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Early departures: 2016-17
Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2016 1:29 pm
by dueling21
Well, it's time to start the annual thread of who's moving on before they graduate from high school hockey. Not to steal from The Exiled One, but here's his past lists:
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Re: Early departures: 2016-17
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:44 pm
by karl(east)
Getting this rolling...anyone out there with more details?
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Class Pos Player HS Team New Team College
Sr F Ryan Poehling Lakeville North St. Cloud State St. Cloud State
So F Trevor Janicke Maple Grove NTDP Notre Dame
Jr F Jaxon Nelson Luverne USHL-Sioux Falls Minnesota
Sr F Marko Reifenberger Hill-Murray Bloomington-USHL
Jr F Dylan Mills Hill-Murray TBD
Sr F Cameron Buhl South St. Paul Minnesota-NAHL
Sr D Hank Sorensen Wayzata Waterloo-USHL
Jr D K'Andre Miller Minnetonka NTDP Wisconsin
So G Ryan Ullan Hibbing NTDP
Jr G Keegan Karki St. Cloud Cathedral NTDP North Dakota
Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:09 pm
by WestMetro
Karl, thats what I know is announced.
I have heard 2 more fairly certain, and 6 more under consideration although some of that is dated info...
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:32 am
by BP
I know 2 more. Can I post it?
Posted: Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:54 pm
by karl(east)
BP wrote:I know 2 more. Can I post it?
If you're sure about them, go ahead.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 9:01 am
by NORTHWOODS HOCKEY
Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:03 pm
by hunting247
NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Sibell was a classic example of peaking early
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 1:39 pm
by thespellchecker
hunting247 wrote:NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Sibell was a classic example of peaking early
Did that feel good?
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 2:01 pm
by hunting247
thespellchecker wrote:hunting247 wrote:NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Sibell was a classic example of peaking early
Did that feel good?
Yep
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 4:03 pm
by kniven
NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
That's too bad for the Bluejackets.....
Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2016 11:42 pm
by 4on5again
hunting247 wrote:thespellchecker wrote:hunting247 wrote:
Sibell was a classic example of peaking early
Did that feel good?
Yep
Not sure why you'd be a hater. The Minnesota high school hockey model has its cons for sure. I love MN HS hockey, but it is in an ivory tower. Do a little research and you'll see that this program (and others like it) will continue to prep elite players that thrive at the next level. They make their money proving you wrong. As always, Omaha is getting some horses.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 6:40 am
by zamboniexhaustinhaler
NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Today's youth sports world: It's all about me.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:59 am
by 10minutemajor
zamboniexhaustinhaler wrote:NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Today's youth sports world: It's all about me.
Well at certain point I'm not sure who else you think it should be about. And before you blow a gasket, I'm not saying it should ever "be all about me" when you are ON a team. But should kids in programs or situations that might not bode well for their development to stay there anyway -- for everyone else? (Seriously -- would another kid stay behind for them? I doubt it.) Or, should they pursue the avenue they believe will help them achieve their goals. If you don't look out for yourself, no else is going to do it for you.
That being said, jerking the team, coaches and other families around for years with your indecisiveness is not the way to go about things.
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:14 pm
by zamboniexhaustinhaler
10minutemajor wrote:zamboniexhaustinhaler wrote:NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Today's youth sports world: It's all about me.
Well at certain point I'm not sure who else you think it should be about. And before you blow a gasket, I'm not saying it should ever "be all about me" when you are ON a team. But should kids in programs or situations that might not bode well for their development to stay there anyway -- for everyone else? (Seriously -- would another kid stay behind for them? I doubt it.) Or, should they pursue the avenue they believe will help them achieve their goals. If you don't look out for yourself, no else is going to do it for you.
That being said, jerking the team, coaches and other families around for years with your indecisiveness is not the way to go about things.
Blow a gasket ? Why ?
I've made my opinion on the subject made.
I have no desire to change anyone's opinion, and am not naive enough to feel my opinion will change anything either.
It is what it is.
Which is a shame.
<g>
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 1:20 pm
by NORTHWOODS HOCKEY
10minutemajor wrote:zamboniexhaustinhaler wrote:NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:Cambridge/Isanti's goalie left the program for the 2nd time. He is going to play club/AAA hockey in Omaha. It leaves their HS program and 26 skaters with out a goalie.
Today's youth sports world: It's all about me.
Well at certain point I'm not sure who else you think it should be about. And before you blow a gasket, I'm not saying it should ever "be all about me" when you are ON a team. But should kids in programs or situations that might not bode well for their development to stay there anyway -- for everyone else? (Seriously -- would another kid stay behind for them? I doubt it.) Or, should they pursue the avenue they believe will help them achieve their goals. If you don't look out for yourself, no else is going to do it for you.
That being said, jerking the team, coaches and other families around for years with your indecisiveness is not the way to go about things.
I don't have any issue with parents doing what they think is best for their child. A person just hopes they are doing it for the right reasons.
As far as no one is or was going to look out for the young man, that is not exactly true, both coaches he played for at CI, bent over backwards for the young man and family. There are many who feel this year would have been a perfect year for the young man to get his game back, considering he played JV last year and didn't make it out of the sections HP.
Not saying that the family should make decisions based on what is good for others, but it certainly is a bad/sad deal for the HS, a very good young coach and 26 skaters.
I am not sure if 4on5 has the correct team in Omaha, but if he/she does, then the definition of "Elite" and "horses" could be questioned.
Re: Early departures: 2016-17
Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2016 2:20 pm
by karl(east)
Updated full list...a few others pending but we'll wait till actual confirmation.
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Class Pos Player HS Team New Team College
Sr F Ryan Poehling Lakeville North St. Cloud State St. Cloud State
So F Trevor Janicke Maple Grove NTDP Notre Dame
Jr F Jaxon Nelson Luverne USHL-Sioux Falls Minnesota
Sr F Marko Reifenberger Hill-Murray Bloomington-USHL
Jr F Dylan Mills Hill-Murray TBD
Sr F Isaac Johnson Anoka Des Moines-USHL
Sr F Cameron Buhl South St. Paul Minnesota-NAHL
Sr D Hank Sorensen Wayzata Waterloo-USHL
Jr D K'Andre Miller Minnetonka NTDP Wisconsin
So G Ryan Ullan Hibbing NTDP
Jr G Keegan Karki St. Cloud Cathedral NTDP North Dakota
Jr G Jacob Sibell Cambridge-Isanti Omaha-AAA
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 2:51 am
by zamboniexhaustinhaler
NORTHWOODS HOCKEY wrote:10minutemajor wrote:zamboniexhaustinhaler wrote:
Today's youth sports world: It's all about me.
Well at certain point I'm not sure who else you think it should be about. And before you blow a gasket, I'm not saying it should ever "be all about me" when you are ON a team. But should kids in programs or situations that might not bode well for their development to stay there anyway -- for everyone else? (Seriously -- would another kid stay behind for them? I doubt it.) Or, should they pursue the avenue they believe will help them achieve their goals. If you don't look out for yourself, no else is going to do it for you.
That being said, jerking the team, coaches and other families around for years with your indecisiveness is not the way to go about things.
I don't have any issue with parents doing what they think is best for their child. A person just hopes they are doing it for the right reasons.
As far as no one is or was going to look out for the young man, that is not exactly true, both coaches he played for at CI, bent over backwards for the young man and family. There are many who feel this year would have been a perfect year for the young man to get his game back,
considering he played JV last year and didn't make it out of the sections HP.
Not saying that the family should make decisions based on what is good for others, but it certainly is a bad/sad deal for the HS, a very good young coach and 26 skaters.
I am not sure if 4on5 has the correct team in Omaha, but if he/she does, then the definition of "Elite" and "horses" could be questioned.
Perhaps the common situation, usually from the parents, of "This coach doesn't realize how good my kid is. We'll put him in x program (almost always, a pay to play) and show them" ?
Don't know, but have seen it numerous times.
Not once did it pan out.
Parents money to burn though, so whatever.
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:19 am
by ndirishfighting
Payton Madison & Nikolai Jenson River Lakes to AAA Omaha
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2016 9:43 am
by imlisteningtothefnsong
That is a great move by those two boys. David Wilkie is a great coach who will challenge them far more than the River Lakes system. Both are skilled players making a great decision.
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 4:44 pm
by minnscout
Add Connor Mayer (Sioux City) and Ryan Bischel (Fargo) to the list.
Posted: Fri Aug 05, 2016 6:35 pm
by BP
Add Clay Phillips - Fargo of USHL. Has to start becoming a bit of concern in Hornet land....
Re: Early departures: 2016-17
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 4:25 pm
by karl(east)
Another update:
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Class Pos Player HS Team New Team College
Sr F Ryan Poehling Lakeville North St. Cloud State St. Cloud State
So F Trevor Janicke Maple Grove NTDP Notre Dame
Jr F Jaxon Nelson Luverne USHL-Sioux Falls Minnesota
Sr F Marko Reifenberger Hill-Murray Bloomington-USHL
Jr F Dylan Mills Hill-Murray TBD
Sr F Isaac Johnson Anoka Des Moines-USHL
Sr F Cameron Buhl South St. Paul Minnesota-NAHL
So F Payton Madison River Lakes Omaha-AAA
Sr D Hank Sorensen Wayzata Waterloo-USHL
Jr D K'Andre Miller Minnetonka NTDP Wisconsin
Jr D Clayton Phillips Edina Fargo-USHL Minnesota
Sr D Connor Mayer Benilde Sioux City-USHL UConn
So D Nikolai Jenson River Lakes Omaha-AAA
So G Ryan Ullan Hibbing NTDP
Jr G Keegan Karki St. Cloud Cathedral NTDP North Dakota
Jr G Jacob Sibell Cambridge-Isanti Omaha-AAA
Sr G Ryan Bischel Benilde Fargo-USHL
Sr G Parker Swanson Hopkins Chicago Fury-AAA
Not surprised by Phillips, but somewhat surprised by the Benilde defections. Now it's *really* going to be a rebuilding year for the Red Knights.
Posted: Sat Aug 06, 2016 7:58 pm
by Nuts&Bolts
Are some of these listed premature? Just because a kid is on a USHL roster doesn't mean there gone unless it's a tender situation like Nelson. IF some of these end up on the final roster do you know they aren't doing the before and after? I know one on the list and my understanding is he has not decided what he'll do in November.
Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2016 1:31 pm
by karl(east)
Nuts&Bolts wrote:Are some of these listed premature? Just because a kid is on a USHL roster doesn't mean there gone unless it's a tender situation like Nelson. IF some of these end up on the final roster do you know they aren't doing the before and after? I know one on the list and my understanding is he has not decided what he'll do in November.
If you think someone shouldn't be on here, let me know (via PM, if you prefer). In most cases here I'm pretty sure, and if a player's committed to the USHL and not on an Elite League roster it's pretty clear there's some sort of agreement, but that doesn't mean there isn't some bad information floating around out there.
Posted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 1:07 pm
by hunting247
4on5again wrote:hunting247 wrote:thespellchecker wrote:
Did that feel good?
Yep
Not sure why you'd be a hater. The Minnesota high school hockey model has its cons for sure. I love MN HS hockey, but it is in an ivory tower. Do a little research and you'll see that this program (and others like it) will continue to prep elite players that thrive at the next level. They make their money proving you wrong. As always, Omaha is getting some horses.
Horses
