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pucks are funny wrote:I heard it does not take effect until the 2009-2010 season, furthermore mite age players are not included. There has been discussion at district levels on how associations can implement this. Does anyone know if district 8 or mn hockey will stop this?

On the agenda tonight at the monthly Lakeville Hockey Association Board meeting is a vote to remove the Tier 1 restriction policy that was voted on 2 months ago. Rich Rakness from the District is in attendance to support the change. He will speak to the point that The District and Mn Hockey cannot support that policy and it opens Lakeville Hockey, District 8 and Mn Hockey to legal problems.

The policy's sponsor is against the change and was trying to lobby board's support not to overturn the policy!
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Post by spin-o-rama »

Minnetonka has also passed a rule akin to Lakeville's. Hopefully they will see the light, too.
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Tier 1 threat

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Is the lowly FIRE organization that much of a threat to all you haters that hate Tier 1 that adults are making the decision that it's better to BOYCOTT the returning 9-13 year old than to just look him as another player?

The FIRE draw or drew about 17 kids for 5 birth years every season..so what are we talking about 85 or so kids out of more than 34 flippin thousand and there are people that feel it a necessity to make up rules against these kids who left for a year, two, some three or more.

Put this in perspective people, we're talking less than 1/8 percent of the population of Minnesota Youth Hockey and we have rules being made up to judge these kids.

WAKE UP. If you hate Tier 1, good for you. Keep your opinion to yourself or tell everyone, nobody cares. If your association was bad at the b1 level for a year at 9 years old because 5 kids played in Wisconsin, who will remember that when they're Bantams playing in the district championship? Nobody.

This is just utterly pathetic. If you support this as a rule, you're pathetic.
You mine as well go into your kids school today and make sure your student is sitting next to a kid who left for open enrollment and returned and now is in the top math class...that's your kids spot, not his, he left, he doesn't get to come back and go right back to the top math, he must suffer below his level because he left. Make sense? NO and neither does this stupid rule being looked at or passed by organizations.
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What was the outcome of the meeting at LHA last night regarding this?

How come no stink has come out of Minnetonka, or was their proposal not yet voted on or against?
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council member retired wrote:What was the outcome of the meeting at LHA last night regarding this?

How come no stink has come out of Minnetonka, or was their proposal not yet voted on or against?
The policy was not reversed, its was not even voted on! Tim Poehling, the sponser of the original policy, was able to stall the vote.

This guy needs to go. Hes not helping Lakeville hockey. He's got his own adgenda and its not about the kids!
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Post by spin-o-rama »

1 lawsuit and MH could lose their monopoly right to dictate boundaries and all the Tier I proponents will be sending poehling fruit baskets.
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I am in no means an expert on the subject. From what I understand USA Hockey recognizes and supports Tier ! Hockey and MN Hockey allows Shattucks to operate. YOU CAN NOT HAVE IT BOTH WAYS! Therefore if someone pushed the issue Lakeville or anyone else would be in some hot water.
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Can an association dictate a rule that isn't approved in the Minnesota Hockey bylaws? In other words, can rules exist at lower levels that don't exist at higher levels? Is Minnesota Hockey going to make an appendix regarding AAA hockey? What if a kid moves to Lakeville from Detroit and played AAA last year, is he to prejudiced against or is it written "FIRE hockey club players are not allowed to play A".
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Post by Dazed&Confused »

As long as someone doesnt complain or push it they will do whatever they want.
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jancze5 wrote:Can an association dictate a rule that isn't approved in the Minnesota Hockey bylaws? In other words, can rules exist at lower levels that don't exist at higher levels? Is Minnesota Hockey going to make an appendix regarding AAA hockey? What if a kid moves to Lakeville from Detroit and played AAA last year, is he to prejudiced against or is it written "FIRE hockey club players are not allowed to play A".
elliott can correct me if need be but my understanding is they at minimum have to be in line with the affiliate governing body by-laws.
They can have additional rules, but I believe those rules or restrictions can't go against the mission statement or by-laws of the governing body.

Now it's been said before that they only have to provide the member the opportunity to play, not necessarily on a particular team.


Can I get a ruling e70 ?
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Post by mr.mouth »

So the re-vote of Lakeville's "Pride" rule was voted on again and it was defeated by an all-board member vote.

1 - Lakeville, 0 - Poehling.
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