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Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:40 am
by ClassAGuy
I know there are Ram lovers on this forum
I have had several different people reach out over the last 2 weeks as season come to an end and we look forward to the annual Section Shuffle that happens every 2 years in April...
Hearing Lots of things like
Alexandria & Northfield being bumped up to Class AA
Two River getting back down into Class A
Denfeld going back to Class A
One thought that is picking up momentum and is juicy is Roseau staying in Class A?? Have had multiple people say this I dont believe it but any Rams Lovers on here want to chime in....
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:49 am
by elliott70
There are some new guard people in Roseau that would rather play Warroad / Est Grand Forks for a trip to state.
The old guard is 'we can beat Moorhead' so let's play with the big boys.
The problem is numbers - they are thin in bantams and even peewees, but they have some decent squirt players and three squirt teams.
We will see which group protests the loudest.
My guess is they will stay AA.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:36 pm
by BSUBeaver
Link to the MSHSL Classification Resource Page. It has the enrollment documents that they are using for the upcoming cycle.
https://www.mshsl.org/classification-an ... -resources
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:42 pm
by BSUBeaver
ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:40 am
I know there are Ram lovers on this forum
I have had several different people reach out over the last 2 weeks as season come to an end and we look forward to the annual Section Shuffle that happens every 2 years in April...
Hearing Lots of things like
Alexandria & Northfield being bumped up to Class AA
Two River getting back down into Class A
Denfeld going back to Class A
One thought that is picking up momentum and is juicy is Roseau staying in Class A?? Have had multiple people say this I dont believe it but any Rams Lovers on here want to chime in....
How is Two Rivers going down? They have 180 more students than Alexandria in the MSHSL document.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:44 pm
by xy
Was wondering that myself - Two Rivers has been increasing enrollment and is now over 1600 students in actual bodies before MSHSL does the free/reduced lunch reduction so I can't see how that would happen.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:54 pm
by SpreadOut!
ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:40 am
I know there are Ram lovers on this forum
I have had several different people reach out over the last 2 weeks as season come to an end and we look forward to the annual Section Shuffle that happens every 2 years in April...
Hearing Lots of things like
Alexandria & Northfield being bumped up to Class AA
Two River getting back down into Class A
Denfeld going back to Class A
One thought that is picking up momentum and is juicy is Roseau staying in Class A?? Have had multiple people say this I dont believe it but any Rams Lovers on here want to chime in....
Roseau moved to Class A at the youth level a couple years ago. It’s sad to say, but they absolutely cannot compete with Moorhead at the AA level anymore. Their last chance to make AA state tourney—barring a miracle—was last year, the 2023-24 season. It’s in the best interest of the program to move down to Class A now.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:01 pm
by ClassAGuy
xy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:44 pm
Was wondering that myself - Two Rivers has been increasing enrollment and is now over 1600 students in actual bodies before MSHSL does the free/reduced lunch reduction so I can't see how that would happen.
Again nothing is concrete just rumors I keep getting sent.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:05 pm
by BSUBeaver
SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 3:54 pm
ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 9:40 am
I know there are Ram lovers on this forum
I have had several different people reach out over the last 2 weeks as season come to an end and we look forward to the annual Section Shuffle that happens every 2 years in April...
Hearing Lots of things like
Alexandria & Northfield being bumped up to Class AA
Two River getting back down into Class A
Denfeld going back to Class A
One thought that is picking up momentum and is juicy is Roseau staying in Class A?? Have had multiple people say this I dont believe it but any Rams Lovers on here want to chime in....
Roseau moved to Class A at the youth level a couple years ago. It’s sad to say, but they absolutely cannot compete with Moorhead at the AA level anymore. Their last chance to make AA state tourney—barring a miracle—was last year, the 2023-24 season. It’s in the best interest of the program to move down to Class A now.
If Moorhead stays intact the next few cycles, no one is going to touch them in 8AA...... Who can compete with the population base they draw from in 8AA?
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:05 pm
by SpreadOut!
Since they let Minneapolis play Class A and I assume they will let the new St. Paul team (serving all the St. Paul public high schools) play Class A, I hope the MSHSL will allow similar large enrollment but demographically challenged first-ring suburban programs play Class A as well. Teams I have in mind include Armstrong-Cooper, Tartan-North St. Paul and maybe Osseo. Additionally, Irondale needs to pull the plug and co-op with Mounds View like they do at the youth level.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:31 pm
by cjmhockey19
From the data looks like Sartell and Hastings getting bumped down to Class A, Alexandria up to AA
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:52 pm
by ryguyMN
SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:05 pm
Since they let Minneapolis play Class A and I assume they will let the new St. Paul team (serving all the St. Paul public high schools) play Class A, I hope the MSHSL will allow similar large enrollment but demographically challenged first-ring suburban programs play Class A as well. Teams I have in mind include Armstrong-Cooper, Tartan-North St. Paul and maybe Osseo. Additionally, Irondale needs to pull the plug and co-op with Mounds View like they do at the youth level.
Armstrong-Cooper has kind of bounced around. I think their co-op started in AA, then they moved down to A, and now are back in AA the last few seasons. Certainly gave Edina a scare for a while in the section QF round. Had they pulled off that upset, that would have been their state title.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 05, 2025 5:02 pm
by SpreadOut!
ryguyMN wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:52 pm
SpreadOut! wrote: ↑Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:05 pm
Since they let Minneapolis play Class A and I assume they will let the new St. Paul team (serving all the St. Paul public high schools) play Class A, I hope the MSHSL will allow similar large enrollment but demographically challenged first-ring suburban programs play Class A as well. Teams I have in mind include Armstrong-Cooper, Tartan-North St. Paul and maybe Osseo. Additionally, Irondale needs to pull the plug and co-op with Mounds View like they do at the youth level.
Armstrong-Cooper has kind of bounced around. I think their co-op started in AA, then they moved down to A, and now are back in AA the last few seasons. Certainly gave Edina a scare for a while in the section QF round. Had they pulled off that upset, that would have been their state title.
Their Bantam A team is in the state tourney next weekend, but they will be demolished if they have to keep playing Class AA in high school in Section 6AA. And, after this crop of 9th graders, their program begins to bottom out.
Same with St. Louis Park, who doesn’t even field an A team at the Peewee level anymore (B1 is their top team, and they made state this year, too, largely on the back of one very strong player who I am sure, like all talented SLP youth players, will end up at Benilde).
The demographics of Minneapolis’s and St. Paul’s first ring suburbs are very comparable to the inner cities themselves now. Heck, the demos of Southwest High School in Minneapolis and Highland Park in St. Paul—where most of the city high school teams draw their players from—are significantly more hockey-friendly than almost all first ring suburban schools now.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:05 am
by ClassAGuy
Looking the MSHSL Data St Louis Park is the cutoff for AA everyone below them will be in A. I have been told Sartell is staying in AA because the enrollment will bump them back into looking at two years down the road.
Below is My Class A Section projections reminder they want to create eight section based on geography and they want to make as little change as possible as we enter the last 2 years of the overall 6 year cycle. For those wanting major change that happen in 2 years as every 6 years they start over by recreating the map
Projected BHS 2025-2026 and 2026-2027 Class A Sections
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona
2A (9 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Minneapolis
Mound Westonka
Orono
Providence Academy
3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington
4A (8 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
Southwest Christian/Richfield
5A (9 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral
6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar
7A (9 teams)
Cloquet
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor
8A (10 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Roseau
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:36 am
by BP
Blake is going Class A.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:05 am
by ClassAGuy
BP wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:36 am
Blake is going Class A.
