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Who wins?

If Slammer was here, he'd say "CEC...easily!"

But yeah, Cloquet. Right now playing the 2nd best hockey in the section.

Lee

But the game is in Forest Lake in the afternoon after a week of screwed up schedules.

I think CEC will be lucky to keep it in stop time.
(J/K Ken)

This game is for the 3rd seed

elliott70 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 12:50 pm But the game is in Forest Lake in the afternoon after a week of screwed up schedules.

I think CEC will be lucky to keep it in stop time.
(J/K Ken)

It’s been rescheduled for 7PM

Usthockey13 wrote: ↑Thu Jan 31, 2019 1:28 pm This game is for the 3rd seed

Yep

Wow, how far has 7AA fallen when they are talking about Flake being a 3 seed in February.

Name 1 decent team that Flake has beaten! I just looked at their schedule and saw non-conference games against Chisago Lakes, St. Francis, and Irondale. Pathetic.

BodyShots wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:53 am Wow, how far has 7AA fallen when they are talking about Flake being a 3 seed in February.

Name 1 decent team that Flake has beaten! I just looked at their schedule and saw non-conference games against Chisago Lakes, St. Francis, and Irondale. Pathetic.

And I keep hearing the QRF will correct things by the end of the season. I'm really starting to doubt that. If Forest Lake played Rapid's or East's schedule they'd be 1-24 with most of their losses by 10 or more goals. They have no right be considered for anything other than the 6 or 7 seed.

BodyShots wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 8:53 am Wow, how far has 7AA fallen when they are talking about Flake being a 3 seed in February.

Name 1 decent team that Flake has beaten! I just looked at their schedule and saw non-conference games against Chisago Lakes, St. Francis, and Irondale. Pathetic.

FLake is not a good team but if they win out or win most including CEC they may get a shot at 3.
Elk River needs to win their easy(?) games to have a shot at 4.

GRapids and DMarshall have no shot (Rapids wins 3 of their last 4 they may have an argument but they could very well lose all 4).

So its not a question of FLake being good enough it is a question of 7AA not being very good.

page stat
4 Andover
14 Cloquet
15 Duluth East
35 Elk River
43 Forest Lake
44 Grand Rapids
61 Duluth Marshall
110 St Francis
140 Cambrdige

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:15 am page stat
4 Andover
14 Cloquet
15 Duluth East
35 Elk River
43 Forest Lake
44 Grand Rapids
61 Duluth Marshall
110 St Francis
140 Cambrdige

QRF

No. 4 Andover (120.5)
No. 13 Duluth East (102.3)
No. 30 C-E-C (76.6)
No. 31 Forest Lake (75.4)
No. 37 Elk River/Zimmerman (66.0)
No. 49 Grand Rapids (54.6)
No. 53 Duluth Marshall (50.6)
No. 58 St. Francis (46.0)
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (18.4)


Lets see how the CEC Flake game effects this. The Flake DM game could change this even more.

That guy for that thing wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:18 am

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:15 am page stat
4 Andover
14 Cloquet
15 Duluth East
35 Elk River
43 Forest Lake
44 Grand Rapids
61 Duluth Marshall
110 St Francis
140 Cambrdige

QRF

No. 4 Andover (120.5)
No. 13 Duluth East (102.3)
No. 30 C-E-C (76.6)
No. 31 Forest Lake (75.4)
No. 37 Elk River/Zimmerman (66.0)
No. 49 Grand Rapids (54.6)
No. 53 Duluth Marshall (50.6)
No. 58 St. Francis (46.0)
No. 69 Cambridge-Isanti (18.4)


Lets see how the CEC Flake game effects this. The Flake DM game could change this even more.

Exactly, like people are saying let QRF shake out.

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:15 am page stat
4 Andover
14 Cloquet
15 Duluth East
35 Elk River
43 Forest Lake
44 Grand Rapids
61 Duluth Marshall
110 St Francis
140 Cambrdige

GR and FL would be close enough that GR would leapfrog them on the head-to-head tiebreaker

TheHockeyDJ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:30 am

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:15 am page stat
4 Andover
14 Cloquet
15 Duluth East
35 Elk River
43 Forest Lake
44 Grand Rapids
61 Duluth Marshall
110 St Francis
140 Cambrdige

GR and FL would be close enough that GR would leapfrog them on the head-to-head tiebreaker

This is page stat, currently QRF is approximately 20 point spread. GR probably needs to win some and FLAKE lose a lot for that to get to wherever the point difference will end up being to use the tie breaker..
Not impossible but not highly probable.

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:41 am

TheHockeyDJ wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:30 am

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 10:15 am page stat
4 Andover
14 Cloquet
15 Duluth East
35 Elk River
43 Forest Lake
44 Grand Rapids
61 Duluth Marshall
110 St Francis
140 Cambrdige

GR and FL would be close enough that GR would leapfrog them on the head-to-head tiebreaker

This is page stat, currently QRF is approximately 20 point spread. GR probably needs to win some and FLAKE lose a lot for that to get to wherever the point difference will end up being to use the tie breaker..
Not impossible but not highly probable.

I said that in reference to the pagestat.

The problem with QRF as I understand it is that your wins qualify for higher points as the teams you beat also do well, which if this is the case I am lost as to what way the QRF is calculating Forest Lake with such a ridiculous and embarrassingly high number. I hope after this season that the coaches go back to the Hinckley meeting or switch to Pagestat.

Yes, coaches vote would seem the way to go.
Odds are against page stat.

It would be nice if everyone played everyone or at least a large percentage of the teams in the same section.

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:55 am It would be nice if everyone played everyone or at least a large percentage of the teams in the same section.

CEC plays Rapids and East 2 each=4 games. And never play Elk River and no more Andover.

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:54 am Yes, coaches vote would seem the way to go.
Odds are against page stat.

And we saw how pathetic the coach vote resulted a couple of years ago. When you have coaches that manipulate the system, you have to go with QRF. Let is play out and you will see Flake down where they belong.

BodyShots wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 3:57 pm

elliott70 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 01, 2019 11:54 am Yes, coaches vote would seem the way to go.
Odds are against page stat.

And we saw how pathetic the coach vote resulted a couple of years ago. When you have coaches that manipulate the system, you have to go with QRF. Let is play out and you will see Flake down where they belong.

I want East in the final, but that’s unlikely. I’m not saying Cloquet would win. I just want to see it.

You all seem to be forgetting Andover.
It is going to be an East, Andover Final

Mnnstar wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:44 am You all seem to be forgetting Andover.
It is going to be an East, Andover Final

Forest lake 1 CEC 0 second period 2 minutes in. SOG 8-6

kniven wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:04 pm

Mnnstar wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:44 am You all seem to be forgetting Andover.
It is going to be an East, Andover Final

Forest lake 1 CEC 0 second period 2 minutes in. SOG 8-6

Tied at 2 late in the 2nd.

kniven wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:21 pm

kniven wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 8:04 pm

Mnnstar wrote: ↑Sat Feb 02, 2019 7:44 am You all seem to be forgetting Andover.
It is going to be an East, Andover Final

Forest lake 1 CEC 0 second period 2 minutes in. SOG 8-6

Tied at 2 late in the 2nd.

end of 2. Tied