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I asked a few questions, which you didn't answer. I am not sure where I judged anyone? I never stated anyone was better than anyone else, I just am curious how people made their comparisons!

Green and White Fan wrote:I asked a few questions, which you didn't answer. I am not sure where I judged anyone? I never stated anyone was better than anyone else, I just am curious how people made their comparisons!

Edina plays a Minnetonka, then Eastview, Bursnville, BSM, Hopkins , Centennial, Minnetonka again, the Scwans Cup etc ,etc and so on all season long and right now are 20 sometin and 1.

You want to compare common or similar opponents within a schedule that is ranked #47 with a schedule thats ranked #5.

A tough schedule is more demanding all season, every night. A #47 schedule isn't. Edina plays quality opponents almost every night. Roseau doesn't.

What would Roseaus record be if they played Edinas schedule? We dont know but Id bet they would lose some games.

I dont care if Roseau beat Buffalo by only 3 and Edina beat them by 9.

Compare season long schedules and performance , not a couple of games. When I do that , I like Edina's season more than Roseau's.
I think HAL would give you the same answer.

theres no point comparing two teams scores against a bad team, its harder to play real good against bad teams the hockey is just sloppy, so scores against buffalo have no impact whatsoever on this issue.. if they both had played a good team it would be a little bit easier to compare

Cabela10 wrote:RoseauHockeyFan???

Did you get this game live up there or did you record the replay at 11pm saturday night?

I recorded the 3rd period which was broadcasted live on FSN, and I also recorded the replay of the whole game that night at 11.

packerboy wrote:
Edina plays a Minnetonka, then Eastview, Bursnville, BSM, Hopkins , Centennial, Minnetonka again, the Scwans Cup etc ,etc and so on all season long and right now are 20 sometin and 1.

You want to compare common or similar opponents within a schedule that is ranked #47 with a schedule thats ranked #5.

A tough schedule is more demanding all season, every night. A #47 schedule isn't. Edina plays quality opponents almost every night. Roseau doesn't.

What would Roseaus record be if they played Edinas schedule? We dont know but Id bet they would lose some games.

I dont care if Roseau beat Buffalo by only 3 and Edina beat them by 9.

Compare season long schedules and performance , not a couple of games. When I do that , I like Edina's season more than Roseau's.
I think HAL would give you the same answer.

Give Edina the "strength of schedule" banner, trophy and medals and move on

So sneaking out a win against PS2 #26 Hopkins is okay, because Edina plays a tough schedule, but sneaking out a win against PS2 #7 is bad for Roseau, because they play a weaker schedule??

Green and White Fan wrote:So sneaking out a win against PS2 #26 Hopkins is okay, because Edina plays a tough schedule, but sneaking out a win against PS2 #7 is bad for Roseau, because they play a weaker schedule??

Who says giving up a 3-0 lead to Hopkins (who is something like 20-3-1 now) is okay?

Only you in your parallel universe.

I'm sure the Edina kids, their coach, and even the backup goaltender's mom don't think it is okay to blow a big lead.

Sheesh, Budish had to pop another shortie to get out of there with a W.

Funny how everyone beats down a team that is undefeated, Roseau is a good hockey team and so is edina, The facts are there and you can argu all day about there schedules I just hope both teams make it through the sections, because at any point each team can get loose. I would like to see both of these team in the state tourny and see them match up in the end and see the rams on top because watching them on tv I believe the rams have a deeper team with a better goalie.

Green and White Fan wrote:So sneaking out a win against PS2 #26 Hopkins is okay, because Edina plays a tough schedule, but sneaking out a win against PS2 #7 is bad for Roseau, because they play a weaker schedule??

What?

It must be a long time since Roseau has played a tough schedule.

packerboy wrote:

Green and White Fan wrote:So sneaking out a win against PS2 #26 Hopkins is okay, because Edina plays a tough schedule, but sneaking out a win against PS2 #7 is bad for Roseau, because they play a weaker schedule??

What?

It must be a long time since Roseau has played a tough schedule.

Ummm that #26 they played??? was a conf. game.

BIAFP wrote:
Give Edina the "strength of schedule" banner, trophy and medals and move on

Give the lucky winners from Roseau a Stearns snowmobile suit and live on laurels from last March. Seems you need to move on. There is one argument for having Roseau #1 and practically every ranking involving subjective criteria places it high in importance.

