Rochester Century Panthers

Roseauverrated · Post by **Roseauverrated** » Thu Mar 05, 2009 4:49 pm

CottonMcKnight wrote:What do you think the chances are for Century to make it to state and place in the top 3?

0.1% chance. For lack of a better term, this team just sucks compared to the top teams in the state. They're lucky they don't seed all 8 teams at state or they would for sure get the #8 seed. The only way I can see them with a chance at making it past the first round is if they are lucky and draw the 4 seed.

Catkid17 · Post by **Catkid17** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:28 am

Century can compete with anyone no question about that just top 3 thats a total no never gonna happen, their 1AA i dont think they have even been in the final since '77 when JM won it.

DmanDad1980 · Post by **DmanDad1980** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:40 am

Catkid17 wrote:Century can compete with anyone no question about that just top 3 thats a total no never gonna happen, their 1AA i dont think they have even been in the final since '77 when JM won it.

'79 John Marshall - Loss to Edina
'83 Burnsville - Loss to Hill Murray
'85 Burnsville - Beat Hill Murray
'86 Burnsville - Beat Hill Murray
'87 Burnsville - Loss to Bloomington Kennedy
'89 John Marshall - Loss to Bloomington Jefferson

As you can see, Rochester has been represented two more times since the 77 Championship... The 80's were good to 1AA...

DmanDad1980 · Post by **DmanDad1980** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 7:50 am

Century has been playing well since Christmas...

Lost many games early w/ 4-5 kids suspended for first half of the season... Got the kids back, beat a very good Duluth East team in Duluth (East played 2nd string goalie, but a win is a win)... Recovered in Big 9 Conference to win the second half of the season, and the Conference title... got through some concussion problems to three kids in the last game of regular season, and first game of sections, but played very well versus rival Mayo and dominated a Lakeville team they should have to reach State...

World beaters no... Trouble for a seeded team other than the Lake Conference schools in a one game scenario, maybe... O-2, don't think so...

That's my take...
IMO

StillAnEagle · Post by **StillAnEagle** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 10:30 am

DmanDad1980 wrote:
Catkid17 wrote:Century can compete with anyone no question about that just top 3 thats a total no never gonna happen, their 1AA i dont think they have even been in the final since '77 when JM won it.
'79 John Marshall - Loss to Edina
'83 Burnsville - Loss to Hill Murray
'85 Burnsville - Beat Hill Murray
'86 Burnsville - Beat Hill Murray
'87 Burnsville - Loss to Bloomington Kennedy
'89 John Marshall - Loss to Bloomington Jefferson

As you can see, Rochester has been represented two more times since the 77 Championship... The 80's were good to 1AA...

79 and 89 are the only years that truly count in this equation. The sandwiched years don't count - Burnsville is section 2AA now. When people talk about section 1AA they are typically referring to Rochester teams and the occasional Albert Lea team. If Rochester wants to get better they need to schedule more games with top 10 teams - being that their conference is so weak.

DCwildcats · Post by **DCwildcats** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:09 am

StillAnEagle · Post by **StillAnEagle** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:23 am

