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Will be posted here for comparison to AP/LPH, Metro/Outstate Paper, & KRACH...

A Rankings: January 3, 2007

1 Blake (12-4-0) 80.8
2 Crookston (13-0-1) 75.1
T-3 Breck (16-0-0) 71.9
T-3 Alexandria (12-1-0) 71.9
5 Farmington (9-4-1) 68.2
6 South St. Paul (10-5-0) 68.1
7 Warroad (11-4-1) 66.7
8 Hibbing (7-9-1) 66.3
9 Simley (12-3-0) 63.9
10 Austin (12-2-0) 63.7
11 Shakopee (7-5-3) 63.3
12 New Prague (6-6-2) 58.6
13 New Ulm (9-3-0) 56.6
14 Richfield (11-5-0) 55.2
15 Roseau (7-6-0) 53.3
16 Silver Bay (6-9-0) 50.4
17 Mahtomedi (4-8-1) 46.5
18 St. Paul United (7-8-0) 45.6
19 Marshall (8-6-0) 45.2
20 Totino-Grace (4-8-1) 45.1
21 Mound Westonka (6-6-0) 44.9
22 Faribault (8-4-1) 43.3
23 Albert Lea (7-6-1) 42.8
T-24 Mankato West (8-7-0) 41.3
T-24 Orono (7-7-0) 41.3
26 Detroit Lakes (6-3-2) 39.6
27 Northfield (6-8-0) 37.9
28 Thief River Falls (3-9-0) 37.1
29 Fergus Falls (4-9-1) 35.7
30 East Grand Forks (5-9-1) 33.3
31 Moose Lake Area (5-9-1) 33.2
32 St. Louis Park (1-12-1) 32.2
33 International Falls (8-6-0) 31.9
34 St. Paul Saints (5-9-0) 31.8
35 Luverne (7-5-0) 29.9
T-36 Eveleth-Gilbert (8-8-0) 29.8
T-36 Red Wing (4-9-0) 29.8
38 Willmar (4-9-0) 29.3
39 Fairmont (7-5-0) 28.2
40 BEST/Ely (1-5-1) 26.7
41 Lake of the Woods (7-7-0) 26.6
42 Hutchinson (3-11-0) 25.9
43 Morris Area/Benson/Minnewaska Area (3-7-2) 21.5
44 Little Falls (2-10-0) 20.4
45 Minnehaha Academy (2-13-0) 20.3
46 Mankato East (3-12-1) 20.2
47 L-H/St. Peter/Le Center (3-9-0) 19.7
48 Princeton (2-10-0) 19.0
49 Waseca (2-11-0) 18.5
50 Litchfield/D-C (1-11-1) 18.1
51 LP-GE/W-DC (7-5-1) 16.7
52 Park Rapids/Menahga/Nevis (0-10-0) 15.8
53 Windom Area (1-9-1) 15.5
54 Redwood Valley (0-7-0) 8.7
55 Worthington (2-9-1) 8.0

AA Rankings: January 3, 2007

1 Edina (14-0-2) 85.7
2 Benilde-St. Margaret's (12-2-0) 81.0
3 Eden Prairie (12-0-0) 80.7
4 Wayzata (9-2-3) 78.1
5 Bemidji (12-2-1) 74.9
6 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton (10-2-2) 73.9
7 Holy Angels Academy (13-2-0) 72.0
8 Roseville (10-3-2) 68.8
9 Stillwater Area (9-5-2) 65.5
10 Forest Lake (12-3-1) 65.1
11 Irondale (13-2-0) 64.9
12 Burnsville (9-5-1) 63.2
13 Coon Rapids (11-3-1) 62.7
14 Centennial (10-4-0) 62.5
15 Moorhead (12-3-0) 60.8
16 Grand Rapids/Greenway (9-7-0) 60.6
17 Rochester Mayo (10-5-0) 56.8
18 Eagan (11-3-1) 56.5
19 Robbinsdale Armstrong (9-4-2) 55.8
20 Blaine (10-5-0) 55.0
21 Hopkins (8-8-1) 54.8
22 Hill-Murray (7-5-2) 54.7
23 Prior Lake (9-3-1) 53.9
24 Duluth East/Central/Denfeld (11-4-2) 52.8
25 Hastings (8-4-2) 52.6
26 Elk River (7-8-0) 51.1
T-27 St. Cloud Tech (11-4-0) 50.2
T-27 Cretin-Derham Hall (8-6-1) 50.2
29 North Metro (7-4-1) 49.5
30 Apple Valley (10-6-1) 48.2
31 Cambridge-Isanti (9-5-0) 47.6
32 Henry Sibley (5-8-1) 46.5
T-33 Proctor/Herm./Dul. Marshall (9-7-0) 46.1
T-33 Maple Grove (4-9-2) 46.1
T-33 Spring Lake Park (9-5-1) 46.1
36 White Bear Lake (5-10-1) 43.8
37 Chisago Lakes Area (6-9-0) 43.3
38 Mounds View (7-8-0) 43.2
39 Bloomington Jefferson (5-8-1) 42.6
40 Lakeville North (8-8-0) 42.2
41 Eastview (7-9-1) 42.0
42 Lakeville South (6-9-1) 41.1
43 Minnetonka (6-8-1) 41.0
44 Woodbury (6-10-0) 40.3
T-45 Anoka (6-7-1) 40.0
T-45 North St. Paul (7-9-0) 40.0
47 Champlin Park (4-8-0) 39.5
48 North Wright County (7-3-1) 37.1
49 Brainerd (7-6-0) 36.9
50 Winona (6-4-0) 36.5
51 Minneapolis (4-9-1) 35.9
52 St. Cloud (7-7-0) 35.5
53 River Lakes (6-6-0) 35.3
54 Andover (4-10-1) 35.1
55 Buffalo (5-9-0) 34.7
56 Park of Cottage Grove (3-12-0) 33.7
57 Chaska (4-9-0) 33.2
T-58 St. Paul Blades (5-9-0) 33.0
T-58 St. Francis (5-9-0) 33.0
60 Rosemount (4-10-2) 30.9
61 Robbinsdale Cooper (5-9-1) 29.2
62 Tartan (5-11-0) 27.9
63 Owatonna (4-7-1) 27.8
64 Dodge County (9-7-0) 26.5
65 Rogers/Zimmerman (4-12-0) 26.4
66 Bloomington Kennedy (4-11-1) 23.5
67 Rochester John Marshall (3-7-1) 23.2
68 Sartell/Sauk Rapids (3-13-0) 20.0
69 Rochester Century (1-12-1) 13.2

One thing about QRF, they are a lot easier to cut and paste, eh GHS

xk1 wrote:One thing about QRF, they are a lot easier to cut and paste, eh GHS

Yes indeed, but as a result have little info. to back-up their "ranking" - lots of hand-waiving and QED sort of approach...

They know their market...

My issue with QRF is the weighting of classes. I can go along with some sort of weighting but not based on class, especially since at least 3 of their top 10 teams are in class A had they not opted up.

xk1 wrote:They know their market...

Agreed

xk1 wrote:My issue with QRF is the weighting of classes. I can go along with some sort of weighting but not based on class, especially since at least 3 of their top 10 teams are in class A had they not opted up.

Agreed - here's the overall - when you look at it this way, I don't know that it's really any "better" than KRACh or voting, but then again I'm biased...:

RANK Class Rank/Team Name QRF
1 1 Edina (14-0-2 85.7
2 2 Benilde-St. Margaret's (12-2-0 81
3 1 Blake (12-4-0 80.8
4 3 Eden Prairie (12-0-0 80.7
5 4 Wayzata (9-2-3 78.1
6 2 Crookston (13-0-1 75.1
7 5 Bemidji (12-2-1 74.9
8 6 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton (10-2-2 73.9
9 7 Holy Angels Academy (13-2-0 72
10 T-3 Breck (16-0-0 71.9
11 T-3 Alexandria (12-1-0 71.9
12 8 Roseville (10-3-2 68.8
13 5 Farmington (9-4-1 68.2
14 6 South St. Paul (10-5-0 68.1
15 7 Warroad (11-4-1 66.7
16 8 Hibbing (7-9-1 66.3
17 9 Stillwater Area (9-5-2 65.5
18 10 Forest Lake (12-3-1 65.1
19 11 Irondale (13-2-0 64.9
20 9 Simley (12-3-0 63.9
21 10 Austin (12-2-0 63.7
22 11 Shakopee (7-5-3 63.3
23 12 Burnsville (9-5-1 63.2
24 13 Coon Rapids (11-3-1 62.7
25 14 Centennial (10-4-0 62.5
26 15 Moorhead (12-3-0 60.8
27 16 Grand Rapids/Greenway (9-7-0 60.6
28 12 New Prague (6-6-2 58.6
29 17 Rochester Mayo (10-5-0 56.8
30 13 New Ulm (9-3-0 56.6
31 18 Eagan (11-3-1 56.5
32 19 Robbinsdale Armstrong (9-4-2 55.8
33 14 Richfield (11-5-0 55.2
34 20 Blaine (10-5-0 55
35 21 Hopkins (8-8-1 54.8
36 22 Hill-Murray (7-5-2 54.7
37 23 Prior Lake (9-3-1 53.9
38 15 Roseau (7-6-0 53.3
39 24 Duluth East/Central/Denfeld (11-4-2 52.8
40 25 Hastings (8-4-2 52.6
41 26 Elk River (7-8-0 51.1
42 16 Silver Bay (6-9-0 50.4
43 T-27 St. Cloud Tech (11-4-0 50.2
44 T-27 Cretin-Derham Hall (8-6-1 50.2
45 29 North Metro (7-4-1 49.5
46 30 Apple Valley (10-6-1 48.2
47 31 Cambridge-Isanti (9-5-0 47.6
48 32 Henry Sibley (5-8-1 46.5
49 17 Mahtomedi (4-8-1 46.5
50 T-33 Proctor/Herm./Dul. Marshall (9-7-0 46.1
51 T-33 Maple Grove (4-9-2 46.1
52 T-33 Spring Lake Park (9-5-1 46.1
53 18 St. Paul United (7-8-0 45.6
54 19 Marshall (8-6-0 45.2
55 20 Totino-Grace (4-8-1 45.1
56 21 Mound Westonka (6-6-0 44.9
57 36 White Bear Lake (5-10-1 43.8
58 37 Chisago Lakes Area (6-9-0 43.3
59 22 Faribault (8-4-1 43.3
60 38 Mounds View (7-8-0 43.2
61 23 Albert Lea (7-6-1 42.8
62 39 Bloomington Jefferson (5-8-1 42.6
63 40 Lakeville North (8-8-0 42.2
64 41 Eastview (7-9-1 42
65 T-24 Mankato West (8-7-0 41.3
66 T-24 Orono (7-7-0 41.3
67 42 Lakeville South (6-9-1 41.1
68 43 Minnetonka (6-8-1 41
69 44 Woodbury (6-10-0 40.3
70 T-45 Anoka (6-7-1 40
71 T-45 North St. Paul (7-9-0 40
72 26 Detroit Lakes (6-3-2 39.6
73 47 Champlin Park (4-8-0 39.5
74 27 Northfield (6-8-0 37.9
75 48 North Wright County (7-3-1 37.1
76 28 Thief River Falls (3-9-0 37.1
77 49 Brainerd (7-6-0 36.9
78 50 Winona (6-4-0 36.5
79 51 Minneapolis (4-9-1 35.9
80 29 Fergus Falls (4-9-1 35.7
81 52 St. Cloud (7-7-0 35.5
82 53 River Lakes (6-6-0 35.3
83 54 Andover (4-10-1 35.1
84 55 Buffalo (5-9-0 34.7
85 56 Park of Cottage Grove (3-12-0 33.7
86 30 East Grand Forks (5-9-1 33.3
87 57 Chaska (4-9-0 33.2
88 31 Moose Lake Area (5-9-1 33.2
89 T-58 St. Paul Blades (5-9-0 33
90 T-58 St. Francis (5-9-0 33
91 32 St. Louis Park (1-12-1 32.2
92 33 International Falls (8-6-0 31.9
93 34 St. Paul Saints (5-9-0 31.8
94 60 Rosemount (4-10-2 30.9
95 35 Luverne (7-5-0 29.9
96 T-36 Eveleth-Gilbert (8-8-0 29.8
97 T-36 Red Wing (4-9-0 29.8
98 38 Willmar (4-9-0 29.3
99 61 Robbinsdale Cooper (5-9-1 29.2
100 39 Fairmont (7-5-0 28.2
101 62 Tartan (5-11-0 27.9
102 63 Owatonna (4-7-1 27.8
103 40 BEST/Ely (1-5-1 26.7
104 41 Lake of the Woods (7-7-0 26.6
105 64 Dodge County (9-7-0 26.5
106 65 Rogers/Zimmerman (4-12-0 26.4
107 42 Hutchinson (3-11-0 25.9
108 66 Bloomington Kennedy (4-11-1 23.5
109 67 Rochester John Marshall (3-7-1 23.2
110 43 Morris Area/Benson/Minnewaska Area (3-7-2 21.5
111 44 Little Falls (2-10-0 20.4
112 45 Minnehaha Academy (2-13-0 20.3
113 46 Mankato East (3-12-1 20.2
114 68 Sartell/Sauk Rapids (3-13-0 20
115 47 L-H/St. Peter/Le Center (3-9-0 19.7
116 48 Princeton (2-10-0 19
117 49 Waseca (2-11-0 18.5
118 50 Litchfield/D-C (1-11-1 18.1
119 51 LP-GE/W-DC (7-5-1 16.7
120 52 Park Rapids/Menahga/Nevis (0-10-0 15.8
121 53 Windom Area (1-9-1 15.5
122 69 Rochester Century (1-12-1 13.2
123 54 Redwood Valley (0-7-0 8.7
124 55 Worthington (2-9-1 8

