2000 MACHINE VS 2000 BLADES

[EnjoyTheShow]

Did the Monopoly fall apart? I thought hey were a top 3 team last year. Then again I only saw them at the easton cup and meltdown.

Anything???

[WildFan]

On the Indep. Classic they have their brackets up and I don't see the '00 Monopoly. Maybe they aren't playing in this or maybe they don't have a team at this level this season or maybe they are one of the new Showcase teams? Haven't heard what's u[ but they were pretty good last year.

[hockeydad0930]

Here we go!!!!! I have to say Reebok Nationals. Our 3rd year with them. My 94 is done but was replaced by my 02[Practice player on 2000] Can't wait I love summer hockey almost as much as all your comments.

Your 02 is playing two years up... Must be a Phenom...

Reebok Nationals will not be anywhere near a Top 10 team...my son played for them last season, and it was a big mistake. Coaching was very underrated...except the few sessions that Yuro was on the ice with the team. They over-promise, under-deliver in a big way. The '99 team my son skated on last season only returned 4 players of the 20 on the team last year...doesn't look good in my opinion. This 2000 team is a 1st year team that will take several years to build. All of the top 2000's that played on the '99s last season have moved on to other programs.

One of the biggest issues a program like this has is letting '02 players practice with the 2000's. When you put players that are clearly out of their league on the ice like this, it says one thing..."We want your money, even though we know your kid cannot compete."

Not knocking this particular player...great for him to get the summer training, but it doesn't look good for the program as a whole.

[old goalie85]

Hockeydad09whatever I agree different progams different strokes!! I like the American Legion next door the best. My oldest[ Last year Bantam A this year soph J.V. guy who playedno varsity shifts, but dressed] saw great improvment. My 98 I have mixed feelings. My 01 was a practice player on 99 team last year. He made great strides trying to keep up. this year he is on the 00 team and is a good fit. Now his younger brother is trying to keep up. C. Woodcroft has been on the ice for both practices thus far. [ only 2] we know as a family it is a good fit. 80 hr. ice not wins are what I really think about ,but , I think top 10 at the 00 is a opinion at this age. I wish you and yours good luck!!! I hope you find what your looking for in a summer program. Boogie's dad.

[MrBoDangles]

Did the Monopoly fall apart? I thought hey were a top 3 team last year. Then again I only saw them at the easton cup and meltdown.

Anything???

Decent team, just didn't know what team or different faces were going to show up at tournaments.

[MrBoDangles]

Blades 5 Icemen 3 Good game!

[MrBoDangles]

Machine?
STE
Monopoly
Blades
Icemen!
Torspo
Miracle?

Steffen didn't do the Blades any favors by letting his buddies kids make the team.

[MrBoDangles]

Did the Monopoly fall apart? I thought hey were a top 3 team last year. Then again I only saw them at the easton cup and meltdown.

Anything???

I'm very impressed with your sons team.....

[EnjoyTheShow]

Did the Monopoly fall apart? I thought hey were a top 3 team last year. Then again I only saw them at the easton cup and meltdown.

Anything???

I'm very impressed with your sons team.....

Whew! Thanks! haha, don't have a kid yet, but when I do I will keep this in mind. Unfortunately if they have my genes they'll be lucky if they can skate. hopefully he'll follow after his mom.

[MrBoDangles]

Anything???

I'm very impressed with your sons team.....

Whew! Thanks! haha, don't have a kid yet, but when I do I will keep this in mind. Unfortunately if they have my genes they'll be lucky if they can skate. hopefully he'll follow after his mom.

What's the deal with always bringing up the Monopoly then????

[EnjoyTheShow]

I'm very impressed with your sons team.....

Whew! Thanks! haha, don't have a kid yet, but when I do I will keep this in mind. Unfortunately if they have my genes they'll be lucky if they can skate. hopefully he'll follow after his mom.

What's the deal with always bringing up the Monopoly then????

