Posted: Mon Feb 11, 2008 2:12 pm
By whom?Neutron 14 wrote: If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".
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By whom?Neutron 14 wrote: If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".
Ah, do they have a lot of Catholics?Neutron 14 wrote:If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".packerboy wrote:Yah right. Duluth is 90,000+ people or so and all the hockey players are recruited to go to 2 schools. Real "up north" feel to it.RoseauHockeyFan wrote: Duluth East is a northern school and it was AA state champs in 1995 and 1998..
I dont care who won Class A.
Anoka is the "Halloween Capital of the World"... Pagan holiday. I don't think the Catholics are in control.packerboy wrote:Ah, do they have a lot of Catholics?Neutron 14 wrote:If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".packerboy wrote: Yah right. Duluth is 90,000+ people or so and all the hockey players are recruited to go to 2 schools. Real "up north" feel to it.
I dont care who won Class A.
Just the usual suspects....packerboy wrote:Ah, do they have a lot of Catholics?Neutron 14 wrote:If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".packerboy wrote: Yah right. Duluth is 90,000+ people or so and all the hockey players are recruited to go to 2 schools. Real "up north" feel to it.
I dont care who won Class A.
BIAFP wrote:Neutron 14 wrote:
If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".
Won't happen and you can keep em
packerboy wrote:Is this a concession?O-townClown wrote:I agree with that..as revised.BIAFP wrote:
Your beloved Rams won the state title last March. I think everyone here knows that. It won't mean squat when they face a below-.500 team from Austin in Round 1, just like Edina's gaudy 27-2 or 28-1 record (assuming they win 2AA, which is no small task considering it isn't an easy section like 8AA or 1AA) won't help them in a tilt with Cretin-Derham Hall.
There are 71 teams in AA. So packerboy - it sounds like you are suggesting that just Roseau, Grand Rapids and maybe Cloquet count as northern schools. So it's those 3 schools against the other 68 teams for who has won the most state championships?!?! Yeah, those sound like real even odds. It's like saying the NFC north doesn't have as many Superbowl victories as the rest of the NFL combined, therefore it must produce weaker teams.Neutron 14 wrote:If Anoka wins this year, you can bet your bippy that they'll be "claimed".packerboy wrote:Yah right. Duluth is 90,000+ people or so and all the hockey players are recruited to go to 2 schools. Real "up north" feel to it.RoseauHockeyFan wrote: Duluth East is a northern school and it was AA state champs in 1995 and 1998..
I dont care who won Class A.
If Roseau played down in the cities ever weekend to combat PS2 whiners then there would be only one. All we need to do is find a way to eliminate the remainder and everything will be happy in the world!Amos wrote:Are you sure Grand Rapids population doesn't disqualify them from being counted as Northern? That leaves 2.
Not every Tom, Dick and stmartin can be taken seriously.61ache wrote:And you know what they say about opinions....stmartin123 wrote: If i think that Roseau isnt that great that is my opinion. Some people may say i am bias, but i honestly think that Roseau is overrated. Shoot me down all you want, but that is my honest opinion.
Sorry, couldn't help myself. Must be all the negativity in the thread.
Honestly, it's par for the course as far as "polls" by "experts" ranking teams and deriving PS2. Every year the northern teams are thought to be not that strong or deep, and quite a few of those years there's at least one of those teams in the finals. Here's to hoping a Falls/Warroad Final in A and Roseau taking the cake in AA (pun intended).
You do all that in your youth programs then attend a private school & get the cahnce to play in the high school hockey tournament.hipcheck wrote:Finally commom sense. Neutron 14 hit the right button.
Get 20 players committed to a sport. Have a few studs to carry the load. Get the team believing in themselves. Get the extra icetime to devlelop the necessary hockey skills. Make them believe the TEAM comes first.
You will win wherever you play, North or South!
Not sure what a private school "cahnce" is but kids should stay and play for their community!Pioneerprideguy wrote:You do all that in your youth programs then attend a private school & get the cahnce to play in the high school hockey tournament.hipcheck wrote:Finally commom sense. Neutron 14 hit the right button.
Get 20 players committed to a sport. Have a few studs to carry the load. Get the team believing in themselves. Get the extra icetime to devlelop the necessary hockey skills. Make them believe the TEAM comes first.
You will win wherever you play, North or South!
Neutron 14 wrote:61ache wrote:Ah but numbers do make a difference Neut...stmartin123 wrote:
Not every Tom, Dick and stmartin can be taken seriously.![]()
The big fallicy is that somehow "northern hockey" is either inferior or superior to "city hockey", like the two are different. City teams dont get good because of numbers. They get good the same way Roseau does. Finding enough kids who put in enough time and hard work to excel at the sport. Theres nothing in Roseaus water or genetic pool that makes them good. They work hard. And THEN they go play shinny. Same with city kids.
I agree fully that a metro kid and a northern kid get better the same way by playing more and dedicating themselves to the game...
But look at it in pure math statistics, there is more of a chance that 20 top end players develop out of the 100-125 trying out at Jefferson, Burnsville, Edina, etc. than from the 25-30 that try out in Roseau. It's just that simple... Sorry its just simple math...
I would agree with your math, if all 100-125 kids are being developed, but all we know that isn't the case. The 15 A squirts in any program get better, the B's and C's not so much. Move on to Peewee's, and you might get a few kids who go from B to A. Bantams just a couple. In all these steps, there is the occasional kid whose driven to succeed, but its rare. Usually movement between them is due to the A kid falling back.DmanDad1980 wrote: Ah but numbers do make a difference Neut...
I agree fully that a metro kid and a northern kid get better the same way by playing more and dedicating themselves to the game...
But look at it in pure math statistics, there is more of a chance that 20 top end players develop out of the 100-125 trying out at Jefferson, Burnsville, Edina, etc. than from the 25-30 that try out in Roseau. It's just that simple... Sorry its just simple math...
Ahem!!!SB24 wrote:Blaine 1
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Neutron 14 wrote:I agree w/ you again Neut, but just add to it, remember there are 3 years of players (sometimes a couple freshman) to choose from at High School...DmanDad1980 wrote:
I would agree with your math, if all 100-125 kids are being developed, but all we know that isn't the case. The 15 A squirts in any program get better, the B's and C's not so much. Move on to Peewee's, and you might get a few kids who go from B to A. Bantams just a couple. In all these steps, there is the occasional kid whose driven to succeed, but its rare. Usually movement between them is due to the A kid falling back.
The numbers game is greatly exagerated. Especially for a program that doesn't have much competition from other sports for the top athletes.
Good coaching at all levels, facilites, and 15 dedicated kids and you have a hell of a program.
10 A players (Youth Program Feeders) - Senior Class
2-3 B players - Senior Class
12-13 players - Junior Class
12-13 players - Sophmore Class
2 Freshman, possibly
So, that means 36-41 top end players trying out for the High School team each year...
My thought is that easier to find more Grade A diamonds when looking at a greater number of diamonds...
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Very misleading numbers again. Year to year you have the same kids so you only need to replace what you lose to graduation. So ask yourself how many impact Seniors Roseau will lose this year. 6? 7? Thats what you need to replace.DmanDad1980 wrote: I agree w/ you again Neut, but just add to it, remember there are 3 years of players (sometimes a couple freshman) to choose from at High School...
10 A players (Youth Program Feeders) - Senior Class
2-3 B players - Senior Class
12-13 players - Junior Class
12-13 players - Sophmore Class
2 Freshman, possibly
So, that means 36-41 top end players trying out for the High School team each year...
My thought is that easier to find more Grade A diamonds when looking at a greater number of diamonds...