The NWSC is not a terrible conference, it is one of the best in the state, but i agree with every one else that Derek Loisel should not get drafted in the NHL. He couldn't even make his USHL junior team last year. He is no where near NHL quality, not even D1.hockey nut wrote:Derek Who, from where. He could not tie some of these guys skates. Wow 23 points in a terrible conference. Your right top 3 rounds. PS get me some of that weed your smoking.
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Not only is he not eligible, he's not even close. Remember, he's pretty young for his grade.hockeyfan43 wrote:can anyone shed some light on why buddish is not draft eligible?
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My Prediction is Ness will drop to the late 5th round or 6th by the time the Europeans are included and the GMs get cold feet about his size on draft day. He would have a hard time moving anyone out of the front of the net in the NHL, which is a big part of defense. He may be good in HS but he does not have what it takes to make it in the NHL.
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http://www.nhl.com/ext/NA_Skaters_Rank.pdf
Interesting link if you haven't seen it. Quite a few MN names in there.
Interesting link if you haven't seen it. Quite a few MN names in there.
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Have you heard of Neal Broten??wingmaster wrote:My Prediction is Ness will drop to the late 5th round or 6th by the time the Europeans are included and the GMs get cold feet about his size on draft day. He would have a hard time moving anyone out of the front of the net in the NHL, which is a big part of defense. He may be good in HS but he does not have what it takes to make it in the NHL.
Neal didn't play defense either. He's going to need to put on quite a bit of weight at the UofM to make a run at the pros. There's a lot of good college players that never make the big show.stickboy1956 wrote:Have you heard of Neal Broten??wingmaster wrote:My Prediction is Ness will drop to the late 5th round or 6th by the time the Europeans are included and the GMs get cold feet about his size on draft day. He would have a hard time moving anyone out of the front of the net in the NHL, which is a big part of defense. He may be good in HS but he does not have what it takes to make it in the NHL.
Take a look at a couple Roseau Alum. Bryan Lundbohm (5'10" 185lbs) was asst. captain of the Sioux, won a national championship, and playing in Europe right now. Dustin Byfuglien(6'4" 245lbs) never played college hockey, didn't even play varsity for Roseau, and he's playing defense for the Blackhawks.
my guess is he will be taken between 55-70 overall. it's not the 157 i would worry about as a scout it's the 5-9. he might have a tough time in the ahl showing an nhl team why he should make their roster.
Or he could turn out like a john-michael liles from the av's. but he scored 35-40 pts a yr at michigan state and is putting up the same #'s in the NHL. Those are some big numbers for a d-man and that's not playing east grand forks and st cloud tech twice! Maybe ness can do it...he's only 17. time will tell.
Or he could turn out like a john-michael liles from the av's. but he scored 35-40 pts a yr at michigan state and is putting up the same #'s in the NHL. Those are some big numbers for a d-man and that's not playing east grand forks and st cloud tech twice! Maybe ness can do it...he's only 17. time will tell.
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I agree with you that he'll have to develop physically a good amount to make it in the NHL. At the same time, it seems like the NHL is starting to be (a little) more open minded about smaller defensemen. Probably because the crack down on obstruction has made mobility more important on defense. We don't have those big oaf defensemen who can't skate out on the ice quite as much as we used to.61ache wrote:Neal didn't play defense either. He's going to need to put on quite a bit of weight at the UofM to make a run at the pros.
But they'll always favor size to some degree and he'll have to overcome that stigma to some extent.
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Yes, and I've also heard of Larry Olimb.stickboy1956 wrote:Have you heard of Neal Broten??wingmaster wrote:My Prediction is Ness will drop to the late 5th round or 6th by the time the Europeans are included and the GMs get cold feet about his size on draft day. He would have a hard time moving anyone out of the front of the net in the NHL, which is a big part of defense. He may be good in HS but he does not have what it takes to make it in the NHL.
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