Yuro?

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JoltDelivered
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Post by JoltDelivered »

Never heard of this program until reading this post.

Being the stickler for words and language that I am, I have a question for those that have used this instructor. His website says, "We make dreams come true."

That's a pretty lofty statement - is it true?

P.S Whats with the colored blades? :?
mnhcp
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Re: Yuro?

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seek & destroy wrote: The original question was 'is he worth the money?' I don't think that there is any clinic that is worth $450 fo 4 days skating nor is there anyone who is worth that kind of money per hour. You can't teach enough crammed into that short period of time to make a player that much better for the long haul.
I concur, the money for an association to hire him, is it worth the money? I depends. He does bring energy!

You mention $450 for 4 days? Compared to others, consider the value and I'm talking "camps" here. I believe if you are as well and by the way if you are it's 5 days.

I sign my kids up for 2 camps a year, I get an early bird discount and a multiple camp discount.

When it's all said and done it's $20.25 an hour which is less then most private camps which run $30 or so an hour. Obviously association run clinics are half that but we've tried many options and by far these offer the best value, result and overall convenience.
2 for cheating
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Post by 2 for cheating »

JoltDelivered wrote:Never heard of this program until reading this post.

Being the stickler for words and language that I am, I have a question for those that have used this instructor. His website says, "We make dreams come true."

That's a pretty lofty statement - is it true?

P.S Whats with the colored blades? :?
CAVEAT EMPTOR

You are absolutely correct about the advertising. I have overheard him say to a parent of a 12 year old "don't forget me when jr. makes it to the NHL".

He runs fantastic stuff stuff for HS age kids and most bantams. Many coaches agree that for the younger ages he is way over their head.

For those on here trying to convince the "believers", don't even try. If you have ever tried to help someone that has been conned, denial is a tough state of mind to overcome.

There is a huge problem with our sport with all of the guru's that have a fix for a problem that does not exist. Many parents think that if they spend enough money on little Billy with the right instructor they will have their little superstar all prepared for that career at the U.

I got news for you, if your kid ain't got the genetics, in the end he/she will be lucky to have played a shift for the HS team.

Yuro and his 6 figure salary Thank You!

In the meantime you can continue to pay large sums of money to watch guys like Yuro do flips on the ice (he is a phenominal athlete). You should also check out this movie http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0056262/ called "The Music Man". While you are are at it, try to find the stats from " his playing career in Germany" as advertised on the Northern Edge website, a search of a couple of pro hockey databases turns up a handfull of games in europe.

Don't call me a disgruntled parent either, that doesn't work, they are still in diapers, I am perfectly happy with my kids hockey experience thus far.
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flattop
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Post by flattop »

If you are going to throw out a statement about local board members getting pay offs from Yuro, you need to say what assocation and the board members you are talking about. Our assocation uses Yuro and we feel he does a fine job with our skaters. Your comments now throw a cloud over all the assocations and board members that are trying to offer a excellent teacher to there kids.
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Post by 2 for cheating »

You are absolutely correct. Edited.

You might want to remove your post to help me unring that bell...
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Chicken

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mnhcp wrote:Deleted
I loved your post, if there are two of us saying the same thing.....

:wink:
Jerry
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Post by Jerry »

All I can say about Yuro is that.He is awsome with the instruction and teaching it to the kids. Now he does not make 6 figures it come down to your ice time plus his fee which is less then you think like 150 an hour X 2 teams on the ice at once. The woodcrofts are very well know in the NHL with Todd Which was with Minnesota Wild and Washington Caps. His other brother is with The Ducks. I could go on and on but will not. I think you need to talk to him and find out what NEEHS has to offer before you make statements on HEAR say. My son plays for NEEHS and cannot wait until it starts back up this spring.
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Post by iwearmysunglassesatnight »

\. My son plays for NEEHS and cannot wait until it starts back up this spring.[/quote]

Are the NEEHS team still equal to a association B/C team? Or have they improved some? Last year, probably due to the mass mailing, they seemed to be like Showcase spring league teams.
Was a duster and paying for it?????
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Post by Jerry »

the 96 team did very well in Chi town shuffel. the 94 and 95 team struggel because they are from all over the USA this years team has players from Dallas Iowa Minn Wis Ill ND so no they do not win alot of games but my son is not there for the winning of games but for the instruction part. So from the sounds of it you are more concerned about winning. Now showcase, has teams like the Mission that play in the league under a different name. So are you now saying that they are a bad team and so is showcase? The 95 team last year played the top 3 teams at that time in the nation and yes they lost but not buy much.4-3 to team IL Ranked #1 at the time. When they played back here in Mn in the fall alot of the Mn players played for there regular AAA teams and the practice players played. Plus the showcase team have played about 20 games and the NAT's have played 2-3 or a total of 12 and the end of there season either way, my son is on the team for development not the 20- 0 record or 30 to 40 games in the summer with little to no practice. Levels of play, How do you really rate that. Take woodbury we had 17 Peewee teams last year and 1 A team. Then look at northern team like Warrod. They have VERY FEW wins but I bet they will be at state buy the time they reach high school and why, because they have a great DEVLOPMENT program and are not concerned with winning at the youth level. So If they are a B C level to you ok thats your opinon.
Game?
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Yuro fees.

Post by Game? »

I know for a fact that associations ( at least our association)pays Yuro or his staff $100 an hour plus ice time. On full ice, the association has been able to have two full teams out there. Without question, he brings energy to the ice.

I have to agree...there are skaters who simply hate him. A funny correlation though. Those same skaters are the ones who miss practice for most any reason, and are the ones messing around in line.

I think that the association intent was to have the coaches learn something from him. Our head coach used it at times as an excuse not to be there. IMHO, a good coach, confident in his abilities and open to ideas, would come away from the experience rethinking what intensity and game speed really means in a practice.

I believe that practices are habit forming....great drills..great intensity..Great Games and Habits. Poor habits, allowing half speed action= money spent over the summer breaking those bad habits!
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Re: Chicken

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2 for cheating wrote:
mnhcp wrote:Deleted
I loved your post, if there are two of us saying the same thing.....

:wink:
We weren't thinking the same thing....
old goalie85
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Post by old goalie85 »

This program just keeps getting bigger. Steve is still a great coach. Buyer Beware not for kids that don't like to be corrected. Not B & C level anymore.
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Post by jBlaze3000 »

My PeeWee player just did a 3 day holiday camp with these guys and loved it. Says he wants to do a full clinic in the summer. Yuro wasn't there but there was no difference in the way the clinic was run. I would recommend the Northern Edge clinics to any Squirt and older player who is serious about getting better.
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Post by RsmtMoose »

This was my experience with Yuro. He is a great skater and loud talker and very intense. He runs complex drills, but he can seem demeaning to a player if they mess up or the players don’t do the drill the way he wants. Now if you have a Mite aged boy, you may think twice about skating in a clinic with him. You might hear a lot of “you are doing it wrong!” Over and over again. If you’re lucky as I was, he will grab your 6 yrs olds facemask and make him cry and you will see your son skate off the ice. After 10 minutes of getting my son to compose himself in the locker room, I was able to get him to finish the first day of the clinic in which coach Yuro messed up and yelled at my son again. I had to explain to my son even coaches mess up just as sometime the skaters do. Now, I normally wouldn’t talk to the instructor after the first day’s clinic, but felt I had to if my son was going to come back I had too. I just ask him if he could be more positive with my son on the ice. My son finished the rest of the clinic and there were no more incidences for the rest of the clinic. Yuro seemed to control himself better and push the kids hard in a more positive way. Yuro asked me afterward if my son could play\tryout for his AAA team. I figured no way is my son ready for him in that setting. Three kids from our association played in his AAA program and said it didn’t go well. Promises not kept and someone else was put in as their coach. My son played for the Edge and had a great time with that team. Now he plays for a different AAA team. I think Yuro can be a great coach for the right appropriate aged kids and if they respond well to his style. Everybody is motivated differently, I prefer the positive motivation at the young ages or you could find yourself trying to convince your son to get back on the ice.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

RsmtMoose wrote:This was my experience with Yuro. He is a great skater and loud talker and very intense. He runs complex drills, but he can seem demeaning to a player if they mess up or the players don’t do the drill the way he wants. Now if you have a Mite aged boy, you may think twice about skating in a clinic with him. You might hear a lot of “you are doing it wrong!” Over and over again. If you’re lucky as I was, he will grab your 6 yrs olds facemask and make him cry and you will see your son skate off the ice. After 10 minutes of getting my son to compose himself in the locker room, I was able to get him to finish the first day of the clinic in which coach Yuro messed up and yelled at my son again. I had to explain to my son even coaches mess up just as sometime the skaters do. Now, I normally wouldn’t talk to the instructor after the first day’s clinic, but felt I had to if my son was going to come back I had too. I just ask him if he could be more positive with my son on the ice. My son finished the rest of the clinic and there were no more incidences for the rest of the clinic. Yuro seemed to control himself better and push the kids hard in a more positive way. Yuro asked me afterward if my son could play\tryout for his AAA team. I figured no way is my son ready for him in that setting. Three kids from our association played in his AAA program and said it didn’t go well. Promises not kept and someone else was put in as their coach. My son played for the Edge and had a great time with that team. Now he plays for a different AAA team. I think Yuro can be a great coach for the right appropriate aged kids and if they respond well to his style. Everybody is motivated differently, I prefer the positive motivation at the young ages or you could find yourself trying to convince your son to get back on the ice.
Please tell me this was a joke..
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Post by trippedovertheblueline »

Probably not a joke. My child had somewhat the same experience. But when it came to filling a spot on a roster ($$$$) he was asked to participate. No thanks, I can wait for high school for the kid to be torn apart.
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Post by hockeydad0930 »

Nope, it wasn't a joke. My son was part of the same clinic where this happened. Yuro is very intense, and that's not a bad thing...just buyer beware. Your kid needs to be able to handle some harsh realities when you're on the ice with Yuro. My son skated with his AAA program for one year, and he improved no doubt.

Yuro brings a lot to the table and runs a great, high energy practice, but the only fault I had was too much time with the kids on one knee and him talking. A lot of this is due to his complex drills that are not always easy for younger kids to grasp, and he has to stop the drills numerous times to explain them again.

Great coach, intense as can be, but as stated, not for everyone.
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Post by dogeatdog1 »

hockeydad0930 wrote:Nope, it wasn't a joke. My son was part of the same clinic where this happened. Yuro is very intense, and that's not a bad thing...just buyer beware. Your kid needs to be able to handle some harsh realities when you're on the ice with Yuro. My son skated with his AAA program for one year, and he improved no doubt.

Yuro brings a lot to the table and runs a great, high energy practice, but the only fault I had was too much time with the kids on one knee and him talking. A lot of this is due to his complex drills that are not always easy for younger kids to grasp, and he has to stop the drills numerous times to explain them again.

Great coach, intense as can be, but as stated, not for everyone.
NO FLIPPIN WAY!!!BUYER BE WARE? a six year old gettting grabbed by the mask and crying? IF this happened YURO and the parent should be embarrassed in letting a kindergarten kid get bullied by a guy that thinks he can teach kids to play hockey!!!!! I don't care who you are or what you can teach there is NO WAY you should make a 6 year old cry over not being able to do a drill ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?!!!!!
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Post by spin-o-rama »

Last year at Braemar there was a commotion on the East rink. Yuro was running a camp on the ice. A dad was in the shooting cage with his 3 mite aged kids. Yuro wanted them out of there. He said their stickhandling and shooting were distracting his players from concentrating on their scrimmage. It was extremely lame. He is a little hothead in my opinion.
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Post by jBlaze3000 »

dogeatdog1 wrote:
hockeydad0930 wrote:Nope, it wasn't a joke. My son was part of the same clinic where this happened. Yuro is very intense, and that's not a bad thing...just buyer beware. Your kid needs to be able to handle some harsh realities when you're on the ice with Yuro. My son skated with his AAA program for one year, and he improved no doubt.

Yuro brings a lot to the table and runs a great, high energy practice, but the only fault I had was too much time with the kids on one knee and him talking. A lot of this is due to his complex drills that are not always easy for younger kids to grasp, and he has to stop the drills numerous times to explain them again.

