Eveleth-Gilbert 8, Ely 3 tonight at Hoyt Lakes.
Heard part of the game on WELY. Sounds like Ely's lack of depth hurt them a lot tonight. I'm surprised because Eveleth lost so badly to the Falls. Expected more of an even game.
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Ely is in trouble like many of the range hockey towns of old, however, I'll take one senior in particular, Swanson, and put him on any "contending" team in Minnesota's A and he'll play their 1st line. Let's not forget there are some talented skaters on these obscure teams up here that never get the attention or recognition they deserve. Here's to all those kids out there who have the talent to play at the next level and no one ever turns the rock over to look.
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What's the difference, the truth is he's a nice player. I see lot's of player's mentioned. Just read the post's under this heading. The point was even though a program is struggling there are talented players who have worked hard, dedicated their time to the sport and they go unnoticed because the team isn't considered competitive he was just a good example of that. Thanks for your comment "Go Wild".
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Yes, there are nice players that get overlooked. How about this: What if there were 2 D1 recruits, 4 players likely going to juniors, and a handfull of all-conference first teamers on the team. Yes, the team would get noticed, the question: Does anyone else on the team get noticed besides the two d1 recruits???? Probably not.40below wrote:What's the difference, the truth is he's a nice player. I see lot's of player's mentioned. Just read the post's under this heading. The point was even though a program is struggling there are talented players who have worked hard, dedicated their time to the sport and they go unnoticed because the team isn't considered competitive he was just a good example of that. Thanks for your comment "Go Wild".
Bemidji State Universtiy players: Tyler Lerhke, Park Rapids HS
Kurt Knott, Red Lake Falls HS
Todd Knott, Red Lake Falls HS
Bryce Methven, Mora HS
Bill Methven, Mora HS
Joey Benik from St. Fancis is committed to St. Cloud State Universtiy.
I'll say that some of the teams mentioned had breakout years, some didn't though. And if they did, a lot of people laughed because everyone knows they are low level programs, and the teams didn't do much outside of their regular schedules.
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what is a true standout. every kid can be analyzed on the basis of his ability irregardless of the team of he plays on.
What I was getting at is that it's my understanding that Ely has some nice players, but none at the level of a Fink, Stellmach or Levar from a few years back. Add Jankowski to that list too. If you disagree, that's certainly your right. It's a matter of opinion.
Ely made it to the section semifinals in 2000 and won something like 16 or 17 games the following year. Those guys were the core of that team.
Ely made it to the section semifinals in 2000 and won something like 16 or 17 games the following year. Those guys were the core of that team.
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I understand. When you look at the team in 2000 that is what your looking at. I am talking about the individual player. Teams help individual players look good. Happens all the time. Who does ely co/op with.
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true they should but they need work first because they havent been winning lately but back to the standing out part you dont need to be on a good team to get noticed like ely has alot of people that get looked at like colin moberly, nick levar, and the golie puzel last year, and plenty more all you need is the talent.edinahornetkid24 wrote:What Ely's program should do is schedule a couple of good teams at home and get their team excited to play and maybe even give them a run for their money, maybe this will get young kids in Ely excited about hockey again.
Yeah I totally agree with u though 40below Sammie is a great player and also a great teammate! But I think if u have the talent then someone is bound to notice it even if he is on a bad team. He actually should be able to stand out more than if he was on a team that had 3 solid lines. I don't know does that make sense?
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Go Wild. I used this kid as an example. right now ely's team is young. What I'm saying is there is predetermined factor built into scouting to follow teams that are "contenders" to conference titles and state titles. There may even be a bias towards a team like ely at the IRC level. Makes it hard for Kids to break through to the next level. As far as your observation maybe and maybe not. A lot of what goes on on the ice is determined by what every skater can contribute to the play. If the play is at a lower level than what a particular skater is able to do it affects his game. Put him on a team where there are three solid lines and who knows what the outcome will be. Will he stand out or not depends, but it is all subjective. My first entry was that scouts owe it to the game and kids to turn every rock over. No politics, no hype, just honest work on their part. You kids skate for 15 years by the time your seniors and it deserves that kind of an assessment. Plenty of kids are mentioned on this forum. Are they standouts because they have the skills or because they have a strong team supporting them or both. By the way I heard how hard some of you kids are working. Best of luck to all of you.
40below, players with exceptional skills will rise to the top, no matter the caliber of their team, or the caliber of the team opponents. The ice hockey coaching network/fraternity is extremely tight - no one, absolutely NO ONE - will go unnoticed if they have the skill, talent, and potential for improvement required to play at the next level.
If an Ely(substitute Anytown USA here) kid has the potential to make it at the next level, everyone that needs to know about him, already knows about him.
If an Ely(substitute Anytown USA here) kid has the potential to make it at the next level, everyone that needs to know about him, already knows about him.
Usually because he lit everyone up in bantams, and likely in peewees....Nonamer wrote:40below, players with exceptional skills will rise to the top, no matter the caliber of their team, or the caliber of the team opponents. The ice hockey coaching network/fraternity is extremely tight - no one, absolutely NO ONE - will go unnoticed if they have the skill, talent, and potential for improvement required to play at the next level.
If an Ely(substitute Anytown USA here) kid has the potential to make it at the next level, everyone that needs to know about him, already knows about him.
defense, not the case at all. Every player develops at a different rate. You'll find situations both ways - some start early, some start late. Some hit plateaus and never get better, others don't show until they get the right kind of exposure.
Exceptions, however, abound. In my experience, the politics unique to youth hockey structure K-12 dictates who shines the brightest, the earliest, and to a much greater extent than most realize or will admit to. Being a coach's or team manager's son or daughter creates an unbelievable influence on how a particular player is viewed, or what kind of opportunity presents itself for the particular player.
Guess my point is players do reach a performance level where they either have it or they don't. The cream rises to the top.
Exceptions, however, abound. In my experience, the politics unique to youth hockey structure K-12 dictates who shines the brightest, the earliest, and to a much greater extent than most realize or will admit to. Being a coach's or team manager's son or daughter creates an unbelievable influence on how a particular player is viewed, or what kind of opportunity presents itself for the particular player.
Guess my point is players do reach a performance level where they either have it or they don't. The cream rises to the top.
I do not need to be schooled in the politics of youth hockey, you're preachin' to the choir. I also don't need to be told that players develope at different rates etc..... I will say that most people knew of Danny Irmen before he left Fargo to play high school hockey in Grand Forks with another well known comodity at the time named Ryan Putolny. Most people who played against Ben Hanowski and Jared Festler had them marked in at least Bantams. There's also the case of Garret Raboin from Detroit Lakes, while he was solid as a youth player, he played on a lot of B teams through the years and really only was a great standout in high school. He whent on to juniors and now plays at St. CLoud State.Nonamer wrote:defense, not the case at all. Every player develops at a different rate. You'll find situations both ways - some start early, some start late. Some hit plateaus and never get better, others don't show until they get the right kind of exposure.
Exceptions, however, abound. In my experience, the politics unique to youth hockey structure K-12 dictates who shines the brightest, the earliest, and to a much greater extent than most realize or will admit to. Being a coach's or team manager's son or daughter creates an unbelievable influence on how a particular player is viewed, or what kind of opportunity presents itself for the particular player.
Guess my point is players do reach a performance level where they either have it or they don't. The cream rises to the top.
I didn't mean to say that ALL great players are stars from the time they are in mites on. But, when a particular player burns you enough times, you start to get it.