Section 3AA/Schwan's Cup

wisconsinprephockey · Post by **wisconsinprephockey** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:47 pm

Can any section even compare to 3AA?

Hill-Murray
Centinnial
Roseville
Stillwater
White Bear Lake
Irondale
Mounds View
North Saint Paul

This seems to be the deepest conference every year. With the fact that only one team from 3AA going to the State Tourny, will the competition be better at the Schwan's Cup than the State Tourny?

It seems to me that the Schwan's Cup will host more top 15 teams and higher ranked teams then the State Tourny will. Does anyone else see a problem with this?

SCHWAN'S CUP
Duluth East
Hill-Murray
Centinnial
Roseville
Holy Angels
White Bear Lake
Moorhead
Bloomington Jefferson

gr19 · Post by **gr19** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:51 pm

Section 7AA is better than 3AA this year. Anyone that pays attention should know that.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:54 pm

Not really sure what you're talking about. Oh yeah, you're from Rapids, 7AA is all that exists to you. My bad.

wisconsinprephockey · Post by **wisconsinprephockey** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:56 pm

7AA is a good conference, but why do you think they are better?

I just don't know if Elk River, Grand Rapids, and Brainerd will be consistent enough to give them the depth that Section 3AA has.

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:00 pm

Very true. They have East and Cloquet, but no depth. And it's a section, not a conference. FYI.

wisconsinprephockey · Post by **wisconsinprephockey** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:02 pm

whoops, good call

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:07 pm

But to answer your question directly. No 3AA can't compare to the Gold Cup. If any one section could that wouldn't be fun to watch; it would be kinda like sections

It's better and has some teams from the same section which is cool. Schwan's Gold Cup is kinda like a pre-State tournament.

wisconsinprephockey · Tue Dec 12, 2006 11:46 pm

My biggest point/complaint is at state we will be watching Rochester Somethin play in a game as well as possible Blaine or Osseo.

Whereas at the Schwan's Cup every team is a competitor worthy of being at State, with the exception of maybe Centinnial(which is rare for them).

Section 3AA could possibly be looking at leaving 3 worthy teams at home come time for the big dance.

Lowerchesterdchs · Post by **Lowerchesterdchs** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:03 am

You have to consider Tonka, Benilde, Edina, Jefferson and Chaska as a pretty good section.

State Champ 97 · Post by **State Champ 97** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:09 am

Adding Northern lakes to 7AA puts them over the top. J/K

THEGunslinger · Post by **THEGunslinger** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:22 am

The 7AA debate is laughable.... I just cant see the debate on this one... but Im not looking at it through the pine trees like they are up North!

State Champ 97 · Post by **State Champ 97** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:26 am

Im not looking at it through the pine trees like they are up North!

Just stuck in traffic on the way up here?

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:41 am

wisconsinprephockey wrote:Can any section even compare to 3AA?

Hill-Murray
Centinnial
Roseville
Stillwater
White Bear Lake
Irondale
Mounds View
North Saint Paul

Yes...7AA.
Cloquet, Duluth East, Grand Rapids, Brainerd, Elk River, Forest Lake

THEGunslinger · Post by **THEGunslinger** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:41 am

Im now eating some crow!

boblee · Post by **boblee** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 11:45 am

wisconsinprephockey wrote:7AA is a good conference, but why do you think they are better?

I just don't know if Elk River, Grand Rapids, and Brainerd will be consistent enough to give them the depth that Section 3AA has.

H-M is tough, but no better than East, or Cloquet
Centennial got absolutely demolished 8-3 by Roseville.
Roseville is tops in this section, and again, not better than East or Cloquet
Stillwater I wouldn't call consistent at all.
WBL is 1-5.
Irondale, MV, NSP...are you serious? the number 6 seed in section 7 will be better than any of these three...Granted the 7,8 seeds may be a bit tougher in 3AA.

greenway1969 · Post by **greenway1969** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 12:40 pm

3AA is not as strong as it has been in recent years. They were easily the toughest section with Hill-Murray, White Bear Lake, Centennial, Roseville, and even Stillwater. This year's teams do not seem to measure up to past year performances. Section 6AA seems to be the one with the most depth, although no one team will be ranked in the top five. Section 7AA is close behind.

wisconsinprephockey · Post by **wisconsinprephockey** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:07 pm

boblee wrote:H-M is tough, but no better than East, or Cloquet
Centennial got absolutely demolished 8-3 by Roseville.
Roseville is tops in this section, and again, not better than East or Cloquet
Stillwater I wouldn't call consistent at all.
WBL is 1-5.
Irondale, MV, NSP...are you serious? the number 6 seed in section 7 will be better than any of these three...Granted the 7,8 seeds may be a bit tougher in 3AA.

