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Minnetonka with the 3 Mr Hockey Candidates
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:24 am
by HockE7
What is Wyman, Hillen, and.... (I cant remember the other finalist) would have stayed at Minnetonka in stead of going to a public school??? They made a great run this year and with these three they possibly could have been in "The Show" right now! I just want to know what everyone thinks about this and who the other player is??? <p></p><i></i>
Re: Minnetonka with the 3 Mr Hockey Candidates
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:27 am
by Zamman
Hillen was Hopkins... <p></p><i></i>
Re: Minnetonka with the 3 Mr Hockey Candidates
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 11:39 am
by hshockeyfan
the 3 mr.hockey candidates from minnetonka are wyman, battani, and friesen <p></p><i></i>
Not Minnetonka
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 12:35 pm
by cliff77
<br>Battani, although he is a very good hockey player, he is not one of the Mr. Hockey finalists. Hillen lives in Minnetonka, but played all of his youth hockey at Hopkins with another Mr. Hockey finalist, Rob Page. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Not Minnetonka
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 2:58 pm
by blueliner10
Who the hell cares Mr. hockey is so political anyway! Up north here we don't even care about the award any more for if one is not from the metro area they are SOL <p></p><i></i>
Re: Not Minnetonka
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:09 pm
by rizzy7TRFProwlers
Well put blueliner. When was the last time someone from up north won the Mr. Hockey award? <p></p><i></i>
Re: Not Minnetonka
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:41 pm
by IJasonI
Wasn't Engasser from Minnetonka? <p></p><i></i>
Why are 3 players from one team chosen?
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 5:58 pm
by bighorn9
Politics that's why. I have heard that as many as 7 Blake players will play division 1. It will be interesting to follow there college careers. Also remember hockey is division1 in the Ivy League but no athletic scholarships are permitted. There is a good chance that with means testing these kids parents will be footing the bill. Don't cry too hard, however they almost all can afford it. <p></p><i></i>
Not Political
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 6:37 pm
by cliff77
The last northern kid to win Mr. Hockey was Gino Guyer, 3 years ago. Since then it was Marty Sertich and Nate Dey last year.<br><br>I don't agree that it is a highly political election. Why else would 7 of this year's candidates be from private schools then? The hockey establishment in this state is clearly pro-public schools. I read evidence of this on this board every day and experience this every time I converse with hockey people around the state.<br><br>This year's Mr. Hockey has already been chosen. The ten finalists are the top ten vote getters. They were chosen by NHL scouts and D1 coaches around the state of Minnesota a few weeks ago. Maybe Blake has 3 candidates because they have 3 of the top high school NHL draft picks in the state.<br><br>If it was a highly political process, I doubt Nate Dey would have won the award last year. There were many others who had higher political profiles last year.<br><br>By the way, I am from the metro area and believe Alex Gologoski will win this year. <p></p><i></i>
Minnetonka "What Might Have Been"
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 7:44 pm
by IWASTHERE
The following Private school kids all played youth hockey in Minnetonka:<br><br>BSM: Friesen, Battani, Lappen & Morgan<br>Blake: Wyman & Engasser<br>Breck: Simcox<br><br>Not a bad line up...<br><br>1st Line: Drew Akins (C), Will Engasser & Alex Simcox<br>2nd Line: Chris Lappen (C), JT Wyman & Sam Bickel<br>3rd Line: Jesse Junkermeier (C), Stu Bickel & Mike Schutt<br><br>Defensive Pairs:<br>1st Line: Blake Friesen & Kevin Eidsmo<br>2nd Line: Ian Wolff & Greg Battani<br>3rd Line: Ryan Hampson & Ryan Schwartz<br><br>Goalie: Tyler Richmond & Brian Morgan<br><br> <p></p><i></i>
mtka lineup
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 8:19 pm
by IJasonI
I'd say thats among the best lineups in the state. <p></p><i></i>
In a perfect world
Posted: Sat Mar 06, 2004 10:48 pm
by IWASTHERE
Imagine if the world were perfect and players didn't leave their local high schools...<br>Minnetonka would have been without a doubt the best AA team in the state. With a line up like the one I listed in my last comment, who could disagree.<br>Who knows maybe Sean Cox wouldn't have quit hockey if he wouldn't have switched to BSM from Minnetonka. He might have been a 2nd or 3rd line defender.<br><br>Just a thought. <p></p><i></i>
Why do they all leave?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2004 7:57 am
by shutout
Why do all the top players leave Minnetonka? <br><br> I did get a nice laugh when i heard that Brian Curler quit this year because he was not getting enough playing time. His whiny mom took him out of the Jefferson program for the same reason, I guess it is obvious what the problem is in that situation. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Why do they all leave?
