2006-07 Bantam B1 preview

Bud · Post by **Bud** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 10:37 am

my2cents wrote:The #1 and #2 seeds from D2 go a combined 1-5 vs D10 and D11 in the East regional. The #3 seed from D2 goes down to the south and wins their subregion to go to state.

Fishy business.

So what is the scouting report on Pequot Lakes?

Pequot Lakes beat Roseau 3-2 in overtime. Pequot has one very good player and the rest are pretty average. I believe their one good player scored all three goals against Roseau.

my2cents · Post by **my2cents** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:24 pm

Nice to see new teams make it to state. Good luck To Pequot Lakes.

ShootPassScore · Post by **ShootPassScore** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 12:27 pm

Pioneer.......

Are we going to get a ranking this week? These are the most reliable/fair rankings out there. I'm sure the teams not going to state would like something to hold onto. Thanks for your efforts on this.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 2:09 pm

LesHabs wrote:Let me preface my comments below with the fact that the team my son is affiliated with is going to state. That being said, the Regional format used this year is a JOKE!!! Across all levels there were many teams that went 2-1 in pool play and did not get to play on Sunday, even though they beat some of the teams that did advance (EP Black and Hermantown are just 2 examples). Let the teams decide who advances to state by wins and losses, not some goofy point system. It's true what they say, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it". The double elimination format that has been used in the past in the metro area worked great, and I hope a lot of people let Minnesota Hockey know that, so that the chowder heads who decided to make the change, realize that and shelf the pool play format.

Well Stated! Thank you

hockeyplayer0 · Post by **hockeyplayer0** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 4:39 pm

i heard that frazier in the title fight

theoneandonly1 · Post by **theoneandonly1** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:53 pm

hockeyplayer0 wrote:i heard that frazier in the title fight

huh?

EagleGuy91 · Post by **EagleGuy91** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:56 pm

It's a veiled and somewhat clever shot at Tommy-Two-cheeks and his armor-plated purple and yellow bulletproof vest and his admitted antics in a league matchup with a state tournament participant (as chronicled on the very pages of this forum).

It means that while Frazier may have gone down in the middle rounds of the fight, he's still up in the late rounds and may even be preparing for a 12th round knockout of his opponent.

Still not getting it?

EP Red is in the State Tournament.

And while that tournament will be a nice geographic representation of the State of Hockey . . . I don't think it will be representative of the best that Bantam B has to offer. That's the set up. Gotta beat someone to be someone.

theoneandonly1 · Post by **theoneandonly1** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 7:27 pm

Oh alright now I get it, thanks Eagleguy

fbj123 · Post by **fbj123** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 8:04 pm

Hey tomASS, with all of this extra time on your hands you should have a pretty good NCAA basketball bracket right? Could you give me your thoughts on the Missouri Valley Conference? Could the Ivy League be a one-bid-league again?

The bottom line is................. that the only recipe that you need for beating any team is to come ready to play. Thats all that you need to do. Comming ready to play has been stated and re stated on this thread the entire year. Your Chaska boys did it to E.P. Red, and Minnetonka did it to Edina Green. Those are only two of the countless number of games this year that have been won due to one team comming ready to play. A game that is an example of both teams comming ready to play is the E.P. Red and Burnsville game this past Sunday. Another fine example would be any game between the Edina teams. In my own opinion, I believe that if Wayzata Blue doesnt come ready to play against Pequot Lakes in their state tourney game we could have a major upset, but if they do, and continue to come prepared, watch out for them!

GopherFan · Post by **GopherFan** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:11 pm

The only reason Pequot is going to state is because the refs screwed rapids in overtime. The winning goal was because they just let Pequot stab at the puck for five minutes when the goalie had it covered. Seriously late whistle. The refs also threw out one of Rapids players for an intent to injure. What a joke these refs were all weekend!! The kid turned his back at the last second. I could understand a 2 and 10 but 5 and a game?!!! Cavanaugh had to step in in the third period during the rapids hibbing game and then the reffing was much better. Good luck to Pequot though. It is nice to see new teams even though they don't have an A team.

easton13 · Post by **easton13** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 9:38 pm

Their are oing to be a lot of good teams in the state tournament
what does wbl needto do to beat blaine?
what does pequet lakes need to do to win?
Do you think moorehead or lakeville can upset chisago and ep red?