I have to agree with you, I would probably put East, and Cloquet against anybody in 3AA. (East better rep them good at the Schwans Cup) however I would put WBL against anyone after East and Cloquet. They have had a ridiculously brutal schedule (Fargo South, Moorhead, Hill-Murray, Cloquet, & East) The way I look at it the sections shake down like this...

East or Cloquet topping the section(#1 spot pending on Thursdays game)
I think its too hard to tell who would win out of a match-up of Roseville vs. East or Cloquet I guess the section argument is just too close to call until we learn more at the Schwans Cup

Roseville_________vs______East or Cloquet
Hill-Murray_______vs______Cloquet or East (advantage cloquet or east)
White Bear Lake___vs_____Grand Rapids (advantage WBL)
Stillwater_________vs_____Brainerd (advantage Stillwater)
Centinnial_________vs_____Elk River (advantage Elk River)
Mounds View______vs_____Forest Lake (advantage Forest Lake)
North St. Paul_____vs______Andover (who knows who cares)
Irondale_________________Cambridge
________________________St. Francis
________________________Northern Lakes

wisconsinprephockey · Post by **wisconsinprephockey** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:34 pm

Lowerchesterdchs wrote:You have to consider Tonka, Benilde, Edina, Jefferson and Chaska as a pretty good section.

Edina will will certainly help there cause with their big win over Cretin. However Eagen and Tonka seem to be the front runners in this section right now. Who cant be put up against Hill-Murray or Roseville.

However with Benilde, Eden Prairie, and Edina you could argue they have the depth.

I know I havent put Jefferson up there but I personally have no faith in them. They have yet to be tested and come out with a win(losing to Eagen and Chaska)

Bottom Line for 6AA to make the argument they need at least one front runner to prove to be amongst the elite in the State. Once that happens they have the depth to make the statement. Edina, in my mind, is the only one from that section to make a statement yet, and if they back it up against Rapids next week, we can consider 6AA

Hova · Post by **Hova** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:40 pm

I give the advantage to 7AA just for the fact that it has two front runners (East and Cloquet) that can match up to pretty much any team in the state. Wisconsinprephockey pointed this out in his matchups when saying that they both were better than every team in the section and even with roseville. 7AA also includes depth in unbeaten Brainerd, Grand Rapids (whos only loss is to Cloquet), Elk River and Forest Lake.

wisconsinprephockey · Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:11 pm

Looks like 3AA proved themselves with Centennials win over East tonight!!

Roseville_________vs______Cloquet (Advantage Cloquet)
Hill-Murray_______vs______East (Hill-Murray)
White Bear Lake___vs_____Elk River (advantage WBL)
Centennial_________vs_____Brainerd (advantage Stillwater)
Stillwater_________vs_____Grand Rapids (advantage Centennial)
Mounds View______vs_____Forest Lake (advantage Forest Lake)
North St. Paul_____vs______Andover (who knows who cares)
Irondale_________________Cambridge
________________________St. Francis
________________________Northern Lakes

Sparlimb · Post by **Sparlimb** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:48 pm

boblee wrote: H-M is tough, but no better than East, or Cloquet
Centennial got absolutely demolished 8-3 by Roseville.
Roseville is tops in this section, and again, not better than East or Cloquet
Stillwater I wouldn't call consistent at all.
WBL is 1-5.
Irondale, MV, NSP...are you serious? the number 6 seed in section 7 will be better than any of these three...Granted the 7,8 seeds may be a bit tougher in 3AA.

Quotes byte sometimes. Roseville beats Centennial at Centennial 8-3 and Centennial beats East. Guess this argument is going down the drain. We also get to see East vs. Hill, so we'll know who is better there. The wild card here is how good is Cloquet this year? One of my favorite teams to cheer for (ever since Corey Millen)...

HShockeywatcher · Post by **HShockeywatcher** » Fri Dec 22, 2006 12:27 am

Hill Murray is the strongest team and I just lost all respect for them when they beat South St Paul 6-3 tonight...

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