Fair question. When the guys that run Monopoly started, I met them. They seemed like good guys, but I thought they were in over their heads. I happened to coach in the winter and was watching someone who played for me and saw their teams last year, and was impressed to see that they were having some success. They seemed to be really enjoying what they were doing and at one point asked me about helping coach. My job doesn't allow for it in the summer. I guess I am rooting for them a bit.

[MrBoDangles]

Whew! Thanks! haha, don't have a kid yet, but when I do I will keep this in mind. Unfortunately if they have my genes they'll be lucky if they can skate. hopefully he'll follow after his mom.

What's the deal with always bringing up the Monopoly then????

Fair question. When the guys that run Monopoly started, I met them. They seemed like good guys, but I thought they were in over their heads. I happened to coach in the winter and was watching someone who played for me and saw their teams last year, and was impressed to see that they were having some success. They seemed to be really enjoying what they were doing and at one point asked me about helping coach. My job doesn't allow for it in the summer. I guess I am rooting for them a bit.

They are becoming a force and have a ton of young talent in the area.

[noIinteam]

Can't keep it all straight -- roster players playing with Iceman and Monopoly players going to Brick?

How many kids are going to the Brick? Are Blades kind of an open/ flexible team in the sense that players just come and go as they please?

Hopefully Blades will play in Easton Cup or Caribou or maybe even show up in Winnipeg?

Blades going to Chicago? What kind of comp will they face? If Monopoly is in same tournament -- some kids might get confused - what jersey to wear?

Is it true Monopoly beat the Blades earlier this season?

[MrBoDangles]

Can't keep it all straight -- roster players playing with Iceman and Monopoly players going to Brick?

How many kids are going to the Brick? Are Blades kind of an open/ flexible team in the sense that players just come and go as they please?

Hopefully Blades will play in Easton Cup or Caribou or maybe even show up in Winnipeg?

Blades going to Chicago? What kind of comp will they face? If Monopoly is in same tournament -- some kids might get confused - what jersey to wear?

Is it true Monopoly beat the Blades earlier this season?

Monopoly 6
Miracle 3
First game/scrimmage for the Miracle(Mothers Day)..... Monopoly only had 10 or 11 skaters and there were only a couple of whistles. Each team had a couple kids that really stood out.

[hotsauce]

Can't keep it all straight -- roster players playing with Iceman and Monopoly players going to Brick?

How many kids are going to the Brick? Are Blades kind of an open/ flexible team in the sense that players just come and go as they please?

Hopefully Blades will play in Easton Cup or Caribou or maybe even show up in Winnipeg?

Blades going to Chicago? What kind of comp will they face? If Monopoly is in same tournament -- some kids might get confused - what jersey to wear?

Is it true Monopoly beat the Blades earlier this season?

Yes they beat the Blades. I don't see there being any confusion as the Monopoly players that go to the Brick are only skating with the blades for that 1 tournament, maybe a couple of tune ups. Sounds like the Blades and Monopoly play in game one for each team in Chicago.

[hotsauce]

Can't keep it all straight -- roster players playing with Iceman and Monopoly players going to Brick?

How many kids are going to the Brick? Are Blades kind of an open/ flexible team in the sense that players just come and go as they please?

Hopefully Blades will play in Easton Cup or Caribou or maybe even show up in Winnipeg?

Blades going to Chicago? What kind of comp will they face? If Monopoly is in same tournament -- some kids might get confused - what jersey to wear?

Is it true Monopoly beat the Blades earlier this season?

Monopoly 6
Miracle 3
First game/scrimmage for the Miracle(Mothers Day)..... Monopoly only had 10 or 11 skaters and there were only a couple of whistles. Each team had a couple kids that really stood out.

They had 10 skaters, and 9 for most of the game. One of the skaters blades broke on their skate. They didn't have their top couple players and from the sounds of it looked very sloppy. The miracle seems to be a well coached program with some strong skaters.

[EnjoyTheShow]

Can't keep it all straight -- roster players playing with Iceman and Monopoly players going to Brick?

How many kids are going to the Brick? Are Blades kind of an open/ flexible team in the sense that players just come and go as they please?