DCwildcats wrote:0-1-0 | 1-7 | at White Bear Lake Area (5AA) | 11/29/08 Aldrich Arena
1-1-0 | 6-3 | Tartan (4AA) | 12/02/08 Rochester Recreation Arena
1-2-0 | 3-4 | Lakeville North (1AA) | 12/04/08 Rochester Recreation Center
2-2-0 | 8-0 | at Austin (1A) | 12/11/08 Riverside Arena
2-3-0 | 3-5 | Albert Lea (1A) | 12/13/08 Rochester Recreation Center
3-3-0 | 5-4 | at Owatonna (1AA) | 12/16/08 Four Seasons Centre
PPD | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 12/20/08 Rochester Recreation Center
3-4-0 | 1-4 | at Benilde-St. Margaret’s (6AA) | 12/23/08 St. Louis Park Recreation Center
4-4-0 | 7-0 | New Richmond (WI) | 12/29/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Quarterfinal
4-5-0 | 3-4 OT | Fargo South (ND) | 12/30/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Semifinal
4-6-0 | 0-3 | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 12/31/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Third Place Game
4-7-0 | 3-4 | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 01/03/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-7-0 | 4-3 | Rosemount (3AA) | 01/08/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-8-0 | 3-4 | Rochester John Marshall (1AA) | 01/13/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-9-0 | 4-5 OT | Lakeville South (1AA) | 01/16/09 Rochester Recreation Center
6-9-0 | 3-2 | at Duluth East (7AA) | 01/23/09 Heritage Arena
6-10-0 | 1-6 | at Duluth Marshall (7A) | 01/24/09 MARS Lakeview Arena
7-10-0 | 7-2 | at Albert Lea (1A) | 01/29/09 Albert Lea City Arena
8-10-0 | 8-2 | Mankato East/Loyola (1A) | 01/31/09 Rochester Recreation Center
9-10-0 | 7-3 | Faribault (1A) | 02/03/09 Rochester Recreation Center
10-10-0 | 7-2 | at Winona (1AA) | 02/10/09 Bud King Ice Arena
11-10-0 | 6-1 | at Rochester John Marshall (1AA) | 02/12/09 Rochester Recreation Center
12-10-0 | 5-0 | Owatonna (1AA) | 02/14/09 Rochester Recreation Center
12-10-1 | 4-4 TIE | at Mankato West (1A) | 02/17/09 All Seasons Arena
12-10-2 | 2-2 TIE | at Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 02/19/09 Rochester Graham Arena
12-11-2 | 1-3 | at Roseville Area (4AA) | 02/21/09 Roseville Ice Arena

If you look at their non - conference schedule - it's not that weak. I really think they got a good match - up against Blaine, and if their goalie plays well, they could surpise some people...

I still think Blaine will win, but it could be a tight game - somethink like 3-1 or 4-2

Like I said, if they want to get better an gain some real respect, then schedule some games with schools that consistantly produce top 10 teams. Teams like EP, Edina, Tonka, Centennial, Blaine, MG, Holy Angels, etc... Heck even some of the top 20 programs would get you there. You play 3 of those teams and have good showings, you'll gain respect...

I think Rochester can produce good teams, but they'll never be ready for championship play/pace until they face some of these programs.

another_geno · Post by **another_geno** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:28 am

StillAnEagle wrote:
DCwildcats wrote:0-1-0 | 1-7 | at White Bear Lake Area (5AA) | 11/29/08 Aldrich Arena
1-1-0 | 6-3 | Tartan (4AA) | 12/02/08 Rochester Recreation Arena
1-2-0 | 3-4 | Lakeville North (1AA) | 12/04/08 Rochester Recreation Center
2-2-0 | 8-0 | at Austin (1A) | 12/11/08 Riverside Arena
2-3-0 | 3-5 | Albert Lea (1A) | 12/13/08 Rochester Recreation Center
3-3-0 | 5-4 | at Owatonna (1AA) | 12/16/08 Four Seasons Centre
PPD | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 12/20/08 Rochester Recreation Center
3-4-0 | 1-4 | at Benilde-St. Margaret’s (6AA) | 12/23/08 St. Louis Park Recreation Center
4-4-0 | 7-0 | New Richmond (WI) | 12/29/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Quarterfinal
4-5-0 | 3-4 OT | Fargo South (ND) | 12/30/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Semifinal
4-6-0 | 0-3 | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 12/31/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Third Place Game
4-7-0 | 3-4 | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 01/03/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-7-0 | 4-3 | Rosemount (3AA) | 01/08/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-8-0 | 3-4 | Rochester John Marshall (1AA) | 01/13/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-9-0 | 4-5 OT | Lakeville South (1AA) | 01/16/09 Rochester Recreation Center
6-9-0 | 3-2 | at Duluth East (7AA) | 01/23/09 Heritage Arena
6-10-0 | 1-6 | at Duluth Marshall (7A) | 01/24/09 MARS Lakeview Arena
7-10-0 | 7-2 | at Albert Lea (1A) | 01/29/09 Albert Lea City Arena
8-10-0 | 8-2 | Mankato East/Loyola (1A) | 01/31/09 Rochester Recreation Center
9-10-0 | 7-3 | Faribault (1A) | 02/03/09 Rochester Recreation Center
10-10-0 | 7-2 | at Winona (1AA) | 02/10/09 Bud King Ice Arena
11-10-0 | 6-1 | at Rochester John Marshall (1AA) | 02/12/09 Rochester Recreation Center
12-10-0 | 5-0 | Owatonna (1AA) | 02/14/09 Rochester Recreation Center
12-10-1 | 4-4 TIE | at Mankato West (1A) | 02/17/09 All Seasons Arena
12-10-2 | 2-2 TIE | at Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 02/19/09 Rochester Graham Arena
12-11-2 | 1-3 | at Roseville Area (4AA) | 02/21/09 Roseville Ice Arena

