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Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:02 pm
by kniven
Hmmmm. Iโ€™m waiting for the next WestY bomb to be dropped by West Metro.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:15 pm
by WestMetro
MinnScout has a good one, but so far
he is keeping it close .

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:49 pm
by WestMetro
We need a report from the East Metro about Bennett Schimeks plans for this fall

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 12:39 am
by CakeScout17
WestMetro wrote: โ†‘
Thu Jun 27, 2019 12:15 pm
MinnScout has a good one, but so far
he is keeping it close .
Lets deal with the DE potential early departures first...? Westy, dig deep in the 218. Or at least make a run up there and grab me a Tobies caramel roll on your back!

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 9:36 pm
by CakeScout17
Net Presence wrote: โ†‘
Fri Jun 28, 2019 1:20 am
CakeScout, check out the early departures thread. I've had the info since early last week but, just haven't had time to post anything.
I did see your most recent post. Fascinating...lot going on up there. Sometimes, the best move one can make is knowing when to leave. Hard to do, tough deal. I always refer to Bill Cowher when he stepped down in Pittsburgh...longest tenured at that time, off a SB win recently, top 5 most successful during his time? But when asked WHY? He simply said, "its just time - they need a new voice here and its time - I owe that to the players for all they have given me"! Bing. Well done.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:17 pm
by WestMetro
Reliable sources say that one of the previously discussed possible yes transfer , or no transfer , decision might be under reconsideration . Stay tuned.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:20 pm
by WestMetro
Waiting for one of our East Metro friends to provide further transfer update specifics , and any further coaching drama , on the East Side

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:25 pm
by kniven
WestMetro wrote: โ†‘
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:17 pm
Reliable sources say that one of the previously discussed possible yes transfer , or no transfer , decision might be under reconsideration . Stay tuned.
Westy BOMB ๐Ÿ’ฃ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:36 pm
by High Heat
I wonder what the percentage of accuracy is on all these โ€œrumorsโ€. Seems like everyone has a โ€œguyโ€ that knows things.

Just thinking out load.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Wed Jul 03, 2019 1:52 pm
by kniven
High Heat wrote: โ†‘
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:36 pm
I wonder what the percentage of accuracy is on all these โ€œrumorsโ€. Seems like everyone has a โ€œguyโ€ that knows things.

Just thinking out load.
If high school hockey were on ESPN, then West Metro would be the defacto news breaking dude...per Adrian Wojnarowski of ESPN and the NBA. I should start an 24 hour 7 day a week 365 days a year Minnesota State High School Hockey channel.๐Ÿค“

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:38 pm
by O-townClown
High Heat wrote: โ†‘
Wed Jul 03, 2019 12:36 pm
I wonder what the percentage of accuracy is on all these โ€œrumorsโ€.
You are on to something. I hear a lot and wouldn't think of posting because the families involved in these matters should be able to make it known on their own timeline. That said, a lot of what I hear isn't accurate or was once accurate but doesn't come to pass because circumstances change.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:43 pm
by muckandgrinder65
Interesting move geographically:
Heard on the Holiday up in Grand :| Rapids that there is a move in from Elk River- will be a Senior.
Was told he saw some varsity action last season as a junior in ER.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:45 pm
by muckandgrinder65
Emoji accidental- previous post

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Sat Jul 06, 2019 7:55 pm
by kniven
muckandgrinder65 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:45 pm
Emoji accidental- previous post
Elk River is down so the player will just be a depth guy. No biggie

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am
by blueline_6
muckandgrinder65 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:43 pm
Interesting move geographically:
Heard on the Holiday up in Grand :| Rapids that there is a move in from Elk River- will be a Senior.
Was told he saw some varsity action last season as a junior in ER.
I think every junior in the program saw some Varsity time last year in ER. Numbers are down for the Elks, and they keep dropping.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:32 pm
by kniven
blueline_6 wrote: โ†‘
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am
muckandgrinder65 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:43 pm
Interesting move geographically:
Heard on the Holiday up in Grand :| Rapids that there is a move in from Elk River- will be a Senior.
Was told he saw some varsity action last season as a junior in ER.
I think every junior in the program saw some Varsity time last year in ER. Numbers are down for the Elks, and they keep dropping.

That is so weird. Elk River High School hockey is finished for at least the next 10 years. If they were dropped from 7AA, they would probably rebound.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 9:43 am
by blueline_6
kniven wrote: โ†‘
Mon Jul 08, 2019 2:32 pm
blueline_6 wrote: โ†‘
Mon Jul 08, 2019 9:01 am
muckandgrinder65 wrote: โ†‘
Sat Jul 06, 2019 5:43 pm
Interesting move geographically:
Heard on the Holiday up in Grand :| Rapids that there is a move in from Elk River- will be a Senior.
Was told he saw some varsity action last season as a junior in ER.
I think every junior in the program saw some Varsity time last year in ER. Numbers are down for the Elks, and they keep dropping.