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:02 pm

fbj123 wrote:Hey tomASS, with all of this extra time on your hands you should have a pretty good NCAA basketball bracket right? Could you give me your thoughts on the Missouri Valley Conference? Could the Ivy League be a one-bid-league again?

The bottom line is................. that the only recipe that you need for beating any team is to come ready to play. Thats all that you need to do. Comming ready to play has been stated and re stated on this thread the entire year. Your Chaska boys did it to E.P. Red, and Minnetonka did it to Edina Green. Those are only two of the countless number of games this year that have been won due to one team comming ready to play. A game that is an example of both teams comming ready to play is the E.P. Red and Burnsville game this past Sunday. Another fine example would be any game between the Edina teams. In my own opinion, I believe that if Wayzata Blue doesnt come ready to play against Pequot Lakes in their state tourney game we could have a major upset, but if they do, and continue to come prepared, watch out for them!

1) Naw! I can not stand watching any form of basketball, however my EPL and Serial "A" fantasy league teams have done very well as of late since I have more time to manage my line-ups and transfers. Can't help you on brackets, sorry! I'm afraid I'm too late if you didn't already know to play your West Ham, Manchester City, Arsenal, and Chelsea players this game week since each of those teams have two games this round. My advice would have been to have Drogba as your captain for a certain double digit score for your team. Any thoughts on the FA Cup replays?

2) Disagree with you somewhat - coming ready to play would be equal to working hard and having a great attitude, however a team also needs to work smart so a lower hockey IQ doesn't offset the coming ready to play part of it. That means doing the right things at the right time ( taken from the Hockey book for dummies part 2 edition)

3) hockeyplayer0 it was a very clever shot and I found it to be very very good and extremely well timed.....what I was suppose to get mad?

Hardly - I have thicker skin than that enjoy a good laugh at my expense. Sorry you couldn't get me going.

4) EagleGuy91 - agreed but the State Hockey Association got what it wanted - balance. The toughest part of the schedule is over for a couple teams in this case .

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 11:05 pm

easton13 wrote:Their are oing to be a lot of good teams in the state tournament
what does wbl needto do to beat blaine?
what does pequet lakes need to do to win?
Do you think moorehead or lakeville can upset chisago and ep red?

DOWN goes Moorhead!
DOWN goes Lakeville
DOWN goes WBL
DOWN goes P.L.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10 - YOU'RE OUT!

pioneer · Post by **pioneer** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:42 am

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1         Blaine B1                     78.9      45-7-1
2         Edina B1 White                76.4      30-9-4
3         Eden Prairie B1 Red           75.7      43-6-4
4         Edina B1 Green                75.6      29-10-4
5         Eden Prairie B1 Black         75.1      29-17-2
6         Elk River B1                  74.8      31-6-0
7         Wayzata B1 Blue               74.7      36-8-2
8         Centennial B1 Red             74.6      31-13-3
9         Chisago Lakes B1              73.5      37-9-3
10        Burnsville B1                 73.4      26-11-2
11        White Bear Lake B1 Orange     73.1      33-10-3
12        Chaska B1                     72.1      22-16-3
13        Stillwater B1                 72.0      29-14-6
14        Woodbury B1                   71.6      45-9-3
15        Jefferson B1                  69.8      28-16-6
16        Maple Grove B1                69.8      26-12-3
17        Minnetonka B1                 69.2      24-20-2
18        Blake                         66.8      22-13-3
19        White Bear Lake B1 Black      66.8      23-10-2
20        Duluth East B1                65.8      24-9-4
21        Eagan B1                      65.6      22-15-6
22        Moorhead B1                   65.0      21-9-0
23        St. Cloud B1 Black            64.1      14-8-3
24        Andover B1                    63.8      20-18-2
25        Champlin Park B1              63.3      18-16-5

pioneer · Post by **pioneer** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 12:47 am

Just for fun, here is what I have for this year's state participants:

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1         Blaine B1                     78.9      45-7-1
3         Eden Prairie B1 Red           75.7      43-6-4
7         Wayzata B1 Blue               74.7      36-8-2
9         Chisago Lakes B1              73.5      37-9-3
11        White Bear Lake B1 Orange     73.1      33-10-3
22        Moorhead B1                   65.0      21-9-0
31        Rochester Red                 61.5      22-14-4
37        Central Lakes                 56.5      16-2-0

Good luck to all these teams. Win or lose, they should be proud of making it there. And be sure to soak it all in - it will be something you will remember for a long time.

ShootPassScore · Post by **ShootPassScore** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:26 am

Thnx Pioneer, the state breakdown is nice to have. It may end up just like that!

EagleGuy, just out of curiosity (not as a shot, out of pure curiosity) who would be seated at the state banquet tables if it were up to you?

In my opinion the West and East Regional should have seeded one more to state. Instead of two from South and two from North only one from each of those regions.

TomArs, Observer, 2Cents, Pioneer give me your "recipe" for the bracket busters.

I know I have been a Wayzata pimp all season but seriously I live in Plymouth and PIC is three blocks away. I have ties with Bantam B hockey as a coach from previous years, therefore I have watched Blue many times this season. They are playing the best they have all season. They beat EP Red decisively last weekend and have beaten Blaine twice. They are my homer pick to win/repeat as state champs.

thecorrespondent · Post by **thecorrespondent** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 11:36 am

I would agree with Wayzata Blue to win it. Being associated with the Mg team and watching that blue team against our boys 4x I would say they are the most complete team we had see all year with size, great speed, they love the physical game and have solid goaltending.

I watched the blue vs red game and blue pounded them all over the ice, it was 5-0 going into the 3rd, and at least for that game seemed like a mismatch.

I agree with shootpassScore, i would have liked to see MG and Burnsville play for a 3rd state spot. I also feel as do most that the pool play with 8 teams in regional play is a complete joke and whom ever made that decision should not be aloud to make any other decisions. I would like to have heard the rational behind that decision.

You gotta love the fact that WhiteBear orange gets the 3rd seed from district 2 and gets rewarded with a trip to the south region while there d2 counterparts are busy going 1-5 against d10 and 11 teams in the north. Something just didnt seem right with that.

I think Blue will win it, but if both Blaine and blue get through I feel the winner of that game wins it all. Red will get there from the top bracket but they cannot handle the physical play from either Blue or Blaine to win it all. That is just my prediction.

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 1:40 pm

Agree with correspondent about the regional play and where some teams were sent. Wouldn't have helped our team this time around but there are some deserving teams not participating - happens too often.

The statement about not letting this individual make any more decisions, however if he sold this concept to a group who approved it I have a bridge in Brooklyn I need him to sell.

W. Blue only saw them once and it was against us in our first game after tryouts were completed. Way too early in the season but they played extremely well and seemed to have a group of talented kids. I can see them doing very well.

They applied the correct (but I'm told obvious) recipe against Red.

Hockey guy1486 · Post by **Hockey guy1486** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 2:52 pm

Hey Pioneer , I like the rankings but you have a miss print. The Burnsville Bantam B1's ended with a record of 29-8-3 and not 26-11-2. They also lost to one of the top 3 teams in EP Red 2-1 on a goal w/ 34 seconds left in the Regional final. Don't get me wrong, EP Red played a great game and should one of the favorites in state. I just think that B'villes ranking should be higher.

hockeyrocks99 · Post by **hockeyrocks99** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 3:49 pm

[quote="Bud"][quote="my2cents"]The #1 and #2 seeds from D2 go a combined 1-5 vs D10 and D11 in the East regional. The #3 seed from D2 goes down to the south and wins their subregion to go to state.

Fishy business.

So what is the scouting report on Pequot Lakes?[/quote]

Pequot Lakes beat Roseau 3-2 in overtime. Pequot has one very good player and the rest are pretty average. I believe their one good player scored all three goals against Roseau.[/quote]

Roseau should have never play Pequot Lakes for the reason they should of beat Moorhead. But the referee kick one of Roseau best player out for a clean check. They should of played Red Lake Fall that they haven't lost to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

bigshooter · Post by **bigshooter** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 4:54 pm

First off....
hockeyrocks please shut up we all know you're from roseau and that you got screwed, now it's over.

Well, thanks pioneer for the rankings, Blaine's on top... anyone agree with that #1 spot? are they really that good. I've seen them this year and they are the most physical team i've seen at that level and at some "A" levels. I was just wondering if anyone had an opinion on them and their physical play.

As i saw EP red play a little bit, i noticed that they are SMALL!! they only have a couple players that are an average size, but man are they fast, and help between the pipes helps too! so, i applaud Mr. Ford for dominating BB1 hockey as a goaltender

..... (no idea why he didn't make "A")

Hockeyman1606 · Post by **Hockeyman1606** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 5:00 pm

Dominating?

Both Ep Red goalies are great.

pioneer · Post by **pioneer** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:21 pm

Serves me right for posting that late at night. I had a slight "bug" in the program and am re-posting.

Hockey guy1486 - The correct Burnsville record is as below. You are right, I had missed their last two scrimages, but they did nor post their losses to EP Black in District playoffs nor their loss to EP Red in Regions... In addition, they lost to (not tied) Minnetonka in league play. Nonetheless you should be happy as they are now #7.

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1         Blaine B1                     78.2      45-7-1
2         Edina B1 White                77.4      30-9-4
3         Eden Prairie B1 Red           77.4      43-6-4
4         Eden Prairie B1 Black         76.9      29-17-2
5         Edina B1 Green                76.6      29-10-4
6         Wayzata B1 Blue               75.8      36-8-2
7         Burnsville B1                 75.4      28-11-2
8         Centennial B1 Red             73.7      31-13-3
9         Chaska B1                     73.4      22-16-3
10        Elk River B1                  73.3      31-6-0
11        Chisago Lakes B1              73.0      37-9-3
12        Stillwater B1                 72.4      29-14-6
13        White Bear Lake B1 Orange     71.9      33-10-3
14        Maple Grove B1                71.1      26-12-3
15        Jefferson B1                  70.9      28-16-6
16        Woodbury B1                   70.9      45-9-3
17        Minnetonka B1                 70.7      24-20-2
18        Blake                         68.1      22-13-3
19        Moorhead B1                   66.8      21-10-0
20        Duluth East B1                66.6      24-9-4
21        White Bear Lake B1 Black      66.3      23-10-2
22        Eagan B1                      64.2      22-15-6
23        Hermantown B1                 63.6      27-11-0
24        Andover B1                    62.6      20-18-2
25        St. Cloud B1 Black            62.5      14-8-3

And the State participants:

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1         Blaine B1                     78.2      45-7-1
3         Eden Prairie B1 Red           77.4      43-6-4
6         Wayzata B1 Blue               75.8      36-8-2
11        Chisago Lakes B1              73.0      37-9-3
13        White Bear Lake B1 Orange     71.9      33-10-3
19        Moorhead B1                   66.8      21-10-0
33        Rochester Red                 60.4      22-15-4
40        Pequot Lakes                  56.3      16-2-0

tomASS · Post by **tomASS** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 8:18 am

pioneer - thank you for doing this. I greatly appreciate your efforts and devoting your time to this. Well done.

Just reinforces you can't judge a book by its cover for us.

Snipesky13 · Post by **Snipesky13** » Wed Mar 07, 2007 7:12 pm

Hockeyman1606 wrote:Dominating?

Both Ep Red goalies are great.

Yeah i thought the other goalie was better than Ford. Maybe it was just an off night for him during wayzata blue when they scored five on him and he got pulled. I'll admit a few lucky ones bounced in but i was not that impressed with him. The other goalie (sorry i dont know your name) played well in all the games i watched so i would say hes pretty good.

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