If you look at their non - conference schedule - it's not that weak. I really think they got a good match - up against Blaine, and if their goalie plays well, they could surpise some people...

I still think Blaine will win, but it could be a tight game - somethink like 3-1 or 4-2
Like I said, if they want to get better an gain some real respect, then schedule some games with schools that consistantly produce top 10 teams. Teams like EP, Edina, Tonka, Centennial, Blaine, MG, Holy Angels, etc... Heck even some of the top 20 programs would get you there. You play 3 of those teams and have good showings, you'll gain respect...

I think Rochester can produce good teams, but they'll never be ready for championship play/pace until they face some of these programs.

Duluth East, Duluth Marshal, Whitebear,Roseville,Tartan and Benild..thats pretty good, and they have played Edina the last two years but Edina chose to drop them this year so they are trying atleast...

howdypartiner · Post by **howdypartiner** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:29 am

when i played there we played BSM who was a top 5 team in class A
Roseville was a top 10 team
St Cloud Tech was a top 20 team
Edina was a top 10 team
Tartan was a top 10 team
Duluth East was a top 10 team
Fargo South was teh top team in Nodak

There is only so much you can do as far as a schedule is concerned. Thats a tough non conference schedule if you ask me. I think he coaching staff has done a fantastic job scheduling tough non conference games in the past to get them ready for their post season runs.

tardy4mr.hockey · Post by **tardy4mr.hockey** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 11:50 am

it is the state tournament and anything can happen, but i dont see them even getting past the bengals

DmanDad1980 · Post by **DmanDad1980** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 1:34 pm

StillAnEagle wrote:
DmanDad1980 wrote:
Catkid17 wrote:Century can compete with anyone no question about that just top 3 thats a total no never gonna happen, their 1AA i dont think they have even been in the final since '77 when JM won it.
'79 John Marshall - Loss to Edina
'83 Burnsville - Loss to Hill Murray
'85 Burnsville - Beat Hill Murray
'86 Burnsville - Beat Hill Murray
'87 Burnsville - Loss to Bloomington Kennedy
'89 John Marshall - Loss to Bloomington Jefferson

As you can see, Rochester has been represented two more times since the 77 Championship... The 80's were good to 1AA...
79 and 89 are the only years that truly count in this equation. The sandwiched years don't count - Burnsville is section 2AA now. When people talk about section 1AA they are typically referring to Rochester teams and the occasional Albert Lea team. If Rochester wants to get better they need to schedule more games with top 10 teams - being that their conference is so weak.

You must be very young...

Sandwich years don't count huh... I played against these teams during these years and you do not discount these years...

Section 1 or Region 1 was one of the best in the state year in year out, from '75 through the 80's...
Bloomington Jefferson
Bloomington Kennedy
Bloomington Lincoln
Burnsville
Rochester John Marshall
Rochester Mayo

Yes, today's 1AA is weak, and yes I agree that the Rochester's must schedule harder competition to become better and to offset the Big 9 schedule, and Rochester may have to try different approaches to developing more kids at the youth level...

Please do not simply dismiss history, it always has a way of coming back around... Section restructuring is coming, Lakeville schools and youth programs are getting better, Rochester will have it's teams, there is a better future for 1AA down the road...

another_geno · Post by **another_geno** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 2:57 pm

Yes, today's 1AA is weak, and yes I agree that the Rochester's must schedule harder competition to become better and to offset the Big 9 schedule, and Rochester may have to try different approaches to developing more kids at the youth level...
Please do not simply dismiss history, it always has a way of coming back around... Section restructuring is coming, Lakeville schools and youth programs are getting better, Rochester will have it's teams, there is a better future for 1AA down the road...[/quote]

i think the rochester public schools will begin to struggle in coming years due to the fact that the bantam coaches are all pitching tents over lourdes and brain washing all the kids to go there that have any talent... and alot of people will send there kids there for coaching reasons as well not that the reasons are legit

gopherhockey21 · Post by **gopherhockey21** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:09 pm

CottonMcKnight wrote:What do you think the chances are for Century to make it to state and place in the top 3?

If they played the way like they did against Mayo and North they have a good chance. They need to stay out of the box at state.

Sioux Fan · Post by **Sioux Fan** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 3:20 pm

Not to mention Austin beat the defending champs Bvlle at Bvlle in the Quarter finals back in the glory days.

blue_liner · Post by **blue_liner** » Sat Mar 07, 2009 5:15 pm

i think the rochester public schools will begin to struggle in coming years due to the fact that the bantam coaches are all pitching tents over lourdes and brain washing all the kids to go there that have any talent... and alot of people will send there kids there for coaching reasons as well not that the reasons are legit

can we please not get into the whole rochester youth thing again? maybe after State we can start that topic up again.

The BuLLfrog Bomber · Post by **The BuLLfrog Bomber** » Sun Mar 08, 2009 1:15 am

[quote="StillAnEagle"] I think Rochester can produce good teams, but they'll never be ready for championship play/pace until they face some of these programs.[/quote]

That is because roch spreads through 4 schools.. if there was one or two schools, they would be just as good as the cities teams

Drew14 · Post by **Drew14** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:13 pm

The BuLLfrog er wrote:
StillAnEagle wrote: I think Rochester can produce good teams, but they'll never be ready for championship play/pace until they face some of these programs.

That is because roch spreads through 4 schools.. if there was one or two schools, they would be just as good as the cities teams

agreed. i think that roch should keep lourades, but just combine one of the schools or all of them,it would be a big school though. thats the only thing.. otherwise rochester i think would be pretty darn good.

gitter · Post by **gitter** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 2:29 pm

The BuLLfrog Bomber wrote:
StillAnEagle wrote: I think Rochester can produce good teams, but they'll never be ready for championship play/pace until they face some of these programs.

That is because roch spreads through 4 schools.. if there was one or two schools, they would be just as good as the cities teams

Duluth has 4 schools, and has roughly the same population as Rochester, yet seems to be able to field a quality team (if not 2 quality teams) every year

Papa Bergundy · Post by **Papa Bergundy** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:01 pm