QRF rankings arent worth the paper they are written on. Starting with EP being ranked 4th. Any poll that has them ranked less than #1 is wrong. To have Roseville at number 12 is a joke also, they are top 5 easily. Also not sure how any legitimate poll can have stillwater as number 17. They are definitely a top 10 team. Just my humble opinions.

I mostly have issues with some key assumptions that are being made by QRF.

1) That any Class A team is weighted to be weaker than AA

2) That score differential is an accurate representation of strength of any two HS teams when coaches have/don't "score control" all the time, in blow-outs, etc.

Class A - 1-14

Rankings: January 14, 2007
1 Blake (15-4-0) 99.1
2 Crookston (14-1-1) 92.1
3 Alexandria (16-1-0) 89.8
4 Breck (18-1-0) 85.4
5 Hibbing (9-10-1) 82.4
6 South St. Paul (13-6-0) 81.1
7 Farmington (13-4-1) 80.6
8 Warroad (14-4-1) 79.9
9 Austin (16-2-0) 79.3
10 New Prague (8-7-2) 74.3
T-11 Shakopee (8-7-4) 69.5
T-11 Simley (12-6-0) 69.5
13 New Ulm (11-5-0) 67.4
14 Richfield (13-6-0) 66.5
15 Totino-Grace (7-9-1) 64.6
16 Roseau (10-8-0) 64.1
17 Silver Bay (8-11-0) 61.5
18 Mahtomedi (6-10-1) 61.2
19 Faribault (11-4-1) 58.4
T-20 Mound Westonka (10-6-0) 57.1
T-20 St. Paul United (8-9-0) 57.1
22 Albert Lea (10-7-1) 53.3
23 Marshall (12-6-0) 53.2
24 Mankato West (9-9-0) 50.8
25 Orono (10-9-0) 48.4
26 Detroit Lakes (8-5-2) 47.7
27 Fergus Falls (6-10-1) 47.3
28 Northfield (8-10-0) 46.7
29 St. Louis Park (2-14-1) 42.5
30 East Grand Forks (7-11-1) 41.5
31 Red Wing (5-12-0) 39.1
32 Eveleth-Gilbert (9-9-1) 38.3
33 Thief River Falls (4-12-0) 37.9
34 Moose Lake Area (7-10-2) 37.2
35 Luverne (8-8-0) 35.9
T-36 Willmar (6-12-0) 35.6
T-36 International Falls (8-9-0) 35.6
38 Fairmont (7-7-0) 34.8
39 St. Paul Saints (5-11-0) 34.7
40 Hutchinson (3-14-0) 34.0
41 Morris Area/Benson/Minnewaska Area (4-9-3) 31.8
42 Lake of the Woods (7-11-0) 29.8
43 Princeton (2-12-0) 27.9
44 Litchfield/D-C (3-14-2) 26.5
45 L-H/St. Peter/Le Center (4-12-0) 25.7
46 Mankato East (3-16-1) 25.2
47 BEST/Ely (1-7-1) 24.9
48 Waseca (4-12-0) 24.4
49 LP-GE/W-DC (8-6-1) 24.1
50 Little Falls (2-14-0) 22.3
51 Minnehaha Academy (2-16-0) 22.2
52 Windom Area (3-10-1) 18.7
53 Park Rapids/Menahga/Nevis (0-13-0) 17.9
54 Worthington (2-13-1) 11.7
