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Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:35 pm
by TheHockeyDJ
1 BENILDE-ST. MARGARET'S
2 Edina
3 Eden Prairie
4 Minnetonka
5 Duluth East
6 Hill-Murray
7 Burnsville
8 Eagan
9 Blaine
10 Grand Rapids
11 Wayzata
12 Andover
13 Maple Grove
14 Moorhead
15 Roseau
16 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
17 Elk River/Zimmerman
18 White Bear Lake
19 Holy Family Catholic
20 Prior Lake
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:57 pm
by BodyShots
Gotta give them credit. Looks legit to me this early in the season.
Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:49 pm
by clutterbuck22
TheHockeyDJ wrote:1 BENILDE-ST. MARGARET'S
2 Edina
3 Eden Prairie
4 Minnetonka
5 Duluth East
6 Hill-Murray
7 Burnsville
8 Eagan
9 Blaine
10 Grand Rapids
11 Wayzata
12 Andover
13 Maple Grove
14 Moorhead
15 Roseau
16 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
17 Elk River/Zimmerman
18 White Bear Lake
19 Holy Family Catholic
20 Prior Lake
Receiving votes: Lakeville North, Lakeville South, Centennial, Bloomington Jefferson, Stillwater Area, Roseville Area, Brainerd, Bemidji, Apple Valley, Holy Angels, Woodbury, Mounds View, Cretin-Derham Hall, Hopkins, Rochester Mayo
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:31 am
by HockeyGuy952
I think Minnetonka will have a tough time keeping their spot in the rankings
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:51 am
by old goalie85
Andover should be higher.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:58 am
by TheHockeyDJ
I like where Andover is at. They need to prove to me they are more than a goalie that can handle all the shots a lousy defense allows. Cloquet should be higher, and they'll move up in a hurry. People don't realize just how good their top line will be. I think they'll be better than the line of Karlsson-Johnson-Jokenin from 06-07. I think Grand Rapids is in the right place. On paper they can compete with anyone, but after last years loss to Forest Lake and home loss to Hibbing down the stretch I question their work ethic and desire. The difference this year is Hunter Shepard might be enough to bail them out when the rest of the team puts in a half-assed effort. If Elk River can get good goaltending they will compete for a seed in the top 3.
Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 11:15 am
by scorekeeper
LPH wrote:1 BENILDE-ST. MARGARET'S
2 Edina
3 Eden Prairie
4 Minnetonka
5 Duluth East
6 Hill-Murray
7 Burnsville
8 Eagan
9 Blaine
10 Grand Rapids
11 Wayzata
12 Andover
13 Maple Grove
14 Moorhead
15 Roseau
16 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
17 Elk River/Zimmerman
18 White Bear Lake
19 Holy Family Catholic
20 Prior Lake
Pre-Season Rankings turned out pretty close. Here's a comparison of closing rankings through the completion of the regular season for Class AA ...
Final LPH Final Regular Season Rankings Class AA
http://www.letsplayhockey.com/teams/hig ... kings.html
The Top 4 Teams ...
1. Hill-Murray (22-2-1)
2. Benilde-St. Margaret’s (20-5)
3. Duluth East (21-4)
4. Eagan (21-3-1)
The next 4 ...
5. Minnetonka (18-6-1)
6. Edina (19-6)
7. Blaine (19-5-1)
8. Wayzata (18-7)
Rounding out the Top 10 ...
9. Grand Rapids (17-4-3)
10. Eden Prairie (12-12-1)
Rounding out the Top 20 ...
11. Centennial
12. Burnsville
13. Prior Lake
14. Bloomington Jefferson
15. Elk River/Zimmerman
16. Cretin-Derham Hall
17. Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
18. White Bear Lake
19. Holy Family Catholic
20. Tartan
Mnhockeyrankings.com Final Regular Season Top 20 Class AA
http://mnhockeyrankings.com/
The Top 4 Teams ...
1. Hill Murray
2. Benilde St Margarets
3. Eagan
4. Edina
The next 4 ...
5. Minnetonka
6. Duluth East
7. Wayzata
8. Blaine
Rounding out the Top 10 ...
9. Burnsville
10. Grand Rapids
Rounding out the Top 20 ...
11. Eden Prairie
12. Bloomington Jefferson
13. Prior Lake
14. Cloquet
15. Holy Family Catholic
16. Centennial
17. White Bear Lake
18. Elk River
19. Roseau
20. Cretin Durham Hall
Karl's Final Regular Season Rankings (mnhockeyprospects.com)
http://mnhockeyprospects.com/2013/02/17 ... t-preview/
The Top 4 Teams ...
1. Hill-Murray (22-2-1)
2. Benilde-St. Margaret’s (20-5)
3. Duluth East (21-4)
4. Eagan (21-3-1)
The next 4 ...
5. Minnetonka (18-6-1)
6. Edina (19-6)
7. Blaine (19-5-1)
8. Wayzata (18-7)
Rounding out the Top 10 ...
9. Grand Rapids (17-4-3)
10. Eden Prairie (12-12-1)
Rounding out the Top 20 ...
11. Centennial (19-4-2)
12. Burnsville (15-9-1)
13. Bloomington Jefferson (16-9)
14. Prior Lake (16-9)
15. Elk River (15-10)
16. Cretin-Derham Hall (16-8-1)
17. White Bear Lake (15-9-1)
18. Holy Family (18-7)
19. Maple Grove (14-11)
20. Eastview (15-9-1)
Rounding out the Top 25 ...
21. Tartan (20-4-1)
22. Roseau (16-8-1)
23. Cloquet (15-8-2)
24. Moorhead (11-11-2)
25. Forest Lake (15-10)
Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:36 pm
by karl(east)
scorekeeper wrote:LPH wrote:1 BENILDE-ST. MARGARET'S
2 Edina
3 Eden Prairie
4 Minnetonka
5 Duluth East
6 Hill-Murray
7 Burnsville
8 Eagan
9 Blaine
10 Grand Rapids
11 Wayzata
12 Andover
13 Maple Grove
14 Moorhead
15 Roseau
16 Cloquet/Esko/Carlton
17 Elk River/Zimmerman
18 White Bear Lake
19 Holy Family Catholic
20 Prior Lake
Pre-Season Rankings turned out pretty close.
Indeed they did. To LPH's credit, they seem to be getting better at this. Their preseason rankings certainly outperformed mine. I'd like to think I did a better job of responding in-season than they did, but I'll do a more proper review after the Tourney. The rankings they put out this week are virtually identical to mine from Sunday.
Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 2:43 pm
by scorekeeper
karl(east) wrote:
I'd like to think I did a better job of responding in-season than they did
Yes. I agree 100% with this. You were much more responsive to the actual results.
karl(east) wrote:
The rankings they put out this week are virtually identical to mine from Sunday.
This did not go unnoticed as well. You were out in front with these, and they did indeed follow suit. I would think you earned some influence over the season

Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:05 pm
by karl(east)
scorekeeper wrote:karl(east) wrote:
I'd like to think I did a better job of responding in-season than they did
Yes. I agree 100% with this. You were much more responsive to the actual results.
karl(east) wrote:
The rankings they put out this week are virtually identical to mine from Sunday.
This did not go unnoticed as well. You were out in front with these, and they did indeed follow suit. I would think you earned some influence over the season

I can dream, can't I? It's hard to know who reads them and who doesn't, and how much stock people put in them. (To the extent that any of us put any real stock in something like a ranking, of course...I have no delusions of grandeur here.) From what I've gathered over the years, some people in the media enjoy perusing this forum and some of the insights that come out of it, while others dismiss it out of hand. All I can really do is keep on putting out the rankings and trying to win converts.

Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:16 pm
by scorekeeper
karl(east) wrote:
I can dream, can't I? It's hard to know who reads them and who doesn't, and how much stock people put in them. (To the extent that any of us put any real stock in something like a ranking, of course...I have no delusions of grandeur here.) From what I've gathered over the years, some people in the media enjoy perusing this forum and some of the insights that come out of it, while others dismiss it out of hand. All I can really do is keep on putting out the rankings and trying to win converts.

To that extent, this was a nice home for them
http://mnhockeyprospects.com/2013/02/17 ... t-preview/
Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:30 pm
by karl(east)
scorekeeper wrote:karl(east) wrote:
I can dream, can't I? It's hard to know who reads them and who doesn't, and how much stock people put in them. (To the extent that any of us put any real stock in something like a ranking, of course...I have no delusions of grandeur here.) From what I've gathered over the years, some people in the media enjoy perusing this forum and some of the insights that come out of it, while others dismiss it out of hand. All I can really do is keep on putting out the rankings and trying to win converts.

To that extent, this was a nice home for them
http://mnhockeyprospects.com/2013/02/17 ... t-preview/
Yes, working with MNHockeyProspects for these past two seasons has been great--it's a very nice platform for the rankings, and it comes with other perks (namely, a spot in the press box at State). It's also been fun to be part of a growing website on MN hockey. Speaking of which...it was good to see the report on some big news out of Eagan today!
Re: Let's Play Hockey Pre-Season Rankings
Posted: Thu Feb 21, 2013 3:33 pm
by scorekeeper
karl(east) wrote:
Yes, working with MNHockeyProspects for these past two seasons has been great--it's a very nice platform for the rankings, and it comes with other perks (namely, a spot in the press box at State). It's also been fun to be part of a growing website on MN hockey. Speaking of which...it was good to see the report on some big news out of Eagan today!
Yup. We are all very happy for Zach. Excellent that he will be joining Will Merchant at Maine, another former Mr. Hockey candidtate from Eagan.
I should probably start a thread on that ...