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Barry Bonds and the Twins
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:05 am
by George Blanda
With rumors swirling about the possibility of Bonds coming to Minnesota, what do you all think?
I personally think it's a long shot with our obvious lack of spending, but I wouldn't mind seeing it...any thoughts?
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:12 am
by Zamboni Guy
What rumors have been swirling about Bonds coming to Minnesota? I haven't heard anything, and I'm pretty in tune with the Hot Stove talks. From all accounts I've heard it seems like Bonds will resign with the Giants for one more year.
...sorry.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:29 am
by George Blanda
It was reported on ESPN.com two nights ago. Must have ESPN insider to view this.
From everything I've heard, the Giants want to sign Bonds, but the two sides are a LONG way away from an agreement.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 11:47 am
by State Champ 97
I am not an ESPN insider but I would guess is we are one of the teams in need of a LF/DH type of player. No way do the Twins spend the money for one year with Bonds.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:15 pm
by packerboy
It would be a real culture shock for both Bonds and the Twins.
Even if something could be worked out financially, I dont think its a good mix.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:20 pm
by Neutron 14
BALCO is putting up a midwest office?
Re: ...sorry.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:27 pm
by boblee
George Blanda wrote:It was reported on ESPN.com two nights ago. Must have ESPN insider to view this.
From everything I've heard, the Giants want to sign Bonds, but the two sides are a LONG way away from an agreement.
You're full of crap man.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:08 pm
by Neutron 14
That story was reported in the Pioneer Press this morning boblee.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:01 pm
by State Champ 97
It also said people were laughing at the thought or speculation of it.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:13 pm
by EREmpireStrikesBack
Easy boblee, he is right.
WHO
Barry Bonds
Giants
INTERESTED
Twins?
Athletics?
Giants
THE SKINNY
San Francisco or bust?
Dec 5 - Don't be surprised if Barry Bonds returns to the Giants, but the two sides are currently far apart in negotiations. Bonds' agent, Jeff Borris, is playing hardball and asked the Giants for an $18 million, one-year contract plus a vesting option that could bring a similar salary in 2008, the San Francisco Chronicle reports.
Clearly, the Giants don't want to pay that much. Nevertheless, GM Brian Sabean insists they have genuine interest in the left fielder and that proposals and counterproposals have been exchanged.
"Does it make baseball sense?" asked Sabean. "Yes."
yes, boblee
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:35 pm
by George Blanda
boblee, never doubt my cred. I was once an all-star on this board.
Bonds' needs...
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 2:37 pm
by George Blanda
I think Bonds needs to play in a place like Minnesota. After all, he is staying around baseball for one reason. And in MN, he can play DH/LF in a controlled environment year-round.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:12 pm
by Zamboni Guy
Bonds would be intriguing for Minnesota, in a strictly baseball sense, since they are always looking for more power and being able to DH would be great for Bonds. However, Bonds is coming off of knee problems, and turf (even field turf) isn't exactly the best option for running around in LF on a bad leg. Plus, how many singles do you think he would get banging the ball off of the baggie in left? The bottom line is, there is no way that Pohlad will pay $18 mil for one year of his services. Didn't the Twins try this aging player thing last year? (Tony Batista and Ruben Sierra) The Twins will do what they do best and stick with their plan of building a team through their farm system.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:35 pm
by Neutron 14
Its not like

doesn't have the money. But his kids can't spend it till he's

??
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:57 pm
by George Blanda
Zamboni Guy wrote:Bonds would be intriguing for Minnesota, in a strictly baseball sense, since they are always looking for more power and being able to DH would be great for Bonds. However, Bonds is coming off of knee problems, and turf (even field turf) isn't exactly the best option for running around in LF on a bad leg. Plus, how many singles do you think he would get banging the ball off of the baggie in left? The bottom line is, there is no way that Pohlad will pay $18 mil for one year of his services. Didn't the Twins try this aging player thing last year? (Tony Batista and Ruben Sierra) The Twins will do what they do best and stick with their plan of building a team through their farm system.
A. He'll hit zero singles off the baggie in left. Maybe one or two off the baggie in right.
B. How many career home runs do Tony Batista and Ruben Sierra have combined? That would be 515. How about Barry Bonds? That would be 734.
Comparing Bonds to Batista and Sierra is the dumbest thing I've ever heard.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:59 pm
by EREmpireStrikesBack
He'd do great here. The baggie is vvvvvvvvery short. Morneau doesn't even hit that many off of it. Just to have a #3 or 4 hitter that gets on base via walks, singles or even homeruns would be huge. Just the threat would be huge. The AL Central doesn't have that many LH relief pitchers so going L, L, L in the order wouldn't be that bad. I think it would be good and I think we could get him for around 15 million for the year or two.
Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 5:59 pm
by nbsupremexxx
Twins will never get him due to expenses and a demanding salary. He'll only be good for another 2 to 3 years. He's almost 100. The opertunity cost exceeds the demand. Enough said.
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:23 am
by Zamboni Guy
Zamboni Guy wrote:Plus, how many singles do you think he would get banging the ball off of the baggie in left?
My bad, had a brain fart. I meant the baggie in right, since he is a left handed pull hitter who isn't the fleetest of foot anymore.
nothing wrong with a single...
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 2:32 pm
by George Blanda
Nothing wrong with a single last I checked and getting two on in front of morneau wouldn't hurt...
Nothing wrong with a single....
Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:16 pm
by Zamboni Guy
There is nothing wrong with a single, and getting runner on in front of MVP33 would only increase the Twins run production. Also, Bonds would be a better DH option than Rondell White, but I really don't see it happening. The fact of the matter is that Pohlad is not going to pay that much for an aging superstar for 1 or 2 years and Bonds has stated that he would like to play LF next season, not DH. As exciting as it would be to see Bonds tear the roof off of the Metrodome...I don't see it happening. Just my opinion though.

Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:49 pm
by EREmpireStrikesBack
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:36 am
by State Champ 97
Well that should end the Bonds stuff. I did hear Ryan wants to sign Rondell White to play LF and Kubel to DH. Thoughts?
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 9:38 am
by boblee
State Champ 97 wrote:Well that should end the Bonds stuff. I did hear Ryan wants to sign Rondell White to play LF and Kubel to DH. Thoughts?
Kubel is awful.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 10:05 am
by packerboy
I agree with boblee. Kubel isnt going to be what they want him to be.
I like sticking with White. He is affordable and proven, he bounced back in the second half.
Kubel has has 2 good weeks in the majors.
Posted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 11:36 am
by State Champ 97
Kubel has has 2 good weeks in the majors.
That's more than good knees he has.