Court of Appeals and Minnesota Supreme Court can establish binding precedent.


Judge Judy 😜

Posted: Sat Oct 29, 2016 8:57 am
by elliott70
ttt

Re: court decision

Posted: Mon Oct 31, 2016 8:55 am
by redtundra
Finally, the voice of reason. Hockey is a Choice is the only one on here that knows that? MN needs some better civics classes... Zero precedence established here. The list of district court cases that go every which way is longer than the Don's National Championship draught is (will be). I actually doubt this will be appealed unless the powers that be WANT to establish precedence. If a few more of these go and have similar results, then you will get an appeal.
hockey_is_a_choice wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:
hockey_is_a_choice wrote: With all due respect, Goldy, I'm not sure which law school you went to or what bar exam you took, but there is no way the judge is going to issue an injunction in this case.

Relax folks. The facts of this case are unique. It is doubtful that this case will have a lot of precedential value to other transfer challenges.
I didn't know we had Judge Joe Brown as a member of the board.
Umm, Goldy, I am a woman, or, as Donald Trump has characterized our breed, a "Nasty woman."

As far as the precedential value of this case, a district court judge in Minnesota cannot establish legal precedence. Only the Minnesota Court of Appeals and Minnesota Supreme Court can establish binding precedent.