55 Redwood Valley (0-9-0) 10.5

Class AA - 1-14

Rankings: January 14, 2007
1 Edina (16-0-3) 103.9
2 Eden Prairie (15-0-0) 97.6
3 Benilde-St. Margaret's (14-2-1) 95.5
4 Bemidji (14-3-1) 94.8
5 Wayzata (10-4-3) 90.9
6 Holy Angels (17-2-0) 87.4
7 Roseville (12-3-3) 87.3
8 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton (11-5-3) 85.5
9 Centennial (15-4-0) 84.3
10 Moorhead (15-3-0) 83.4
11 Grand Rapids/Greenway (12-7-0) 79.7
12 Stillwater Area (11-5-3) 78.6
13 Coon Rapids (13-4-2) 77.6
14 Burnsville (12-6-1) 75.7
15 Forest Lake (13-4-2) 73.8
16 Hopkins (12-8-1) 71.3
17 Irondale (14-3-1) 69.3
18 Eagan (14-4-1) 68.8
19 Rochester Mayo (12-6-0) 68.4
20 North Metro (9-5-2) 67.7
21 Blaine (11-7-1) 67.2
22 Duluth East/Central/Denfeld (13-4-2) 67.0
23 Hill-Murray (9-7-2) 66.8
24 Elk River (9-8-0) 66.5
25 Cretin-Derham Hall (12-6-1) 65.0
26 Cambridge-Isanti/Mora (13-5-1) 64.7
27 Hastings (12-4-3) 64.1
28 Robbinsdale Armstrong (10-7-2) 63.9
29 Prior Lake (10-6-2) 58.8
30 St. Cloud Tech (11-8-0) 58.5
31 Apple Valley (10-7-2) 58.0
32 Proctor/Herm./Dul. Marshall (12-7-0) 57.6
33 White Bear Lake (6-12-2) 57.2
T-34 Spring Lake Park (11-6-1) 56.0
T-34 Maple Grove (5-11-2) 56.0
36 Anoka (9-8-1) 55.4
37 Minnetonka (8-9-2) 55.0
38 Henry Sibley (7-11-1) 53.9
39 Brainerd (9-8-0) 53.4
40 Eastview (9-10-1) 52.7
41 North St. Paul (8-10-1) 50.8
T-42 Woodbury (6-12-1) 50.7
T-42 Buffalo (8-10-0) 50.7
44 Lakeville South (7-11-1) 50.5
45 Bloomington Jefferson (6-10-1) 50.4
46 Lakeville North (9-10-1) 50.3
47 Mounds View (8-11-0) 49.5
48 Chisago Lakes Area (7-11-0) 49.4
49 North Wright County (10-6-1) 49.0
50 Andover (6-12-1) 45.9
51 Park of Cottage Grove (4-15-0) 44.9
52 St. Cloud Icebreakers (9-9-0) 44.8
53 Chaska (5-13-0) 44.5
T-54 River Lakes (8-8-0) 44.1
T-54 Champlin Park (5-11-0) 44.1
56 St. Francis (5-12-0) 41.2
57 Winona (9-6-0) 40.6
58 Minneapolis (6-12-1) 40.5
T-59 Rosemount (6-11-2) 36.5
T-59 St. Paul Blades (6-12-0) 36.5
T-61 Rogers/Zimmerman (4-14-0) 34.7
T-61 Dodge County (12-7-0) 34.7
63 Owatonna (5-10-1) 33.9
64 Robbinsdale Cooper (5-12-1) 33.7
65 Tartan (5-14-0) 31.7
66 Rochester John Marshall (3-10-1) 27.7
67 Sartell/Sauk Rapids (4-15-0) 26.0
68 Bloomington Kennedy (4-14-1) 25.8
69 Rochester Century (1-15-1) 16.4