Your beloved Rams won the state title last March. I think everyone here knows that. It won't mean squat when they face a below-.500 team from Austin in Round 1, just like Edina's gaudy 27-2 or 28-1 record (assuming they win 2AA, which is no small task considering it isn't an easy section like 8AA or 1AA) won't help them in a tilt with Rosemount or Woodbury.

O-townClown wrote:

BIAFP wrote:
Give Edina the "strength of schedule" banner, trophy and medals and move on

Give the lucky winners from Roseau a Stearns snowmobile suit and live on laurels from last March. Seems you need to move on. There is one argument for having Roseau #1 and practically every ranking involving subjective criteria places it high in importance.

Your beloved Rams won the state title last March. I think everyone here knows that. It won't mean squat when they face a below-.500 team from Austin in Round 1, just like Edina's gaudy 27-2 or 28-1 record (assuming they win 2AA, which is no small task considering it isn't an easy section like 8AA or 1AA) won't help them in a tilt with Cretin-Derham Hall.

I agree with that..as revised.

stmartin123 wrote:

Can't Never Tried wrote:

Neutron 14 wrote: I'm not being sarcastic. Really.

Leave this argument to trained professionals. Well, except BIAFP and rams80. But there a lot of Ram faithful who aren't "drunk" with the undefeated record. Your obvious bias hurts "the cause".

If i think that Roseau isnt that great that is my opinion. Some people may say i am bias, but i honestly think that Roseau is overrated. Shoot me down all you want, but that is my honest opinion.

And you know what they say about opinions....

Sorry, couldn't help myself. Must be all the negativity in the thread.

Honestly, it's par for the course as far as "polls" by "experts" ranking teams and deriving PS2. Every year the northern teams are thought to be not that strong or deep, and quite a few of those years there's at least one of those teams in the finals. Here's to hoping a Falls/Warroad Final in A and Roseau taking the cake in AA (pun intended).

Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East won twice. Do you consider them not Northern?

O-townClown wrote:

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East won twice. Do you consider them not Northern?

I do not consider Duluth a "Northern team" in the traditional sense. I consider them Dulutherans.

No, "Northern team" to most people means small town up North, prefferably on da Range.

O-townClown wrote:

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East won twice. Do you consider them not Northern?

North of Hwy 2 is Northern

Can't Never Tried wrote:

O-townClown wrote:

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East won twice. Do you consider them not Northern?

North of Hwy 2 is Northern

I thought it was north of 494.

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East is a northern school and it was AA state champs in 1995 and 1998. Grand Rapids 1980 State Champs. In 8 of the last 10 state championships a team from the north has been in it. This is even more impressive when you consider there are proportionally a lot less AA schools in the northern part of the state. Also, the class A championship has had a lot of northern champs.

Govs93 wrote:

Can't Never Tried wrote:

O-townClown wrote: Duluth East won twice. Do you consider them not Northern?

North of Hwy 2 is Northern

I thought it was north of 494.

You Calling me a flannel brain?

Can't Never Tried wrote:

Govs93 wrote:

Can't Never Tried wrote: North of Hwy 2 is Northern

I thought it was north of 494.

You Calling me a flannel brain?

Well... you guys do have the Cabela's.

You pickin' up what I'm layin' down?!

RoseauHockeyFan wrote:

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East is a northern school and it was AA state champs in 1995 and 1998. Grand Rapids 1980 State Champs. In 8 of the last 10 state championships a team from the north has been in it. This is even more impressive when you consider there are proportionally a lot less AA schools in the northern part of the state. Also, the class A championship has had a lot of northern champs.

Don't confuse PB with the facts.

RoseauHockeyFan wrote:

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East is a northern school and it was AA state champs in 1995 and 1998..

Yah right. Duluth is 90,000+ people or so and all the hockey players are recruited to go to 2 schools. Real "up north" feel to it.

I dont care who won Class A.

packerboy wrote:

RoseauHockeyFan wrote:

packerboy wrote:Since Roseau is the only Northern team to win the AA tournament since 1980, there could be a good reason why people say these things.

Duluth East is a northern school and it was AA state champs in 1995 and 1998..

Yah right. Duluth is 90,000+ people or so and all the hockey players are recruited to go to 2 schools. Real "up north" feel to it.

I dont care who won Class A.

If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".

Neutron 14 wrote:



If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".

Won't happen and you can keep em