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Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:25 am
by elliott70
Hill may lose in the Schwans tourney, hard to say without knowing who they will face.
Odds are they will lose one or two in January.

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:31 am
by elliott70
EP and ER game will take one of them out. Neither will make it out of January.

My pick for last man standing.
Eden Prairie

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 9:32 am
by elliott70
Single A,

Luverne, gotta be Luverne.

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:40 pm
by hockeydad
EG Forks and Alexandria fall

Hill-Murray
Eden Prairie
Elk River/Zimmerman
Grand Rapids
Mankato West
Luverne
St. Cloud Cathedral

Last team to lose

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 10:57 pm
by blueblood
Mankato West is my pick

Posted: Sat Dec 14, 2013 11:19 pm
by karl(east)
Grand Rapids lost yesterday, too.

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 8:13 am
by HShockeywatcher
Well, EGF lost.
So, Hill in AA, Luverne in A and overall it is.

Posted: Sun Dec 15, 2013 4:35 pm
by hockeydad
HSHW... I fell prey to minnnesota-scores.net just like you. Take grand rapids off the list

Hill-Murray
Eden Prairie
Elk River/Zimmerman
Mankato West
Luverne
St. Cloud Cathedral

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 1:04 pm
by curtiscurve
Eden Prairie will be the next to fall on 12/19 to Elk River

My guess is the rest will fall in this order....
Elk River 12/21 (Grand Rapids)
Luverne 12/21 (Achiever Academy)
Mankato West 12/27 (Duluth Marshall)
Hill Murray 12/28 (Gold Championship probably vs St. Thomas)
Which leaves the last undefeated team.........
St. Cloud Cathedral who won't make it long into 2014. 1/3 (East Grand Forks)

Posted: Mon Dec 16, 2013 4:00 pm
by alcloseshaver
Elk River will lose to EP or Edina in the classic. Grand Rapids will be playing their 4th game of the week when they meet ER and I would think ER will handle them this year at the Classic.

Posted: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:50 am
by Ref190
Go Hill!!!

Posted: Thu Dec 19, 2013 8:41 pm
by edgeless2
ER/Zimmerman loses 3-1 to EP. That being said, EP has not beaten Edina in this Tourney since 2005 which is amazing since they have won 2 state titles since then.

Posted: Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:38 pm
by hockeydad
As of right now:

Hill-Murray
Eden Prairie
Mankato West
Luverne
St. Cloud Cathedral

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 7:09 pm
by hockey9011
St. Cloud cathedral is the next team to fall. Lost to Sauk rapids rice today

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:39 pm
by hockeydad
Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 9:54 pm
by notTONIGHT
hockeydad wrote:Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday
So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.


Understood.......

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:09 pm
by PuckRanger
notTONIGHT wrote:
hockeydad wrote:Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday
So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.


Understood.......
It is a widely accepted fact that all tournament shootout wins are considered ties, and in fact are officially considered a tie by the MSHSL. The shootout is only allowed to advance a winner for the sake of the tournament bracket, not for win/loss records.

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:17 pm
by HShockeywatcher
Looking over the thread, blueblood is the only one with a possible correct prediction. And right now it seems West has a pretty good shot of making it all the way, or at least one more day.

Unbeaten/Untied

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 10:35 pm
by blueblood
I finally may win some bragging rights from all the contests I enter on this dang message board 8).

Posted: Thu Dec 26, 2013 11:03 pm
by notTONIGHT
PuckRanger wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:
hockeydad wrote:Luverne tied STMA today, 1-1. They won the shootout to advance in the tournament, but officially it goes as a tie, so scratch the Cardinals off the list. Also, Eden Prairie lost Dec. 21, and again today

That leaves two
Class AA - Hill Murray 8-0, faces Minnetonka Friday
Class A - Mankato West 10-0, faces Appleton East (WI) Friday
So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.


Understood.......
It is a widely accepted fact that all tournament shootout wins are considered ties, and in fact are officially considered a tie by the MSHSL. The shootout is only allowed to advance a winner for the sake of the tournament bracket, not for win/loss records.
A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 12:19 am
by PuckRanger
notTONIGHT wrote:
PuckRanger wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote: So when a team plays in a tournament with crystal clear rules set in place for a winner and a loser, and one team clearly wins according to the rules, its not a win.


Understood.......
It is a widely accepted fact that all tournament shootout wins are considered ties, and in fact are officially considered a tie by the MSHSL. The shootout is only allowed to advance a winner for the sake of the tournament bracket, not for win/loss records.
A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.
Unfortunate... maybe. But this is not a new thing - its been around for ages - both teams and coaches were well aware of this, so they really did not complete expectations if their goal was to post a "W" on their record.

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:35 am
by andovercw
Stop whining NotTonight! Everyone knows, including you, it goes down as a tie. I watched your cards and have to say I wasn't too impressed. They play a middle of the road cities team and couldn't do anything offensively. 1 player stood out and that was your defenseman 22. He didn't lack much and made up what he did with swag.

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 8:50 am
by InYourFace09
andovercw wrote:Stop whining NotTonight! Everyone knows, including you, it goes down as a tie. I watched your cards and have to say I wasn't too impressed. They play a middle of the road cities team and couldn't do anything offensively. 1 player stood out and that was your defenseman 22. He didn't lack much and made up what he did with swag.

You do realize that only tournament games go to shootouts right? Not every regular season game goes to a shootout which is why it is considered a TIE. Your Cards still have 0 losses.... be happy.

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:08 am
by Traxler
notTONIGHT wrote:A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.
How is a tie negative?

Posted: Fri Dec 27, 2013 9:46 am
by hockeydad
Traxler wrote:
notTONIGHT wrote:A team that knows what is expected of it, completes expectations, ends up with negative notch on its record.

Universally accepted or not. Unfortunate.
How is a tie negative?
The saying goes, a tie is like kissing your sister. Traxler.... you must have a pretty good looking sister :wink: