Because your top pitcher is often times also your best player, in JM's case if Spencer Brady pitches the first game he won't play in the field the second game. By pitching Hovick first they get Brady in both games.
Also you may think you can get by with a lesser pitcher and save your top guy for later. If you waste your top guy first in a blow out and the team you'll face next doesn't you could be in trouble.
I understand the win the first one thoery but this isn't a double elimination tournament so you need to be ready to win 3, not just the first one to keep you out of the long road back in the losers bracket.
JM is down 3-2 in the 7th, it's not due to JM's pitching, they're down because with bases loaded and no outs a kid (3rd hitter) grounds into a double play on a 2-0 pitch.
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You have to win one before you can win 3.
If your second guy is that good , he will be fine in the semis in a few hours.
If you win the first game, do you save your #1 for Friday Night?
You would almost have to for the plan to be consistent.
Why does a player who pitches not play in the field the next game in high school ball?
If your second guy is that good , he will be fine in the semis in a few hours.
If you win the first game, do you save your #1 for Friday Night?
You would almost have to for the plan to be consistent.
Why does a player who pitches not play in the field the next game in high school ball?
I'm not saying you're wrong PB, some people look at it as you have to win 3 and given that you need 3 pitchers because you have to win 3 games in 2 days makes that a reasonable strategy. Winning the first but losing your top pitcher in the process might not be the best strategy especially if you think your second guy gives you a good chance of winning as well.
In JM's case Brady is their top pitcher and their top hitter, he falls off in the second game after pitching the first. Hovick pitched a good enough game to win but 3 errors and a bad fielding decision killed JM. Their second pitcher pitched well enough to win, and they'd have saved Brady for their game against Jefferson. Hovick was also 8-0 coming into the game.
I understand you have to win the first to win it all, but I can also see going in with the mindset of winning 3, not just the first one and then we'll see what happens.
In JM's case Brady is their top pitcher and their top hitter, he falls off in the second game after pitching the first. Hovick pitched a good enough game to win but 3 errors and a bad fielding decision killed JM. Their second pitcher pitched well enough to win, and they'd have saved Brady for their game against Jefferson. Hovick was also 8-0 coming into the game.
I understand you have to win the first to win it all, but I can also see going in with the mindset of winning 3, not just the first one and then we'll see what happens.
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Bloomington Jefferson and St. Michael-Albertville advance to the semis.
Grand Rapids 0, Chaska 0
Top 5th
Wood-58 pitches, 2 hits allowed
Hand-79 pitches, 3 hits allowed, three walks
Pitcher's duel. I am feeling like this game will be a 1-0 final.
No word on the other quarterfinal.
Grand Rapids 0, Chaska 0
Top 5th
Wood-58 pitches, 2 hits allowed
Hand-79 pitches, 3 hits allowed, three walks
Pitcher's duel. I am feeling like this game will be a 1-0 final.
No word on the other quarterfinal.
Id maybe go along with it if:
The guy I sent out there had pitched against them during the season OR MAYBE If I had very reliable info on the opposition and was convinced that my second guy could shut them down or keep it under 3.
But baseball being baseball, its still risky not going with your best.
The guy I sent out there had pitched against them during the season OR MAYBE If I had very reliable info on the opposition and was convinced that my second guy could shut them down or keep it under 3.
But baseball being baseball, its still risky not going with your best.
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Where are you boblee?boblee wrote:Bloomington Jefferson and St. Michael-Albertville advance to the semis.
Grand Rapids 0, Chaska 0
Top 5th
Wood-58 pitches, 2 hits allowed
Hand-79 pitches, 3 hits allowed, three walks
Pitcher's duel. I am feeling like this game will be a 1-0 final.
No word on the other quarterfinal.
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Any update on the Rapids game?packerboy wrote:Where are you boblee?boblee wrote:Bloomington Jefferson and St. Michael-Albertville advance to the semis.
Grand Rapids 0, Chaska 0
Top 5th
Wood-58 pitches, 2 hits allowed
Hand-79 pitches, 3 hits allowed, three walks
Pitcher's duel. I am feeling like this game will be a 1-0 final.
No word on the other quarterfinal.
post 10439
I am at home in Grand Rapids.
Grand Rapids 1, Chaska 0
Bottom 6
Gabe Wood has allowed just 2 hits and struck out 4
Brad Hand has allowed 6 hits, walked 3, and struck out 10
Wood just picked up his fifth K.
One out in the bottom of the sixth.
Grand Rapids 1, Chaska 0
Bottom 6
Gabe Wood has allowed just 2 hits and struck out 4
Brad Hand has allowed 6 hits, walked 3, and struck out 10
Wood just picked up his fifth K.
One out in the bottom of the sixth.
post 10441
Hand has walked two in the seventh. That's now 5 in the game. He is at 123 pitches.
1st and 3rd for Rapids in the 7th. One out.
Hovet steals second.
2nd and 3rd one out.
1st and 3rd for Rapids in the 7th. One out.
Hovet steals second.
2nd and 3rd one out.
post 10442
Hand strikes out Figgins. That is his 11th of the game.
2nd and 3rd still, two outs.
John Skrbec who has the lone RBI will try to drive in a couple more.
Fly ball to right, inning over. We'll head to the bottom of the 7th.
Grand Rapids 1, Chaska 0
2nd and 3rd still, two outs.
John Skrbec who has the lone RBI will try to drive in a couple more.
Fly ball to right, inning over. We'll head to the bottom of the 7th.
Grand Rapids 1, Chaska 0
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Hand leads off the bottom of the 7th inning with a two bagger.
Only the third Chaska hit of the game. Second of the game for Chaska.
It's time to find out what Gabe Wood is made of.
Only the third Chaska hit of the game. Second of the game for Chaska.
It's time to find out what Gabe Wood is made of.
post 10444
John Skrbec fights the sun but makes the catch for the first out.
Runner still at second.
NDSU recruit John Straka bounces out to the pitcher unassisted.
Runner at third, two out, bottom seven.
Runner still at second.
NDSU recruit John Straka bounces out to the pitcher unassisted.
Runner at third, two out, bottom seven.
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boblee wrote:Wood hits the batter.
1st and 3rd.
Two out.
Character is who you are when no one is watching
post 10446
Runner steals second.
2nd and 3rd.
Two out.
Wood walks him.
Bases loaded, two out.
What is Gabe Wood made of?
2nd and 3rd.
Two out.
Wood walks him.
Bases loaded, two out.
What is Gabe Wood made of?
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Petrified Wood?boblee wrote: What is Gabe Wood made of?
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Hopefully nerves of steel....boblee wrote:Runner steals second.
2nd and 3rd.
Two out.
Wood walks him.
Bases loaded, two out.
What is Gabe Wood made of?
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Neutron 14 wrote:Petrified Wood?boblee wrote: What is Gabe Wood made of?
Character is who you are when no one is watching
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Re: post 10447
Alright, what time is the next game. Way to go Rapids!!!!boblee wrote:Rapids wins! Rapids wins!
Wood outduels Hand, Rapids moves onto semi-finals.
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Great job by the orange and black. A tip of the cap to Mr. Wood. Outstanding!!!! Good luck to Mr. Hand with the Marlins, congratulations again. Keep on rollin GR!boblee wrote:Rapids wins! Rapids wins!
Wood outduels Hand, Rapids moves onto semi-finals.
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Great work bob, I was on the edge of my seat, it was almost like being there.boblee wrote:Rapids wins! Rapids wins!
Wood outduels Hand, Rapids moves onto semi-finals.
Congrats to GR, they beat a very good pitcher.
post 10448
Looks like it'll be Rapids vs. Rapids tonight.
Grand Rapids will face Coon Rapids @ 5:30 tonight at Midway Stadium in St. Paul.
Grand Rapids will face Coon Rapids @ 5:30 tonight at Midway Stadium in St. Paul.