Hopefully Blades will play in Easton Cup or Caribou or maybe even show up in Winnipeg?

Blades going to Chicago? What kind of comp will they face? If Monopoly is in same tournament -- some kids might get confused - what jersey to wear?

Is it true Monopoly beat the Blades earlier this season?

Based on your previous posts, it is clear you are a machine parent, Why are you so concerned with the Blades and Monopoly? I don't think the Blades have a come and go policy but the Brick is a different deal. Also I think it is great to allow kids different opportunities. Its too bad the Machine wouldn't be open minded to that.

[MrBoDangles]

So with all the tournament add ons and the players from northern Mn, southern Mn, and Wiscconsin that are on the roster.... Who is left that actually goes to the Blades 2000 practices? The parents and players that go to practice must love this set up.
Do these SO CALLED rostered players just cover the cost for these weekend temps? Just seems like ugly business to me.

What a letdown for these kids that are told at the last minute that they're not going UGLY!

SACRIFICE TO WIN BABY

[play4fun]

So with all the tournament add ons and the players from northern Mn, southern Mn, and Wiscconsin that are on the roster.... Who is left that actually goes to the Blades 2000 practices? The parents and players that go to practice must love this set up.
Do these SO CALLED rostered players just cover the cost for these weekend temps? Just seems like ugly business to me.

What a letdown for these kids that are told at the last minute that they're not going UGLY!

SACRIFICE TO WIN BABY

Bo - just trolling for fun?

After last year, kids from the 2000 Blades went in several directions. Some stayed with the Blades. Some went to other programs like the Icemen, Machine, etc... They're essentially rebuilding their tournament team. With the coach they have, I'm sure they'll have a strong core unit again in the next couple of years.

The Blades have always sought to put the best players available in a position to showcase their talents at tournaments like the Brick and Prospects. I don't see how providing opportunities to a group of kids to compete for spots on a team like the Blades is a bad thing. At the very least, all of the kids who make the practices are getting time with a very good coach.

Top teams like the Blades are not run like an association. They take the best kids they can, give them additional training, and expect to compete with the best from across North America. If you don't like that model, there are other teams that place team stability as a higher priority where kids and parents can feel better about the security of their playing time.

If history and reputation count for anything, I'm going to have to give the Blades coach and organization the benefit of the doubt. And no, I don't have a kid with the Blades.

[golemom]

So with all the tournament add ons and the players from northern Mn, southern Mn, and Wiscconsin that are on the roster.... Who is left that actually goes to the Blades 2000 practices? The parents and players that go to practice must love this set up.
Do these SO CALLED rostered players just cover the cost for these weekend temps? Just seems like ugly business to me.

What a letdown for these kids that are told at the last minute that they're not going UGLY!

SACRIFICE TO WIN BABY

For the past few years every year blades team has either had separate brick tryouts or have extended their roster for this tournament, my son has never plat at brick played at prospects and you need to extend the talent pool or it is very hard to compete in these tournaments, I'm not positive on this but I don't know if a group from minnesota has ever won prospects, maybe came close but I don't believe won - someone will correct me if I'm wrong.... but I hear it is a wonderful tournament that you can only participate in as a 9 or ten year old. I saw a highlight clip somewhere for this recently and it looked like a ton of fun. If communicated properly before the start of season should eliminate a lot of disgruntled parents. Looking at the 95 blades roster at the present they have two teams worth of names now that they must use for different tournaments, some parents may be happy to not spend the extra money if they had to go to the brick. I don't think its all bad if communicated properly and up front so everyone is aware how it going to work for the year. We all know there is talent other than the machine or blades and maybe this will give a couple a chance to participate in such an event.

[MrBoDangles]

So with all the tournament add ons and the players from northern Mn, southern Mn, and Wiscconsin that are on the roster.... Who is left that actually goes to the Blades 2000 practices? The parents and players that go to practice must love this set up.
Do these SO CALLED rostered players just cover the cost for these weekend temps? Just seems like ugly business to me.