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:17 am
by name not necessary
though many of these good players have left minnetonka, minnetonka is not the only place great players have switched schools from. Edina and hopkins have also had some great players leave...just to mention others in the same conference as them <p></p><i></i>
why they leave...
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:28 am
by MNPuckster27
think about the towns mentioned.... those towns all consist of a lot of people with MONEY! So they are the ones that can afford to send their kids to private schools. <p></p><i></i>
minnetonka
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 10:36 am
by skipper
other schools such as edina and hopkins did have kids leave, but not nearly the numbers or quality that tonka had. the reason all these kids left was.....COACHING!!!!! tonka has had horrible coaching at the varsity level for more than 10 years. trent graham (standout forward on ER) left tonka after bantams because of minnetonka's horrible coaching. <p></p><i></i>
blake
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 12:09 pm
by mnhshock29
One problem, I don't think Wyman and Engasser "left" Minnetonka. They both played youth hockey there, but from what I know, have been at Blake for quite some time. Wyman, for instance, is a third-generation Blake player. <p></p><i></i>
Graham
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 2:17 pm
by shutout
Skipper:<br><br>I would not use Beaver Graham as an example, it would probably be easier to list the programs that he has NOT played in. Think about it the parents name their kids after animals! <p></p><i></i>
Skipper...
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 5:48 pm
by name not necessary
yes, kids have left because of coaching but take a look: <br><br>Hopkins lost: <br>Rob Page (sr Blake)<br>Jack Hillen (sr AHA)<br>Luke Edwall (sr SLP)<br>Ben Tesler (sr SLP)<br> adding two mr hockey candidate Dmen, a stellar goalie, and a grinder forward will significantly help a team. Maybe that won't change a team as much as Minnetonka would, but lets see about Edina. Key players they have lost:<br><br>Nate Hagemo (would be jr, AHA and then NTDP)<br>Justin Milo (jr, Shattuck)<br>Trent Palm (so, Shattuck)<br>David Ramsey (sr, Blake)<br>Jon Patera (jr, Blake)<br>Jack Baer (so, STA)<br>Matt Andres (so, Benilde)<br> -4 or 5 other players that have switched from edina play for other varsity programs, though they wuold not have as much of an impact and wuold battle for a 3rd or 4th line spot<br><br> Minnetonka's team would change significantly, but if you know hockey and know who these players are, you will see that Edina's team would change just as much. Each of those 7 players, and possibly a couple of the others, would be varsity players and add to the team. 7 or 8 of Edina's players this year would find their spots being taken over by far superior players...just a thought for ya Skip <p></p><i></i>
ylitalo
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 6:37 pm
by IJasonI
name not necessary,<br>I believe you forgot Glen Ylitalo, who is at Orono now. <p></p><i></i>
shutout
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 7:00 pm
by skipper
i agree the graham comment is a little far fetched and his dad is totally insane. but the reason they left minnetonka was definatly because of the horrific coaching. it tonka would have had as good coaching as say a jefferson then the graham boys may have never left. <p></p><i></i>
Re: Ylitalo
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:09 pm
by name not necessary
Yes, he was at Edina his sophomore year. He was not on the list because he grew up playing for Orono, played one year for Edina, and then switched back to Orono. He really should not be considered a kid who grew up playing for Edina who left, like the others. With or without him, Edina has still lost a ton, not to say other places haven't. <p></p><i></i>
Private School
Posted: Mon Mar 08, 2004 9:25 pm
by Rammer69
What about kids who grew up playing for a city team but attended a private school the whole way through, or transfered in early grades like 5th or something, you can't really count those kids <p></p><i></i>
Tim Hanus
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 1:11 am
by Froomcat
I know he hasn't been at the helm a super long time, but are people saying that he is a problem or are we talking Bantam A coaches, etc.<br><br>He was a hell of a player in the 80's at Tonka <p></p><i></i>
Re: Tim Hanus
Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2004 8:52 am
by hockeyplayer04
Who ever listed those people from edina, hagemo would be first line defense, since he was first line defense at Holy when he was a freshman comeon battle for 3rd or 4th? he might of been a sophmore at holy but still. <p></p><i></i>