WestMetro wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:13 pm
Stang. You get my vote for best keeping on top of mshsl while living in different time zone !
Thanks, though there probably isn’t a whole lot of competition in that category! I have always followed Breck closely for obvious reasons, but started paying more attention to high school hockey as a whole the last few years. With more games available for streaming now, I really decided to focus on Class A this year, since there isn’t as much focus on that level on the board.
By my count there are 3 categories:
Hermantown haters
Hermantown lovers
TT
section 3
section 6
section 8
you
and me.
WestMetro wrote: ↑Sun Jan 27, 2019 10:13 pm
Stang. You get my vote for best keeping on top of mshsl while living in different time zone !
Thanks, though there probably isn’t a whole lot of competition in that category! I have always followed Breck closely for obvious reasons, but started paying more attention to high school hockey as a whole the last few years. With more games available for streaming now, I really decided to focus on Class A this year, since there isn’t as much focus on that level on the board.
By my count there are 3 categories:
Hermantown haters
Hermantown lovers
TT
section 3
section 6
section 8
you
and me.
Your math skillz are beyond all comprehension. No one shall ever question them.
Some thoughts on goaltending in the context of the Brimsek awards, and whether it's better to be a good goalie on a strong team that plays a tough schedule or one who has to be the star of the team on a team with a weak one:
karl(east) wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:36 am
Some thoughts on goaltending in the context of the Brimsek awards, and whether it's better to be a good goalie on a strong team that plays a tough schedule or one who has to be the star of the team on a team with a weak one:
As usual, great research and writing, Karl. I would almost take your thesis a step further and say that Minnesota seems to lag overall in goaltender development through the high school ranks. The truly elite talents like Oettinger, Stalock, and Miska have mostly left early to hone their skills prior to college. I think a big part of the equation is the limited HS schedule, where goalies aren’t seeing as much rubber as they do with in the NTDP or junior ranks. For all of the great skaters that Minnesota produces, the number of similarly talented goalies is out of whack.
karl(east) wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:36 am
Some thoughts on goaltending in the context of the Brimsek awards, and whether it's better to be a good goalie on a strong team that plays a tough schedule or one who has to be the star of the team on a team with a weak one:
Interesting piece. Thanks for the thoughts. At the end of the day, goaltenders these days have to get through juniors and that's typically when they receive any D-1 offers. I agree that the high school team does help with development and there are pros and cons to (1) being in front of a better team like Glockner or Fritzinger and (2) on teams that may have to rely more heavily on the keeper like Boynton. As I have stated in prior posts and am a firm believer, the numbers don't tell everything. The reliance on the statistical numbers for high school goalies is largely inaccurate. I have been to games where a goalie sees 30 shots but the volunteer running the shot clock is focused on something else and the game sheet says 15 and vice versa. The committee should also factor in specific elements that a goalie coach would know (lateral movement, rebound control, puck playing, etc.) rather than relying on a historical data dump or who is leading the state in Ws, Save %, or GAA. As a former goalie and knowing the position inside and out I know who's the best goalie out of these three, but many will vote based on the high-level statistics. No doubt it's a hard position to evaluate and always will be. Regardless, congratulations to all three nominees. Well deserved.
Also you forgot to mention another AHA D-1 Goaltender. Tommy Burke (Bowling Green - played all fours years if I recall).
karl(east) wrote: ↑Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:36 am
Some thoughts on goaltending in the context of the Brimsek awards, and whether it's better to be a good goalie on a strong team that plays a tough schedule or one who has to be the star of the team on a team with a weak one:
As usual, great research and writing, Karl. I would almost take your thesis a step further and say that Minnesota seems to lag overall in goaltender development through the high school ranks. The truly elite talents like Oettinger, Stalock, and Miska have mostly left early to hone their skills prior to college. I think a big part of the equation is the limited HS schedule, where goalies aren’t seeing as much rubber as they do with in the NTDP or junior ranks. For all of the great skaters that Minnesota produces, the number of similarly talented goalies is out of whack.
Oettinger went back to high school though didn’t he?
Maybe the numbers don’t bear this out but it seems because only 1 goalie plays per team per game vs 5-6 defensemen and 9 or more forwards the number of goalies gets skewed somewhat. And that doesn’t even take into account the use of scholarships.
I have always followed Breck closely for obvious reasons, but started paying more attention to high school hockey as a whole the last few years. With more games available for streaming now, I really decided to focus on Class A this year, since there isn’t as much focus on that level on the board.