Future of Kennedy hockey

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tomASS wrote:The first and primary purpose of a school system is to educate students.
Every thing after that is called extra-curricular activities and is a secondary purpose of the school system. You do not need to spend a minimum of 92 million dollars on brick and mortar to attempt to improve educational standards within a school system.

My stance has nothing to do with sport teams or additional opportunities for kids to play sports. By High School, one of the preparatory tasks is to make sure kids are ready for real life and the competition it holds. That is a parent's role too.

My view as always been, with all my kids, that if it is worth having it is worth earning. It doesn't hold as much value when it is provided to you without much effort being put forward.
tomASS- Don't get me wrong. I completely agree. Since this is a hockey site. I thought we we discussing the extra-curricular activities.

You wrote: and 25 years from now someone will be asking why District 112 spent well over 92 million on a structure that was flawed from the beginning with an inferior location and lack of available green space.

Let me ask: What did you want to see the school district do?

Very soon both cities will have their own identity. They're about to set the boundries for the new high school. I can't wait to hear the response from the community.
Please keep in mind that this is all part of a growing community. These are good problems. Please stay positive. :wink:
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blueblood wrote:These guys need to opt to play in Class A.

They are the worst program in D6 at the youth level.
Are you old enough to remember the battles between Minnetonka (I assume that is where you are from judging by your use of Skipperville) and Kennedy youth hockey teams back in the 80's and early 90's, they were one of the better programs in the state at that time. Cut them some slack, and let's hope they can get some leadership at the top.
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Kennedy had some really good teams in the 80's. Keep in mind that both Jefferson and Kennedy benefitted from Bloomington Lincoln closing.
It made both teams stronger. It actually helped Kennedy more so than Jefferson.

I think the problem with Kennedy is the fact that East Bloomington is a whole different world right now. I'm not sure if they have the numbers to compete in the Lake. It doesn't help when you have four players leave Kennedy this year to play at Jefferson. I have nothing but respect for any Bloomington school. But compared to the 80's everything is completely different.
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We were talking about schools so how can you fully agree on my point and also agree with your original point. If you don't agree with your original point then why make it? Your priorities of schools have changed?

let's see the following communities were also considering to be growth communities
Edina - was two now one, but turned the old one into a heck of a community center and athletic complex.
Bloomington - was 3 now 1.5
Hopkins was 2 now 1

shall I keep going? The argument for these HSs was that they were required for the anticipated growth projections at the time.

There is already plans for a 3rd HS school in District 112 in less than 10 years. That one, will be built in Victoria which deserved the new one currently being built on the wrong site in Chan. I'm positive 2 HS would the job of the projected 3. You have made my point that I have always made about the new school - we are spending 92 million for Chanhassen to get over their identity crisis. The blame goes to early district 112 decisions not to name the new Chaska HS (12 years ago) something that would have brought Chanhassen into the family.

The other thing the district could have done is far better planning, but they can't go back know so all my points of contention are moot and of little interest to very few, but since I like to debate:

1) All the land between the HS and the Target store, which is now housing development was offered up to the district for pennies of the real worth (4.8 million versus the 28 million it was sold to developers for). They had just past the referendum for the new Chaska high school so it was political suicide to go back and ask for more money. That would also show poor planning on what growth might really be.

2) They just had to build a stand alone 9th grade center less than half mile from the HS 5 years ago, one of only two in the country. This new school would help the district manage future growth for the next 15-20 years at the HS age group. Now because of unanticipated growth it will be converted to a new Junior High after the new Chan HS school is completed.

3) No one can convince me with that they have now done an adequate job of planning when a 3rd HS is now in the discussion phase. You may not have a problem with tax and spend, but I am positive I do when it goes to structures rather than programs of substance.

I don't know how one can be viewed negatively for being concerned about brick and mortar dollar expenditures in the name of better education and additional opportunities in extra-curricular activities when we know it is a failed and wasteful concept.

I am positive I will be elsewhere well before the 3rd HS is even presented to the public. I'm positive that I will still be around when the HS referendum to fund unanticipated operating costs of the 92 million +++ Chanhassen structure is on the ballot for a vote this fall.

But this is boring to everyone else besides the two of us......so buy me the beer you promised and we can talk about how the school district will be spending your income on Chanhassen's need for an identity,
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Post by BoogeyMan »

tomASS- One last response. I had no idea there was discussions for a 3rd high school. Now I change my mind.
I still believe there should be two high schools versus one mega school. But why not build the new high school in Victoria. More land. More potential growth for the future. Wow! If they build another high school in 10 years things will be watered down for many years to come.

I hate to admit this. (biting my tongue) But you make perfect sense. :x That hurt to admit that. :wink:

Sorry to the forum for talking high schools.
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Post by tomASS »

BoogeyMan wrote:
I hate to admit this. (biting my tongue) But you make perfect sense.
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