Great coach, intense as can be, but as stated, not for everyone.
NO FLIPPIN WAY!!!BUYER BE WARE? a six year old gettting grabbed by the mask and crying? IF this happened YURO and the parent should be embarrassed in letting a kindergarten kid get bullied by a guy that thinks he can teach kids to play hockey!!!!! I don't care who you are or what you can teach there is NO WAY you should make a 6 year old cry over not being able to do a drill ARE YOU PEOPLE NUTS?!!!!!
This surprises me if true but I guess it's not out of the realm of comprehension. Like I said in an earlier post, I would recommend their clinics to anyone Squirt age or older who is serious about getting better at hockey. I would not put a 6 year old in a Northern Edge clinic and if they are marketing to that age group they should probably stop or else dial down the intensity a couple notches.
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Post by RsmtMoose »

Yes my emotions at the time were heightened to say the least and it would not have been a good idea to engage the instructor after the day’s clinic ended, but I did. I had no previous experience with Yuro. I could have gone to my association and maybe asked for a refund and that we would not be participating in the clinic, but decided to see if it we could work this out. I calmly talked with Yuro and then introduced him to my son. Maybe with the helmet off he could see and connect to the boy who was very young. He said some nice things to my son and my son felt much better. I made the decision after the conversation we could continue to try the clinic. Like I said after the first day, Yuro was more positive and the drills seemed to go better for all the boys. Should I be embarrassed that my son was bullied, maybe, but I couldn’t control that he was bullied. I can make a decision after it happens. Quit or stick to the commitment and try to work it out. I would like to think that if something else would have happened after my conversation with him, I wound not have been so calm in my next conversation. Now, the reasons for my posts are just to let you know what happened in my situation with Yuro and what you might see from him on the ice. Good or bad there are many different ways to motivate players. Some ways, I feel, are inappropriate at young ages. I have not seen Yuro or any of his clinics for 2 ½ years. Maybe he has changed when instructing very young kids, maybe not.
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Yuro?

Post by ENJOYTHEGAME »

Can Yuro be too intense? For some. His drills can be complex but they are fantastic for development, therefore they require the attention and effort of all players on the ice. If you're looking for a coach who doesn't care if your kid improves or just wants to collect your cash and not care if your kid does the drills properly but gives your kids hugs and lollipops go somewhere else.

Yuro loves the kids, and the kids who are there to improve love and respect him.

He is the best skill development trainer around, want proof???

Shattuck's Tier 1 Bantams have only 4 players who played PeeWee hockey last year, three of those kids were trained by Yuro, it takes great training and ability to make that jump. (all three are minnesota kids, two were on the 96 Reebok Nationals).

Hall of Famer and St. Louis Blues Executive Al MacInnis unconditionally recommends Yuro to those seeking advanced training.

Yuro is the lead instructor for the St. Loius Blues rookies and skill development camps and heads the development camps for the Sioux City Muskateers.

Yuro, not for everyone just those who seek to be their best and desire to learn what it takes to play beyond association and High School.

Want other great trainers see Joe Dzeidzic skills, Lance Pitlick (stickhandling) and Scott Bjugstad (for shooting).
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Post by MN_Hcky_Coach »

No matter what his intensity level is, you still don't push kids until they cry or grab their face mask. 6 year old kids have the attention span of 12 seconds or less, and you need to adjust your drills and explanations to deal with that.

This seems to prove that parents really do not look out for their kids in the right respect, if parents are putting up with this type of behavior from a coach they should be ashamed of themselves, and obviously want hockey more for them then their child.

I deal with kids that age and no thing more than love for the game should be emphasized. Even higher than skill development, love for the game. Not to mention, even high level coaches do not act like this, what are we teaching the future of the game?

As a coach, with many years under my belt, at many levels, I cannot condone this behavior, nor would I do nothing more than call him out if we ever have a conversation. There is no place for behavior like this in youth hockey, and coaches like this embarrass us all.
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Post by old goalie85 »

This will be our fourth year with steve, Travis Dundore, and the rest of the Ree-bok Nats. My94 improved the most by far. 98 improved as well. My daughter I'm not so sure she is a 00 skated as a practice player last year w/ boys. My two younger 01 /02 might be a little young for some of the drills. Have never been grabbed, made cry, swore @, punched, kicked, or emotionally abused. Just our take.
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