SSP Wins

WarroadWarrior · Post by **WarroadWarrior** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:20 pm

Because of a missed call by the refs. SSP scores AFTER the wistle with less than a minute to play to tie and wins in OT. Something isn't right about that

hockey0711 · Post by **hockey0711** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:29 pm

the whistle shuold not have been blown though, as you could see the puck was not covered

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:30 pm

This is an interesting situation. Interesting in that they did realize that whistles are not reviewable in their "list" of things they can look at. I'm uncertain as to how the final decision was made on this one though as it appeared that a premature whistle was blown. The end result was that it should have been a goal and the whistle was early.

Warroad11 · Post by **Warroad11** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:34 pm

Yes we know the play was blown dead too soon but the fact is it WAS blown dead. The wrong call was made by the refs on this. They messed up this game from start to finish and I hope we dont see this group ref a state title game again. Bad calls made the whole game.

MR DANGLES 1 · Post by **MR DANGLES 1** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:36 pm

the refs blew warroad state title shot

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:44 pm

I agree the whistle blew before the goal. The other side will argue that the whistle was premature. As to the officiating, there were a TON of penalties in this game. Warroad has a great team, and it's tough for any team to have to lose in OT of the State Championship. SSP keeps the Section 4A streak alive. Every 4-team Class A tourney title was won by a Section 4A team. Congrats to SSP and too bad about the controversy in this one.

SectionFan · Post by **SectionFan** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 2:49 pm

The rule is that the ref blows the whistle when he loses sight of the puck - which he obviously did. SSP can't feel like state champs after that one.

shinpad · Post by **shinpad** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:27 pm

I find it hard to believe that the same ref that blew the whistle would then skate over and emphatically point to the net indicating "goal". If the ref did that, that is a huge mental error that should not be ignored by the MSHSL. However, one should point out that Warroad should never had been in that position to begin with. They had opportunity after opportunity on the PP to distance themselves from SSP, but failed to do so. Bottom line is the game is in the books...SSP State Champs and Warroad runner up.<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)">

WolvesHockey · Post by **WolvesHockey** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:51 pm

did you watch the game? sounds like possibly you did not and are going by the posts? the ref clearly blew the whistle before the puck was shot into the net. yes the whistle should not have been blown but it was. SSP champs WHS runners in the books the controversial books. poorly officiated from the drop of the puck to the last whistle.

shinpad · Post by **shinpad** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 3:59 pm

Of course I watched the game! How else would I know that Warraod was 1 for 100 on the PP? My point was this...putting myself in the position of a ref...I'm standing in the low corner...I lose sight of the puck...I blow the whistle...uh oh, it's in the net! I skate over and emphatically indicate goal...after blowing my whistle??? Does not make sense! Why did that ref not step up and waive the goal off, knowing that he/she had blown the play dead? Coach K could have used a little more emotion and strong handed the ref to reconsider...in my humble opinion. Not that it would have reversed the call, but apparently it works for other coaches in this tourney! <img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/wink.gif ALT=";)"> On a side note...the reffing was pretty poor throughout, so I guess we shouldn't be surprised to see this controversy at the end of the game.

WolvesHockey · Post by **WolvesHockey** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 4:43 pm

ok i was unclear as to the way i read your post. we agree, i think scotty should have been more emphatic but that is not his style.

WarroadWarrior · Post by **WarroadWarrior** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:20 pm

He's no Eades thats for sure. In the end i'm glad our girls got past the section championship game for once and will be bringing home some sort of hardware. There is always next year!

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 5:52 pm

I was impressed by some ofthe younger players I saw this weekend (on TV anyway...) and Warroad has some of them. I assume that a number of players off the U14 that did so well from Warroad recently will be playing with the team next year too. I assume they'll have another strong squad, but will miss Roberts for certain. Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 2/25/06 5:52 pm

brookyone · Post by **brookyone** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 7:13 pm

Judging by ALL the games I watched in the tourney so far, improving the officiating (significantly) needs to be addressed in whatever way is necessary.

Renegade Ram · Post by **Renegade Ram** » Sat Feb 25, 2006 10:12 pm

IF those two were the best the MSHSL has to offer for officials then the girl's side is in trouble. Like other posters have said poorly done from the first drop of the puck to the final buzzer. Corny and imaginary penalties, missed offsides, goal(S) allowed that shouldn't have been. Looked worse than a South Dakota Bantam game ref job....<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin">

puckstopper 30 · Post by **puckstopper 30** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:48 am

first of all I wish Warroad would have won. Now according to the mshsl site the refs were Wrazidilo, and Milanovich, but I think Milanovich did the Ifalls/Hermantown sec 7a boys game. Which ref made the call, the female or male? Milanovich shouldn't being do a squirt game, he's that bad. I feel for Warroad, but what goes around comes around. When your team goes to Warroad,in any age group, you get screwed by the warroad refs, because they are the biggest homers in the state of hockey.

mnhockeygal · Post by **mnhockeygal** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 10:43 am

I agree on the officiating. How you come up with a crew that pathetic for a State championship is just amazing. 4 or 5 just ludicrous phantom calls on SSP. A couple terrible calls on Warroad also. The tying goal - still not sure how that developed but the bottom line is the right result occurred as obviously no whistle should have been blown. A great, emotional and gritty effort by Bloemers and SSP. Danika Porter made 5-7 big time game saving saves. She is as money in the playoffs as you would ever want. The D played outstanding and the girls just showed the heart of a champion. What a dynasty.

Cola21 · Post by **Cola21** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:43 am

It was the girl ref that blew the whistle prematurely, then "made up" for it by signaling goal<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/sick.gif ALT=":x"> Probably a bad place to say this but if a girl ref isnt good enough to do boys games why can they do a girls state championship game?

SectionFan · Post by **SectionFan** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 11:46 am

I am sure she was there "by rule" as opposed to being there being "qualified". SectionFan

Renegade Ram · Post by **Renegade Ram** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:02 pm

Whether the official likes it or not once the whistle had blown play IS DEAD. She had no right to deem that a goal as play was dead because the whistle had blown prior to the puck crossing the line. It's called a mistake and you can't make it up the way they did it. Does SSP get an asterisk by their Title in the program next year. Also, the first goal against Warroad a SSP girl skated through the crease prior to the shot taking place. That is an automatic whistle but that was another missed call by the crew. I agree SSP was whistled for several phantom calls but the blown calls on the goals were way more devastating to Warroad. I hope the crews evaluation causes her to rethink a career in officiating - could maybe handle lines, she didn't belong there yesterdat though....<img src=http://www.ezboard.com/images/emoticons/smokin.gif ALT=":smokin">

shinpad · Post by **shinpad** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:23 pm

I believe that is the point that everybody in this thread has been trying to make. How does a ref that blew the play dead then skate in and indicate "goal"??? That ref HAD to know that she blew the play dead. What prompted her to call the goal? I could see the controversy if the other ref or linesman blew the whistle, but I believe that was her "call". If you listened to the SSP coach last night he said the whistle and goal were simultaneous. Bull!!! Not the way I would want to claim a state title, but a state title nonetheless. I guess you learn to accept the good, bad, and the ugly in this sport.

ghshockeyfan · Post by **ghshockeyfan** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 12:51 pm

In my opinion, Re: the 1st SSP goal - there was contact with the goalie in the crease while the puck was not there - but the puck had JUST been there and was why the F was in the crease... I'm not sure as to how this was interpreted... If you saw Stoa's disalowed goal in the AA game, her teammate Feste's skate nicked the top of the crease as she was being PUSHED IN by a defender (puck had not just been in the crease as was the case for SSP #1). Feste's body didn't come into contact with the goalie at any time, nor come with a couple feet of the play/goalie, and she was being pushed in by the D that was covering her well (you see the D's foot enter the screen too at the same time in the same spot (just touching the top of the crease). If you disalow Stoa's do you disalow the #1 SSP goal too? The truth is that we all will see these differently I'm sure, but there needs to be a uniform rule set that's employed - or - as xk1 said earlier, allow for all questionable goals (or all goals for that matter) to be reviewed to see if anything leading up to them was grounds for disalowing a goal. You still need to have rules about what constitutes what is and isn't allowable - but at least this would give more room for video (and audio...) replay to be used... Edited by: <A HREF=http://p100.ezboard.com/bmnhs.showUserP ... ckeyfan</A> at: 2/26/06 12:52 pm

Nostalgic Nerd · Post by **Nostalgic Nerd** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 6:41 pm

<blockquote>Quote:<hr>If you saw Stoa's disalowed goal in the AA game, her teammate Feste's skate nicked the top of the crease as she was being PUSHED IN by a defender (puck had not just been in the crease as was the case for SSP #1). Feste's body didn't come into contact with the goalie at any time, nor come with a couple feet of the play/goalie, and she was being pushed in by the D that was covering her well (you see the D's foot enter the screen too at the same time in the same spot (just touching the top of the crease).<hr></blockquote> I'm wondering if Stoa can teach me that little scoring trick? How do you be behind or two the side of the net and do a wrap around but instead of shooting to the near side, shoot it around the far side of the goalie for a goal? That was something else. "Dream as if you'll live forever; Live as if you'll die today." --James Dean

Warroad11 · Post by **Warroad11** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 7:41 pm

I taped the game and have watched it over and over again, the whistle blew a good 2 second ahead of it being tipped in, so that coach needs to go back and watch the film. If the highschool league wants any good to come out of this they need to go back and make sure these two refs never do any state tourney games again because this by any standard was a poor game. Both teams where hurt by the calls that were made. No one wanted to see SSP get screwed by the early whistle but is it fair that they didnt but Warroad did? How about on goal one with the player going through the mouth of the goal? Two goals that shouldnt have happened. This was a complete mess and I hope that something does come of this mess because I promise you no one is happy with how the game was called, even the SSP fans and coach have to agree with that

mnhockeygal · Post by **mnhockeygal** » Sun Feb 26, 2006 9:04 pm

Thank you for that comedy. Why dont you watch it one more time, this time putting down your "I hate SSP glasses" and this time count a thousand one, a thousand two and what your will see is about 3 diff camera shots have occurred after the goal, see since 2 seconds is a long long time. It was a bang bang play and the whistle was very near to being siumlataneous. Any unbiased reasonable person can see and hear that. Yes, it definitely occurrs after the goal, but there should have never been a whistle, that part is abundantly clear. So I guess we should start a congresssional investigation because SSP NEARLY got hosed, but didnt. You are completely embarrassing.

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