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hockeyisthebest
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private schools= weak JV programs

Post by hockeyisthebest » Sun Dec 10, 2006 12:50 pm

It seems that the private schools have weaker JV programs because the people that come go for the hockey (not the education) and therefore wouldnt come to play jv. In other words the good players come when they are "recruited." Thoughts??

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Post by George Blanda » Sun Dec 10, 2006 4:38 pm

you want my thoughts? Well, here goes...

I think this has been talked about on multiple occasions. Maybe not directly as in JV, but the private bashing time has been a boring conversation since day 1.
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private school jv

Post by topshelf10 » Sun Dec 10, 2006 7:06 pm

look at Hill, STA, and Holy Angels' JV teams

they are good and would beat most public school JV

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Re: private school jv

Post by nbsupremexxx » Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:52 pm

topshelf10 wrote:look at Hill, STA, and Holy Angels' JV teams

they are good and would beat most public school JV
Thats a pretty bold stament, they definatly are the best right now but they could take notes agains some lake confrence teams.
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Post by mnjorc » Fri Dec 15, 2006 1:18 am

The STA JV team seems to be mowing down all the teams it comes up against. Even today the STA JV team played pretty poorly in my opinion, yet they still came out with a win. I think that there are probably just as many good private school JV teams as there are public school JV teams at least by a percentage of the total of each category.

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Post by HShockeywatcher » Sun Dec 17, 2006 1:48 pm

Not sure of the Simley game, but up until then, STA had 1 GA.

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Post by nbsupremexxx » Sun Dec 17, 2006 5:46 pm

1GA lives on STA JV 8-0 over Simley

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Post by nbsupremexxx » Sun Dec 17, 2006 7:45 pm

In all respect to both private and public, there is absolutly no way to compare the two. Although it may appear that students come for a taste of Varsity, several students do come to develop through JV programs and hope to play varsity the next year. In this case the transfering student must be an underclassmen (fresh-soph). It is a fair argument to say most upperclassmen do come for Varsity level.

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Post by gostars4 » Tue Dec 19, 2006 9:42 pm

the reason the public schools have the edge over private schools in JV hockey is because they have a feeder program which means they have been playing together for their whole life. private schools do not have these

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Post by STAhockey » Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:26 pm

Many of the top Academic schools, such as AHA, STA, BSM, HILL, also have very good JV programs.

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Post by STAhockey » Mon Jan 01, 2007 5:30 pm

topshelf10 wrote:
look at Hill, STA, and Holy Angels' JV teams

they are good and would beat most public school JV


Thats a pretty bold stament, they definatly are the best right now but they could take notes agains some lake confrence teams.


Ya but Bloomington Kennedy is in the Lake Confernce and i think there are some peewee team that would beat them hands down

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Post by sachishi4 » Thu Jan 04, 2007 8:43 pm

considering the hill jv team went 25-1 last year i would say that they were pretty good.

and they are doing great this year
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Post by FutureSeaWolve » Sat Jan 06, 2007 10:59 pm

I would say that they private schools with decent jv teams are either fairly big private schools with enough players to field a decent jv team or they are strictly hockey schools and even they have enough older varsity players that they can have most of their freshman and sophmores play jv to get more experience before moving up to varsity. On the other hand if their is a private school that's not as big or also has other important qualifications 8) they don't have as good of a jv team.

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Post by Trashman » Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:55 am

Why is it a bold statement to say that Hill, STA, or AHA JV teams are better than most public JV teams. Most only means that they are in the top half of all JV teams...that's not a bold statement, it's an undisputable fact :!: :!: Some of these schools have as many as 60-90 kids trying out, which means 1/3 to 1/2 or even more of all prospects don't even make JV! I think Hill, STA or AHA JV would beat many smaller schools varsity teams.

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Post by Ankles Pierre, Jr. » Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:25 pm

6 Josh Olson D 10 6' 1" 170
7 Ryan Doyle F 10 5' 8" 150
9 Tyler Hill F 10 (GREAT NAME)
10 Jack Walsh F 9 6' 0" 150
11 Paul Prescott F 10 5' 9" 160
14 Jake Brown D 9 6' 1" 185
15 Peter Johnson F 11 5' 11" 150
16 Jordan Johnson D 9 (PLAYING VARSITY?)
17 Nick Schneider F 11 5' 10" 155
18 Craig Meier D 10 6' 1" 160
19 Nick Widing F 10 (WILL HE MOVE UP TO VARSITY THIS YEAR?)
21 Jeff Sonntag F 11 (WHY DOES HIS NAME SOUND FAMILIAR?)
22 Ben Hayes F 11 5' 8" 150
24 Dillon Mershon F 9 5' 9" 150
25 Alex Kelly D 10 5' 8" 150
27 Andy Singerhouse F 11 (A LOCK TO MOVE UP TO VARSITY?)
28 Justin Nelson F 10 5' 10" 170
32 Brad Wohlers G 9 5' 9" 130
33 Kirk McGinley G 10 6' 0" 185

ANY STATS ON THESE GUYS? AP HAS HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT ALL OF THEM!