Class AA - 1-27

Rankings: January 27, 2007
1 Edina (20-0-3) 128.8
2 Eden Prairie (22-0-0) 118.1
3 Bemidji (18-4-1) 113.0
4 Benilde-St. Margaret's (18-3-1) 108.5
5 Wayzata (11-7-4) 105.7
6 Holy Angels (19-3-0) 104.7
7 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton (13-6-3) 103.6
8 Grand Rapids/Greenway (17-7-0) 102.7
9 Roseville (16-4-3) 101.8
10 Centennial (18-4-1) 98.4
11 Coon Rapids (16-4-2) 98.3
12 Moorhead (16-6-0) 93.0
13 Stillwater Area (14-6-3) 90.0
14 Eagan (17-6-1) 89.0
15 Burnsville (14-7-2) 88.2
16 Hopkins (13-10-1) 87.9
17 Blaine (14-6-2) 85.7
18 Rochester Mayo (15-7-0) 85.5
19 North Metro (14-5-2) 83.3
20 Cretin-Derham Hall (16-6-1) 83.0
21 Irondale (18-4-1) 82.1
22 Forest Lake (15-6-2) 81.8
23 Hill-Murray (13-7-2) 81.4
24 Elk River (11-11-0) 78.6
25 Hastings (13-6-4) 75.9
26 Cambridge-Isanti/Mora (15-6-1) 75.1
27 White Bear Lake (7-13-4) 73.2
28 Duluth East/Central/Denfeld (14-8-2) 73.1
29 Robbinsdale Armstrong (12-9-2) 72.4
30 St. Cloud Tech (14-9-0) 70.8
31 Eastview (13-10-1) 70.2
32 Proctor/Herm./Dul. Marshall (12-10-2) 67.9
33 Anoka (11-10-1) 67.8
34 Spring Lake Park (13-9-1) 67.4
35 Minnetonka (10-11-3) 67.1
36 Prior Lake (12-9-2) 65.5
37 Henry Sibley (8-13-1) 64.6
38 Maple Grove (6-14-2) 63.3
39 Apple Valley (11-9-3) 62.6
40 Brainerd (11-10-0) 61.8
41 North Wright County (14-7-2) 61.1
42 Lakeville North (10-13-1) 60.9
43 Bloomington Jefferson (8-11-2) 60.8
44 St. Cloud Icebreakers (13-10-0) 60.7
45 Lakeville South (8-14-1) 59.6
46 North St. Paul (10-11-2) 59.5
47 Chaska (8-14-0) 59.4
48 Woodbury (7-14-2) 57.8
T-49 Buffalo (10-12-1) 57.5
T-49 River Lakes (10-11-2) 57.5
51 Chisago Lakes Area (8-14-2) 56.5
52 St. Francis (7-15-1) 56.3
53 Mounds View (8-15-0) 56.2
54 Park of Cottage Grove (4-19-0) 54.3
55 Andover (6-16-1) 54.1
56 Winona (10-8-1) 49.6
57 Rogers/Zimmerman (7-15-0) 49.1
58 Champlin Park (4-14-1) 46.9
59 Minneapolis (7-14-2) 46.1
60 St. Paul Blades (8-13-0) 44.5
61 Owatonna (7-12-1) 43.3
62 Rochester John Marshall (4-12-1) 41.0
T-63 Dodge County (14-10-0) 40.4
T-63 Rosemount (6-15-2) 40.4
65 Robbinsdale Cooper (5-15-2) 39.5
66 Tartan (5-18-0) 35.3
67 Sartell/Sauk Rapids (4-19-0) 33.2
68 Bloomington Kennedy (4-19-1) 30.5
69 Rochester Century (1-16-1) 20.1

