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Elvis wrote:I think Hutch gets the one seed due to head-to-head competition, which is/should be the first criteria when seeding any section.

letsgowild wrote:

Elvis wrote:I think Hutch gets the one seed due to head-to-head competition, which is/should be the first criteria when seeding any section.

willmar should get one seed then, because they beat hutch

jpv wrote:

hock1 wrote:I have a couple things to comment on:
-ClassicHockey: you've made a couple good arguements of why YOU think the teams in this section can't play. But here's some more numbers to prove to you that the top couple teams here can play. Sure, sartell lost to Alex 0-9, but two days before NU beat then ranked Sartell 3-1, sartell tied alex 3-3 in alexandria. You must have forgotten that huh? Here's another one for ya. You said that lourdes is in the list of top class A team's? I'll agree with that. Too bad they just lost to Albert Lea, who lost to Winona, who got beat by NEW ULM. quote]

Sadly, the transitive property doesn't work in sports. If Team A beats Team B, and then Team B beats Team C, this doesn't mean that Team A will automatically beat Team C. Sports simply do not work that way. If, for example, New Ulm had actually beaten both Sartell and Alexandria, then you'd have a solid argument.

I won't argue with that. My whole point in this arguement isn't to say that New Ulm (or any other top team in the sec) can beat anyone because they beat that one team who beat some other top team. I'm just trying to point out that they can skate with the GOOD teams out there. I just wanna point out we're not useless. We can play good hockey.

golfer5 wrote:Can some one explain to me how the bracketing and seeding is decided?
BY whom? and criteria used?

goldy313 wrote:It's tough to compare New Ulm to anybody because as stated the A beat B and B beat C so A must be better than C argument is so flawed, but with New Ulm that's just about all anyone has to go with, to make matters worse New Ulms toughest opponents probably aren't even from Minnesota.

Here's some food for thought though:
New Ulm 8 Northfield 1, Northfield isn't very good but they lost 5-2 to both Lourdes and Albert Lea and 5-0 to Roseau. In fairness West beat them by 8 and Red Wing by 10, but at least comparable to what New Ulm did to the Raiders

Superior 4 New Ulm 2 (eng); Superior beat Cloquet 5-2, Denfeld 7-2 lost to Duluth East 4-2. Denfeld lost in overtime to Warroad, Hibbing, and Duluth Marshall. Along with 1 goal regulation losses to Virginia and SCC.

#1 Little Falls 9 Faribault 4, New Ulm 8 Faribault 2

Whether New Ulm wins or doesn't win 3A isn't really my issue, what is is that "because New Ulm is in 3A they're not deserving" bothers me though. At the very least New Ulm is comparable to any of the top teams in 1A at the very least and just about every other section as well.

Koolice wrote:NU 3 - Dodge County 1, That doesn't help NU much they should crush a team like that. I am going to say that Hutch is the # 1 team in the sec. We will find out next week what the coaches have to say. What day do the seedings come out?

pipesniper07 wrote:hutch also just played prior lake on thursday night and beat them 8-2.

iced_out99 wrote:If only NU and Hutch played eachother more than once..then we would know who is #1...if the two teams played now i think it would be one good game...it will interesting to see if the two will play eachother in sections.

golfer5 wrote:1. New Ulm Playing great
2. Hutch Not as good a New Ulm
3. Redwood Good record won the conference
4. Willmar cause they have a tough schedule
5. Windom playing together as of late
6.Litchfield Lost 6 of last 7
7.Marshall Struggling of late
8.Luverne
9. Worthington
10. Fairmont
11. Sleepyeye
Heres my pickes before it comes out.

hock1 wrote:

golfer5 wrote:1. New Ulm Playing great
2. Hutch Not as good a New Ulm
3. Redwood Good record won the conference
4. Willmar cause they have a tough schedule
5. Windom playing together as of late
6.Litchfield Lost 6 of last 7
7.Marshall Struggling of late
8.Luverne
9. Worthington
10. Fairmont
11. Sleepyeye
Heres my pickes before it comes out.

I agree with most of this, but personally i think your off on a couple things. First of all. It's not fair to say that hutch is not as good as NU. NU is my #1 because they are hot right now. I still couldn't tell you that one of them would beat the other. Also, i hope coaches aren't looking necessarily at records to rank these teams. I'm not gonna take away from Redwood's great season, but Willmar is better. People need to remember they beat hutch and lost by one to NU. They just have the toughest schedule in the section. Here's how i have it:
1. New Ulm: one of the hottest teams in the state. Ranked in the top tweny on many sites. Plus not many people realize there goaltending has been solid. Look for him to play well in the playoffs and make a difference
2. Hutchinson: Good team. Also good goaltending. Have struggled defensively some games recently and is why they are losing more than they should be.
3. Willmar: much better team than record shows. No standouts, but a good, well-positioned team. Need some more consistency.
4. Redwood Valley: Good record. Weak schedule main reason. But they are a much improved team this year. They just don't have what the top three teams do: Deep in talent and goaltending is missing.
5:Marshall: Only because they have held there own against Redwood. Need some more scoring.
6. Litchfield: a scrappy, good hitting team. Plus, defending champs. Can't rule them out so early.
7. Luverne: they lean too heavily on paquette to do much damage.
8. Windom: Not as good of team as some think they are. But we'll see on thursday when they play at home against NU
9. Worthington
10. Fairmont
11. Sleepy Eye

Remember folks. Goaltending wins it for teams. Just look at Litch last year. NU and Hutch have the best goaltending this year. That's main reason why they are my two top teams.