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Post by hcky09 » Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:18 pm

widing and singerhouse are pushing 70 point combined.
It would be asham if both of these two kids dont get moved up to varsity this year :!:

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Post by Slapshot*67 » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:06 pm

Ankles Pierre, Jr. wrote:6 Josh Olson D 10 6' 1" 170 smart lots of potential
7 Ryan Doyle F 10 5' 8" 150 quick and gritty
9 Tyler Hill F 10 (GREAT NAME)
10 Jack Walsh F 9 6' 0" 150 Big Future at hill
11 Paul Prescott F 10 5' 9" 160 Should also be at varsity captain
14 Jake Brown D 9 6' 1" 185 hes a monster huge shot most goals at d
15 Peter Johnson F 11 5' 11" 150
16 Jordan Johnson D 9 (PLAYING VARSITY?)
17 Nick Schneider F 11 5' 10" 155
18 Craig Meier D 10 6' 1" 160
19 Nick Widing F 10 (WILL HE MOVE UP TO VARSITY THIS YEAR?)NO
21 Jeff Sonntag F 11 (WHY DOES HIS NAME SOUND FAMILIAR?)
22 Ben Hayes F 11 5' 8" 150 Great hands
24 Dillon Mershon F 9 5' 9" 150 Big future at hill
25 Alex Kelly D 10 5' 8" 150 leads d men with assists great hands
27 Andy Singerhouse F 11 (A LOCK TO MOVE UP TO VARSITY?) maybe not
28 Justin Nelson F 10 5' 10" 170 worker bee
32 Brad Wohlers G 9 5' 9" 130
33 Kirk McGinley G 10 6' 0" 185

No stats I could give some guesses Singer and Wididng lead total points and goals Prescott Brown Hayes Kelly second Doyle Walsh third. Most goals have been power play or shorthanded. wohlers being the better of the two goalies

ANY STATS ON THESE GUYS? AP HAS HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT ALL OF THEM!
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    Post by DAbears25 » Fri Jan 12, 2007 5:46 pm

    Ankles Pierre, Jr. wrote:6 Josh Olson D 10 6' 1" 170
    7 Ryan Doyle F 10 5' 8" 150
    9 Tyler Hill F 10 (GREAT NAME)
    10 Jack Walsh F 9 6' 0" 150
    11 Paul Prescott F 10 5' 9" 160
    14 Jake Brown D 9 6' 1" 185
    15 Peter Johnson F 11 5' 11" 150
    16 Jordan Johnson D 9 (PLAYING VARSITY?)
    17 Nick Schneider F 11 5' 10" 155
    18 Craig Meier D 10 6' 1" 160
    19 Nick Widing F 10 (WILL HE MOVE UP TO VARSITY THIS YEAR?)
    21 Jeff Sonntag F 11 (WHY DOES HIS NAME SOUND FAMILIAR?)
    22 Ben Hayes F 11 5' 8" 150
    24 Dillon Mershon F 9 5' 9" 150
    25 Alex Kelly D 10 5' 8" 150
    27 Andy Singerhouse F 11 (A LOCK TO MOVE UP TO VARSITY?)
    28 Justin Nelson F 10 5' 10" 170
    32 Brad Wohlers G 9 5' 9" 130
    33 Kirk McGinley G 10 6' 0" 185

    ANY STATS ON THESE GUYS? AP HAS HEARD GOOD THINGS ABOUT ALL OF THEM!



    Jeff Sonntag played for WBL before Hill JV. Never played "A" as a second year but still pretty good. Same story with Doyle

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    Post by Zamman » Sat Jan 13, 2007 12:34 pm

    People talk about private schools JV as if they are all transfers. Here is a listing for AHA:
    first of the 17 players listed on AHA's roster 8 are 9th grade, 4 10th graders 3 of which were there last year, 5 11th graders and they were all there last year. Not sure where the groing up factor is, but these kids will be on the team through their senior year. Their biggest hockey growth years. At least 6 of these kids are siblings of previous players for AHA.

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    Post by Ankles Pierre, Jr. » Mon Jan 15, 2007 9:22 pm

    Zamman wrote:Not sure where the groing up factor is....
    Board rules prohibit saying exactly where, but AP hears it is a nagging injury!

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    Post by ae_42 » Wed Jan 17, 2007 8:21 pm

    After seeing the autistic Blake squad play i would have to say that any private school automatically has a sucky JV team.

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