Class A - 1-27

Rankings: January 27, 2007
1 Alexandria (21-1-0) 119.5
2 Crookston (18-3-1) 117.1
3 Blake (19-4-0) 116.5
4 Warroad (19-4-1) 110.2
5 Hibbing (12-10-1) 106.7
6 Austin (20-2-0) 103.0
7 Farmington (16-5-1) 102.1
8 South St. Paul (16-7-0) 101.3
9 New Prague (13-7-2) 99.9
10 Breck (20-3-0) 95.6
11 Silver Bay (11-10-1) 86.7
12 Roseau (12-11-0) 85.3
13 Shakopee (10-8-4) 82.8
14 New Ulm (14-8-0) 82.0
15 Simley (15-8-0) 79.4
16 Richfield (13-8-1) 79.1
17 Faribault (13-8-1) 76.6
18 Mound Westonka (13-7-0) 75.3
19 Totino-Grace (9-11-2) 75.1
20 Mahtomedi (8-12-1) 74.6
21 Marshall (18-6-0) 67.7
22 Albert Lea (12-9-1) 67.1
23 Mankato West (13-9-1) 66.4
T-24 Northfield (10-11-0) 61.9
T-24 St. Paul United (9-12-0) 61.9
26 Fergus Falls (9-12-1) 60.6
27 Detroit Lakes (9-8-3) 58.5
28 Orono (10-12-1) 56.3
29 Thief River Falls (7-15-0) 55.7
30 St. Louis Park (4-17-1) 51.8
31 East Grand Forks (8-14-1) 48.9
32 Fairmont (10-7-0) 48.5
33 Willmar (7-15-0) 47.7
34 Red Wing (5-16-0) 44.6
35 Hutchinson (4-17-0) 44.1
36 Luverne (10-10-1) 43.6
37 Eveleth-Gilbert (10-12-1) 43.2
38 International Falls (10-13-0) 42.8
T-39 Moose Lake Area (8-12-2) 42.2
T-39 Lake of the Woods (8-14-0) 42.2
41 Morris Area/Benson/Minnewaska Area (7-9-3) 41.0
42 St. Paul Saints (5-16-0) 37.9
43 Princeton (2-18-0) 35.8
44 Litchfield/D-C (4-17-2) 35.6
45 Mankato East (4-19-1) 33.3
46 L-H/St. Peter/Le Center (7-14-0) 32.3
47 Minnehaha Academy (4-18-0) 30.6
48 LP-GE/W-DC (8-9-3) 30.3
T-49 Waseca (5-16-0) 29.5
T-49 East Range (3-9-1) 29.5
51 Little Falls (3-20-0) 28.3
52 Windom Area (3-15-1) 27.8
53 Park Rapids/Menahga/Nevis (1-15-1) 23.5
54 Worthington (3-16-1) 16.5
55 Redwood Valley (0-13-0) 14.9

What exactly is it about this system that has the ranking impossibly skewed towards northern/outstate teams? CEC and GRG are way too high, as are all the northern A teams. It must be a serious defect in the system. This is more whacked out than the Pioneer Press rankings.

I would be curious as to how they figure out these rankings. It seems like H2H is low in their factoring. A bit puzzling I must say.

quote: What exactly is it about this system that has the ranking impossibly skewed towards northern/outstate teams? CEC and GRG are way too high, as are all the northern A teams. It must be a serious defect in the system.

You probably are right! The Northern teams shouldn't be included in any Hockey Rankings or Polls. In the north, they actually play a game that has 3-periods, 40 players, handful of coaches, and Fans. They get together and compete, the team that puts this rubber thing in a net the most wins. Thats how they figure out who is the better team.

The Metro area can continue on playing a Rankings Game every week, and compared stats, player profiles, Polls ,etc. Then leave it up to non-playing hockey analysis to tell them who won the game and where they are Ranked.

It's only a game, usually a physical confrontation, Not a Paper Chase!

Actually if you read through the forums here many of the Northern teams' boosters talk a lot about rankings, as much or more than fans of the Metro teams do. Nothing wrong with that - it's fun to speculate, second-guess, and chat about all things related to the girls' game!

ice29 wrote:

You probably are right! The Northern teams shouldn't be included in any Hockey Rankings or Polls. In the north, they actually play a game that has 3-periods, 40 players, handful of coaches, and Fans. They get together and compete, the team that puts this rubber thing in a net the most wins. Thats how they figure out who is the better team.

The Metro area can continue on playing a Rankings Game every week, and compared stats, player profiles, Polls ,etc. Then leave it up to non-playing hockey analysis to tell them who won the game and where they are Ranked.

It's only a game, usually a physical confrontation, Not a Paper Chase!

Yeesh! Wound a little too tightly, are we? But yes, to make it clear to IRangers and Duluthians, everyone in the 'Metro area' is against you.
Right now we're all writing our state reps to make sure they vote against funding the DECC remodeling. Then we'll throw darts at our Rudy Perpich pictures and cook our Jeno's pizzas 3 minutes too long to make sure the crust is burnt. We've been trying to run McHale out of town for years. Anything to stick it to those damned 'northerners'.

Good one Bensonmum, that was funny.

Bensonmum wrote:What exactly is it about this system that has the ranking impossibly skewed towards northern/outstate teams? CEC and GRG are way too high, as are all the northern A teams. It must be a serious defect in the system. This is more whacked out than the Pioneer Press rankings.

QRF "Formula" described here

From the site:
"The Quality Results Formula (QRF) was created to try and rank teams from different parts of the state. I won't go into a lot of detail about the formula, but will give you an idea of how it works.

Each game is given an individual QRF (iQRF) based four things: 1) win or loss, 2) opponent wins, 3) Class differential between the teams, and 4) margin of victory (or defeat). Logically, the more you win by, the more wins an opponent has, and the higher your opponents Class is, the higher your iQRF is for that game.

When all of a team's iQRF's are added together and divided by the number of MN games played, you come up with a team's QRF.
*Only MN vs. MN games count.

This number is then compared to other teams in the state to come up with an overall ranking." END

Now, this site seems to apply the same formula to all sports plus boys & girls equally. It's a fair assumption that there may be some statistical anomalies in girls hockey that make it different from say, boys basketball, but I'm not an expert. Looks like a basic strength of schedule formula with a little bit of tweaking by the author. Also applies some class differential mods that will particularly affect girls hockey.

Due to a low number of samples, one upset will ripple across the board. Not that any of this matters and I wouldn't lose any sleep over it. Fortunately they play the game on the ice, not on paper. Fun to argue though.

"Yeesh! Wound a little too tightly, are we? But yes, to make it clear to IRangers and Duluthians, everyone in the 'Metro area' is against you.
Right now we're all writing our state reps to make sure they vote against funding the DECC remodeling. Then we'll throw darts at our Rudy Perpich pictures and cook our Jeno's pizzas 3 minutes too long to make sure the crust is burnt. We've been trying to run McHale out of town for years. Anything to stick it to those damned 'northerners'.

Just the response i was looking for! Alittle lite humor in a thread that some take too serious.
Thank you!
(I think we all sent Jenos' pizza rolls south years ago)