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mnhcky23 · Post by **mnhcky23** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:22 pm

Lee the only reason you are "skeptical" is because it's concerning Duluth East. The girl is playing for a school where there is already a girls team. The whole thing is bush league.

justplayhockey · Post by **justplayhockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:27 pm

My first question was to try and find out first of all if it is allowed by Minnesota hockey league for a girl to play on the boys team. I didn't mention the girl in the first place because I wasn't sure if it was TRUE.

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:30 pm

mnhcky23 wrote:Lee the only reason you are "skeptical" is because it's concerning Duluth East. The girl is playing for a school where there is already a girls team. The whole thing is bush league.

Gee, I don't recall asking you. You registered just in the past few minutes so you could take a shot at me? You're not a Hunters fan, are you?

Stay out of this.

Lee

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:33 pm

justplayhockey wrote:My first question was to try and find out first of all if it is allowed by Minnesota hockey league for a girl to play on the boys team. I didn't mention the girl in the first place because I wasn't sure if it was TRUE.

The answer is, obviously, it's allowed. What, you think the coaches at East would do this without being absolutely sure of the position, in light of how there are people who are dying to catch Mike, Terry and Larry in an indiscretion? The coaching staff knows there are people looking for something, anything, as an excuse to try and push their agenda a second time; specifically, to have Mike dismissed as East's coach.

In other words....nice try.

Lee

Can't Never Tried · Post by **Can't Never Tried** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:34 pm

east hockey wrote:
mnhcky23 wrote:Lee the only reason you are "skeptical" is because it's concerning Duluth East. The girl is playing for a school where there is already a girls team. The whole thing is bush league.
Gee, I don't recall asking you. You registered just in the past few minutes so you could take a shot at me? You're not a Hunters fan, are you?

Stay out of this.

Lee

Some people...I tell ya

I'd never do that

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:35 pm

Can't Never Tried wrote:
east hockey wrote:
mnhcky23 wrote:Lee the only reason you are "skeptical" is because it's concerning Duluth East. The girl is playing for a school where there is already a girls team. The whole thing is bush league.
Gee, I don't recall asking you. You registered just in the past few minutes so you could take a shot at me? You're not a Hunters fan, are you?

Stay out of this.

Lee
Some people...I tell ya
I'd never do that

Careful, CNT. You don't want to waste your 2,000th post on this topic, do you?

Lee

justplayhockey · Post by **justplayhockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:35 pm

So how is it allowed then if their is a girls team?

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 12:37 pm

justplayhockey wrote:So how is it allowed then if their is a girls team?

Did you consider that East doesn't have their own girls team, that they're in a co-op?

Tell you what...you research this via the MSHSL and get back to us. Let us know what you find out.

Lee

elliott70 · Post by **elliott70** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:14 pm

I believe this is at itle IX issue and Supreme court issue.

I have read (since I am so old I cannot put my finger on it), that since boys and girls hockey is inheritently different (checking) girls can play on boys teams, regardless of what MSHSL or Duluth East says.
Girls are allowed to participate on boys teams in contact sports where similar teams are not available for girls.

Perhaps we have a constitutional attorney somewhere on the board that can give us the details.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:22 pm

If a girl makes the boys team in high school, the only thing you should say is congratulations.

I'm sorry justplayhockeys kid got cut but "dem's da berries".

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:24 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:If a girl makes the boys team in high school, the only thing you should say is congratulations.

I'm sorry justplayhockeys kid got cut but "dem's da berries".

Actually, nobody got cut to make room for Paige.

Lee

justplayhockey · Post by **justplayhockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:25 pm

Not the case, I have a daughter playing GIRLS hockey.

Neutron 14 · Post by **Neutron 14** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:26 pm

east hockey wrote:
Actually, nobody got cut to make room for Paige.

Lee

OIC....

So many axes to grind up there....

Post by **east hockey** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 1:28 pm

Neutron 14 wrote:
east hockey wrote:
Actually, nobody got cut to make room for Paige.

Lee
OIC....

So many axes to grind up there....

Too many! Old hat.

Lee

fubar-errr-what · Post by **fubar-errr-what** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 2:27 pm

well..last year at my school a girls soccer player decided to play on the boys team even know we did have a girls soccer team and they let her.... and she probably was one of the best on our boys soccer team...

hockeydad · Post by **hockeydad** » Sun Dec 16, 2007 4:29 pm

I don't think there is a restrictoin about girls playing on a boys team if the school has a girls team.

Recall that Krissy Wendell played boys hockey (JV team) at Park Center until her junior (I think) season, then went over to the girls game and dominated. Had she played her entire career with the boys, she would be right up there with the girls all-time leading scorers.

Jen Hanley played with Edina's team, but that was in the days before girls hockey.

regdunlop77 · Post by **regdunlop77** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 2:13 pm

elliott70 wrote:
Goldy Gopher wrote:I agree with you 100%, but that isn't the answer to my question. My question is if it is theoretically possible for a boy to play on a girls high school hockey team or not.
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No. It is defined by gender.
Boys side is not.

The debate rages, with no end in sight.

On one side of the debate here, boys are viewed as physically dominant, enough so that they dramatically alter competition for girls. Even for boys not as talented or as physical as their female teammates, some coaches and parents argue that they should not play because they would be displacing girls from teams, thereby reducing the opportunities afforded girls and women under Title IX, the 1972 legislation that prohibits discrimination in educational programs that receive federal funds.

Just because girls are allowed to go out for the boys' football team, the critics say, does not mean that boys should be allowed to compete on the girls' field hockey team.

''Typically, adding a girl to a boys' team doesn't have the level of impact when a boy plays on a girls' team,'' said Janet Ryan, the mother of Megan Horrigan, an Amherst player. ''It's not a level playing field. We almost hate to say to our daughter, 'Boys are stronger and faster than you are,' but they are.''

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.h ... yt&emc=rss

regdunlop77 · Post by **regdunlop77** » Mon Dec 17, 2007 4:28 pm

justplayhockey wrote:So how is it allowed then if their is a girls team?

Its allowed by state law.
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Subd. 3. Exceptions. (a) Notwithstanding any other state law to the contrary, in athletic
programs operated by educational institutions or public services and designed for participants 12
years old or older or in the 7th grade or above, it is not an unfair discriminatory practice to restrict
membership on an athletic team to participants of one sex whose overall athletic opportunities
have previously been limited.

(d) If two teams are provided in the same sport, one of these teams may be restricted to
members of a sex whose overall athletic opportunities have previously been limited, and members
of either sex shall be permitted to try out for the other team.

http://www.revisor.leg.state.mn.us/bin/ ... &year=2007

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