another_geno wrote:
StillAnEagle wrote:
DCwildcats wrote:0-1-0 | 1-7 | at White Bear Lake Area (5AA) | 11/29/08 Aldrich Arena
1-1-0 | 6-3 | Tartan (4AA) | 12/02/08 Rochester Recreation Arena
1-2-0 | 3-4 | Lakeville North (1AA) | 12/04/08 Rochester Recreation Center
2-2-0 | 8-0 | at Austin (1A) | 12/11/08 Riverside Arena
2-3-0 | 3-5 | Albert Lea (1A) | 12/13/08 Rochester Recreation Center
3-3-0 | 5-4 | at Owatonna (1AA) | 12/16/08 Four Seasons Centre
PPD | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 12/20/08 Rochester Recreation Center
3-4-0 | 1-4 | at Benilde-St. Margaret’s (6AA) | 12/23/08 St. Louis Park Recreation Center
4-4-0 | 7-0 | New Richmond (WI) | 12/29/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Quarterfinal
4-5-0 | 3-4 OT | Fargo South (ND) | 12/30/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Semifinal
4-6-0 | 0-3 | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 12/31/08 Kiwanis/Wells Fargo Festival | Third Place Game
4-7-0 | 3-4 | Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 01/03/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-7-0 | 4-3 | Rosemount (3AA) | 01/08/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-8-0 | 3-4 | Rochester John Marshall (1AA) | 01/13/09 Rochester Recreation Center
5-9-0 | 4-5 OT | Lakeville South (1AA) | 01/16/09 Rochester Recreation Center
6-9-0 | 3-2 | at Duluth East (7AA) | 01/23/09 Heritage Arena
6-10-0 | 1-6 | at Duluth Marshall (7A) | 01/24/09 MARS Lakeview Arena
7-10-0 | 7-2 | at Albert Lea (1A) | 01/29/09 Albert Lea City Arena
8-10-0 | 8-2 | Mankato East/Loyola (1A) | 01/31/09 Rochester Recreation Center
9-10-0 | 7-3 | Faribault (1A) | 02/03/09 Rochester Recreation Center
10-10-0 | 7-2 | at Winona (1AA) | 02/10/09 Bud King Ice Arena
11-10-0 | 6-1 | at Rochester John Marshall (1AA) | 02/12/09 Rochester Recreation Center
12-10-0 | 5-0 | Owatonna (1AA) | 02/14/09 Rochester Recreation Center
12-10-1 | 4-4 TIE | at Mankato West (1A) | 02/17/09 All Seasons Arena
12-10-2 | 2-2 TIE | at Rochester Mayo (1AA) | 02/19/09 Rochester Graham Arena
12-11-2 | 1-3 | at Roseville Area (4AA) | 02/21/09 Roseville Ice Arena

If you look at their non - conference schedule - it's not that weak. I really think they got a good match - up against Blaine, and if their goalie plays well, they could surpise some people...

I still think Blaine will win, but it could be a tight game - somethink like 3-1 or 4-2
Like I said, if they want to get better an gain some real respect, then schedule some games with schools that consistantly produce top 10 teams. Teams like EP, Edina, Tonka, Centennial, Blaine, MG, Holy Angels, etc... Heck even some of the top 20 programs would get you there. You play 3 of those teams and have good showings, you'll gain respect...

I think Rochester can produce good teams, but they'll never be ready for championship play/pace until they face some of these programs.

Duluth East, Duluth Marshal, Whitebear,Roseville,Tartan and Benild..thats pretty good, and they have played Edina the last two years but Edina chose to drop them this year so they are trying atleast...

What's the relevance of them playing a "tough" schedule if they lose all the tough games they play. East would beat Century 9 out of 10 times, especially with their starting goalie in net.

They beat Tartan which is impressive, but the second game of the season is also irrelevant at this point. Losses at 3-1, 4-1, 6-1, 7-1 to these other teams is not a good sign.

Blaine ought to be lickin their chops seeing that they got Century in the first round. They beat Centennial 7-1, and I don't see the Felines from Century causing them anymore trouble. Sorry folks; outlook is grim.

DotaDangler · Post by **DotaDangler** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:01 pm

Yeah Rochester is the third biggest city in Minnesota, I dont think being spread over four schools is that big of a deal.

SEMNHOCKEYFAN · Post by **SEMNHOCKEYFAN** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:11 pm

As useal......its the typical topic being brought up and i am going to again. Thats the youth progams.....

koontz711 · Post by **koontz711** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:40 pm

century and moorhead will be going to and out no chance that either team wins a game in the show this year

The Talon · Post by **The Talon** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:51 pm

Whats wrong with Rochester's youth programs? Arent they pretty solid?

SEMNHOCKEYFAN · Post by **SEMNHOCKEYFAN** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:18 pm

Well there has always been talk on these that the way rochester does the youth programs with the north and south instead of by schools creates a problem....if anyone knows and would insight on this thatll help

nipeshow18 · Post by **nipeshow18** » Mon Mar 09, 2009 4:22 pm

The Talon wrote:Whats wrong with Rochester's youth programs? Arent they pretty solid?

They don't field enough A teams to feed that many schools. They generally in the past had two A teams, Rochester North and South, but I haven't really followed it as closely recently so i do not know what they are doing now. But still, two teams feeding 4 schools. It just doesn't work, they do not have enough kids getting the highest level of competition at the youth level and it hurts them when they get to high school.

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