If this is 100% be a nice addition and added them now to 2A above
Bring back most of their scoring will be a Top 10-15 team next year
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Thu Mar 06, 2025 9:57 am
by Green and White Fan
Unfortunately the good old days are over for us here in Roseau. A very distinct possibility of not even being able to field a JV team next year. It is time to make the move back to A, but we might still be locked in for a couple of years. Time to bring some excitement back to the rink and have games with EGF, TRF and Warroad actually mean something. Frankly, it is hard to get excited for STMA, Sartell of Buffalo coming to town. We are doing our kids a disservice by by staying in AA. Roseau hasn't been to state since 2014. Probably would have had a legitimate shot at going 5-7 in those years in A. Its not about the old generation's pride anymore, its what's best for the kids and their success. The high school teams breath life in or take life out of youth hockey. Time to let the kids have a chance at success. Heck it is going to be tough sledding to ever get out of 8A, but if we are going to lose, let it be in a barn close to home with a bunch of fans there. I was a staunch AA guy when it was still feasible, but times have changed. Just my 2 cents on the topic.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 3:23 pm
by Johnny Five
As an old Section 8er from the early to mid 90s, I would love to see Roseau back in Class A. I still follow the section, but IDGAF about them going to play against Sartell or Buffalo for example. As Green and White fan suggests, breathe some life into the program and community. Get Warroad, EGF and TRF for conference points and home/away close playoff games. It does nothing but make sense.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Tue Mar 11, 2025 9:58 pm
by ndirishfighting
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:53 am
by BSUBeaver
If Willmar is driving through St. Cloud or Sauk Rapids to get to their Section 6 opponents, they are putting extra miles on.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2025 7:20 pm
by East Side Pioneer Guy
Hockey writer Jess Meyers is reporting that Roseau will be in AA. I trust the sources in Roseau that he trusts.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 4:27 pm
by Green and White Fan
Right or wrong Roseau is stuck in AA for 2 more years.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:29 pm
by Puckguy19
BSUBeaver wrote: ↑Wed Mar 12, 2025 8:53 am
If Willmar is driving through St. Cloud or Sauk Rapids to get to their Section 6 opponents, they are putting extra miles on.
Willmar might be a better fit in 3A.
Re: Roseau Staying In Class A Next Year?
Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2025 8:43 pm
by Puckguy19
ClassAGuy wrote: ↑Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:05 am
Looking the MSHSL Data St Louis Park is the cutoff for AA everyone below them will be in A. I have been told Sartell is staying in AA because the enrollment will bump them back into looking at two years down the road.
Below is My Class A Section projections reminder they want to create eight section based on geography and they want to make as little change as possible as we enter the last 2 years of the overall 6 year cycle. For those wanting major change that happen in 2 years as every 6 years they start over by recreating the map
Projected BHS 2025-2026 and 2026-2027 Class A Sections
1A (10 Teams)
Albert Lea
Austin
Dodge County
Faribault
La Crescent
Northfield
Red Wing
Rochester Lourdes
Waseca
Winona
2A (9 teams)
Blake
Breck
Delano
Hutchinson
Litchfield Dassel Cokato
Minneapolis
Mound Westonka
Orono
Providence Academy
3A (10 teams)
Fairmont
Luverne
Mankato East
Mankato West
Marshall
Minnesota River
New Ulm
Redwood Valley
Windom
Worthington
4A (8 teams)
Chisago Lakes
Hastings
Mahtomedi
Simley
South St Paul
St Paul Academy
St Paul Highland Park
Southwest Christian/Richfield
5A (9 teams)
Becker Big Lake
Little Falls
Monticello
Mora
Princeton
Pine City
River Lakes
Sauk Rapids
St Cloud Cathedral
6A (8 teams)
Breckenridge Wahpeton
Detroit Lakes
Fergus Falls
Morris Benson
Northern Lakes
Prairie Centre
Wadena Deer Creek
Willmar
7A (9 teams)
Cloquet
Ely
Greenway
Hermantown
Hibbing
International Falls
North Shore
Moose Lake
Proctor
8A (10 teams)
Bagley Fosston
Crookston
East Grand Forks
Kittson County Central
Lake of the Woods
Park Rapids
Roseau
Red Lake Falls
Thief River Falls
Warroad
Good list; might consider Park Rapids in 6A. 45 minutes or less to Detroit Lakes and Wadena. More natural rivalries than in 8A.