What a letdown for these kids that are told at the last minute that they're not going UGLY!

SACRIFICE TO WIN BABY

Bo - just trolling for fun?

After last year, kids from the 2000 Blades went in several directions. Some stayed with the Blades. Some went to other programs like the Icemen, Machine, etc... They're essentially rebuilding their tournament team. With the coach they have, I'm sure they'll have a strong core unit again in the next couple of years.

The Blades have always sought to put the best players available in a position to showcase their talents at tournaments like the Brick and Prospects. I don't see how providing opportunities to a group of kids to compete for spots on a team like the Blades is a bad thing. At the very least, all of the kids who make the practices are getting time with a very good coach.

Top teams like the Blades are not run like an association. They take the best kids they can, give them additional training, and expect to compete with the best from across North America. If you don't like that model, there are other teams that place team stability as a higher priority where kids and parents can feel better about the security of their playing time.

If history and reputation count for anything, I'm going to have to give the Blades coach and organization the benefit of the doubt. And no, I don't have a kid with the Blades.

So you're saying they would bring in as many top end temps as possible to replace the rostered players.... How thoughtful of them to give such an opportunity to other kids. How nice are the rostered parents to pay for a bulk of it.

The model baffles me!

The imaginary Pink Roses AAA Club could hand pick a bunch of top MN kids and look great in Canada too. Training

They do have a good coach.....He should coach HIS team.

[MrBoDangles]

So with all the tournament add ons and the players from northern Mn, southern Mn, and Wiscconsin that are on the roster.... Who is left that actually goes to the Blades 2000 practices? The parents and players that go to practice must love this set up.
Do these SO CALLED rostered players just cover the cost for these weekend temps? Just seems like ugly business to me.

What a letdown for these kids that are told at the last minute that they're not going UGLY!

SACRIFICE TO WIN BABY

For the past few years every year blades team has either had separate brick tryouts or have extended their roster for this tournament, my son has never plat at brick played at prospects and you need to extend the talent pool or it is very hard to compete in these tournaments, I'm not positive on this but I don't know if a group from minnesota has ever won prospects, maybe came close but I don't believe won - someone will correct me if I'm wrong.... but I hear it is a wonderful tournament that you can only participate in as a 9 or ten year old. I saw a highlight clip somewhere for this recently and it looked like a ton of fun. If communicated properly before the start of season should eliminate a lot of disgruntled parents. Looking at the 95 blades roster at the present they have two teams worth of names now that they must use for different tournaments, some parents may be happy to not spend the extra money if they had to go to the brick. I don't think its all bad if communicated properly and up front so everyone is aware how it going to work for the year. We all know there is talent other than the machine or blades and maybe this will give a couple a chance to participate in such an event.

Do you know what some of your money went towards?

[play4fun]

[quote="MrBoDangles"]

The model baffles me!

[quote]

Bobo -- Why are you concerned anyway? Have a kid on the team who's not traveling to tournaments? A friend's kid?

Do you know how much the weekend "temps" pay? Are the "rostered" kids only those who show up to practices?

Maybe the kids who show up to practices are the ones who are competing for a tournament spot?

Please enlighten me if you know. Otherwise, maybe you should give the coach a call and educate yourself on their model -- then you might not be so baffled.

[observer]

One missing piece of information here is how other Brick teams are formed. The Blades are doing it right. They own the Minnesota berth to the tournament and they do what they can to take the best possible team to the tournament. Other teams in the tournament will also be teams made up of kids from 5-6-7 teams. One team from all of Massachusetts, one from Michigan, one single team from some Canadian Provinces. This tournament is designed to be for the very best Squirts in in North America. There are virtually no single AAA organization teams that could attend and compete without bolstering their roster. That's the history of this particular tournament. Prospects is similar. They are all regional All-Star teams.

Rosters are posted on the Prospects site so you can get a sense of how other organizations do it.

http://www.prospectstourney.com/pindex2.php

[old goalie85]

When looking at the prospects I noticed two Mn teams Blades White, Starz of Mn. Any one know who the Starz of mn are?