That is so weird. Elk River High School hockey is finished for at least the next 10 years. If they were dropped from 7AA, they would probably rebound.
Don't think section assignment has anything to do with it, something going on with the program. From what I've heard they are seeing a fair number of kids opt to play junior gold or just quit hockey completely.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:57 am
by PuckNA
You see that a lot, more so recently, I think a lot of kids 1. See where they fit or that the group behind or ahead of them is better. 2. Not willing to put in time and effort demanded 3. Burned out and just want to play for fun. 4. Feel spurned by coaches if not getting what they think they deserved. 5. Other things are now priorities (girls/boys, school, drugs, alcohol, work, etc). I think now there are more options and more entitled kids, so they pick up their ball and go home. I personally don't get it, make them cut you if you feel your on the bubble. Compete, sad but lots of kids don't have this like they use to I believe. Also see a lot of kids who feel they are automatically going to get a spot because they played JV last year, so don't work at it like they should, they get passed and they can't catch up.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 12:08 pm
by BP
PuckNA wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:57 am
You see that a lot, more so recently, I think a lot of kids 1. See where they fit or that the group behind or ahead of them is better. 2. Not willing to put in time and effort demanded 3. Burned out and just want to play for fun. 4. Feel spurned by coaches if not getting what they think they deserved. 5. Other things are now priorities (girls/boys, school, drugs, alcohol, work, etc). I think now there are more options and more entitled kids, so they pick up their ball and go home. I personally don't get it, make them cut you if you feel your on the bubble. Compete, sad but lots of kids don't have this like they use to I believe. Also see a lot of kids who feel they are automatically going to get a spot because they played JV last year, so don't work at it like they should, they get passed and they can't catch up.
Great post! If kids are that good - they aren't going to quit. Are there some decent players in the past that have quit? Yes. But the majority feel like they are better than they are and use the excuse they got spurned or politics (or more like the parents do). If anything - kid would transfer or AAA/juniors. I always like the old quite of people when they talk about the HS glory days - "I would've been a D1 guy, but didn't like the coach, so I quit." The JV comment above is very true and they get passed up by incoming bantams because they think its like football, baseball or soccer - where everyone makes it and it goes from 9th grade team to JV to Varsity and they don't put the work in. The see 5 guys graduate - so they automatically think that they are plugged in to the varsity roster.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:56 pm
by thefatcat
PuckNA wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:57 am
You see that a lot, more so recently, I think a lot of kids 1. See where they fit or that the group behind or ahead of them is better. 2. Not willing to put in time and effort demanded 3. Burned out and just want to play for fun. 4. Feel spurned by coaches if not getting what they think they deserved. 5. Other things are now priorities (girls/boys, school, drugs, alcohol, work, etc). I think now there are more options and more entitled kids, so they pick up their ball and go home. I personally don't get it, make them cut you if you feel your on the bubble. Compete, sad but lots of kids don't have this like they use to I believe. Also see a lot of kids who feel they are automatically going to get a spot because they played JV last year, so don't work at it like they should, they get passed and they can't catch up.
Elk Rivers numbers are down across the board, youth program is suffering as well. Other factors could be that ER is an aging exurb and there are not a lot of younger families moving into it. Socioecomincs play a part too, ER is more of a blue collar city and the cost of hockey is getting out of control for some families budgets.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 3:58 pm
by MWS coach
thefatcat wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jul 09, 2019 1:56 pm
PuckNA wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jul 09, 2019 11:57 am
You see that a lot, more so recently, I think a lot of kids 1. See where they fit or that the group behind or ahead of them is better. 2. Not willing to put in time and effort demanded 3. Burned out and just want to play for fun. 4. Feel spurned by coaches if not getting what they think they deserved. 5. Other things are now priorities (girls/boys, school, drugs, alcohol, work, etc). I think now there are more options and more entitled kids, so they pick up their ball and go home. I personally don't get it, make them cut you if you feel your on the bubble. Compete, sad but lots of kids don't have this like they use to I believe. Also see a lot of kids who feel they are automatically going to get a spot because they played JV last year, so don't work at it like they should, they get passed and they can't catch up.
Elk Rivers numbers are down across the board, youth program is suffering as well. Other factors could be that ER is an aging exurb and there are not a lot of younger families moving into it. Socioecomincs play a part too, ER is more of a blue collar city and the cost of hockey is getting out of control for some families budgets.
Above is about as full of false facts as I have seen. Incoming sophomore class is one of the largest in years. Last years sophomore class was one of the smallest in years, but that age group has been small since those players were mites. ER is not an aging exurb and has a lot of new/newer homes being built. ER has NEVER had huge numbers. It is far from a blue collar community especially compared to what it used to be. Sadly, the transition from blue color community now has more entitled kids which has resulted in a shift away from the "old" ER mentality of we may not be the most talented but we will never be outworked.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 4:26 pm
by kniven
Elk will likely be fighting for home playoff games going forward. Welcome to the war ๐Ÿ˜ฏ Elk River

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:10 pm
by WestMetro
HockeyOnFire

Any updated comings or goings to report for
Holy Family ?

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:48 pm
by kniven
WestMetro wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:10 pm
HockeyOnFire

Any updated comings or goings to report for
Holy Family ?
I need a report on the state of hockey, youth and high school at Blaine and White Bear Lake. And a power point presentation please.

Re: Transfers for 2019-20 season

Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2019 10:00 pm
by PuckNA
WestMetro wrote: โ†‘
Tue Jul 09, 2019 5:10 pm
HockeyOnFire

Any updated comings or goings to report for
Holy Family ?
I hear a player is possibly on the way out.. gnot kidding...