Brick Tournament 2010

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iwearmysunglassesatnight
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Post by iwearmysunglassesatnight »

[quote="Toomuchtoosoon"][quote] Many teams do a true selection process and don't base it off of one team. [/quote]

Too much bickering to get to the point. From what I understand, the Machine feels they should be the team going, not the Blades. Some bring up it should be an open tryout, however, none of the Machine could try out anyway due to BM.

The Brick is a business and they have signed contracts. The Blades have that contract. Sounds like the Blades have opened spots for Machine kids, but BM says no.

Rather simple, if the Brick means that much, and your kid is good enough to go, play for the Blades. Don't blame the Blades, blame BM.

If the Machine went, then a different set of kids would be left out. No solution there.

You all pick the AAA team your kid plays on with full knowledge of the politics and agreements. If you don't know, then find out.

One can lash out and hope that the Blades kids fail, however, that just shows that your petty and most likely a delusional paranoid. Does Marinovich ring a bell? See how that worked out in the end.[/quote]

I tip my cap too you sir. GOOD JOB
Was a duster and paying for it?????
JSR
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Re: look at it this way

Post by JSR »

O-townClown wrote:
JSR wrote:My one of my best friend's son has accepted a scholarship to play D1 hockey beginning in the 2011-2012 season. He never once played in a AAA hockey tournament of any kind as a kid. His dad (a high school hockey coach) felt they were a waste of time and money. He played association hockey only team wise until he was in 9th grade. Other than that he spent his time on the ice at camps his dad coached etc.... Was he downplaying these tourneys because his son was not at that level?
J, just remember there is a corollary here too. Most kids DON'T get to play HS hockey in Edina, Wayzata, Eden Prairie, etc... Most kids DON'T get to play Division I. Most kids DON'T make it to the NHL, or even ECHL. Why not enjoy the heck out of the stuff you do get to play?

That HS coach knew he could do whatever he wanted and his son would still be able to make the HS team. As you said, he got to skate a lot at his dad's camps. I grew up in the era of Saterdalen and Osiecki. Jeff played Division I for St. Cloud State and Mark played at Wisconsin and then on in to the NHL. While they certainly worked hard and earned it, there is no question they also took advantage of opportunities that are not available to most.

Last night my son played an hour of crossice. When it was over the kids got off the ice. Except one. His teammate, son of the coach and program director, stayed on for PEE WEE clinic. And he's just turning 8. (This option was not made available to any of the other Mites.)

To this point my son has been a much stronger player than him, but for how long?

I see no harm in going to a big youth tournament or playing on a young "all-star" team. As long as people understand what it is. If people confuse it to mean they are on a fast-track to anything it obviously could lead to disappointment later.
O-town. I agree with and understand all of that. A coaches kid does get different opportunities than other kids. My son is teammates/friends with a high school coaches son. His son gets opportunities others do not, and I actually think that is great. His dad is a teacher, teacher don't get alot of breaks in this world, so in his own small way he created these opportunities for his sons but also sacrificed alot in getting them too. Hard work begets opportunity one way or another and that's cool. My ONLY point in my post was that the other poster said that "only people who's kids aren't at that level downplay tournaments like the brick", I merely pointed out that this statement made by that poster was made as an absolute and clearly any statement of absolutes involving sports is silly. I was merely pointing out the folly of THAT specific statement. Your response takes the covnersation in a different direction, which is fine, but not the point or discussion I was intending to have with my post. Hope that clarifies.
Pylon
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Post by Pylon »

My ONLY point in my post was that the other poster said that "only people who's kids aren't at that level downplay tournaments like the brick",
Actually I said "Usually" not only! :P
I threw that statement out there in a loose manner. On the boards it his hard to detect peoples tones etc. I took the previous post as sour grapes as I wasn't sure why you cant think that the kids playing on Brick teams have accomplished something up to now. IMO your ultimate goal is to play at the highest level possible. For most 10 year olds, playing at the Brick tournament will be the highest level achievable at that point! Now I understand that some teams have rights to the tournament while others use a selection process. I guess my point was more directed to those teams. I thought the blades still beefed their team up for this tournament.
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Post by JSR »

Pylon wrote:
My ONLY point in my post was that the other poster said that "only people who's kids aren't at that level downplay tournaments like the brick",
Actually I said "Usually" not only! :P
I threw that statement out there in a loose manner. On the boards it his hard to detect peoples tones etc. I took the previous post as sour grapes as I wasn't sure why you cant think that the kids playing on Brick teams have accomplished something up to now. IMO your ultimate goal is to play at the highest level possible. For most 10 year olds, playing at the Brick tournament will be the highest level achievable at that point! Now I understand that some teams have rights to the tournament while others use a selection process. I guess my point was more directed to those teams. I thought the blades still beefed their team up for this tournament.
I will give you that tone and intent are hard to understand throgh electronic communications. I will just say that to me, your tone and intent sounded a bit over the top from my end based on those comments and the one about "let them be rock stars" or something like that. I personally don't want my kid to feel or act like a rock star. I want him/her to be humble, appreciative and hard working and not care about names on a tourney billing. I also believe only certain PARENTS believe the Brick is the highest level acheiveable for a 10 year old, I do not know ANY 10 year olds who think this. Don't get me wrong it's a fine tourney, but some want to turn it into something it's not. To me the highest level achieveable is a son or daughter having as much fun as possible playing in whatever game or tourney they are playing in ccurrently, no more no less. You are free to disagree, that is your perogative.
wildhair
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Post by wildhair »

Funny, you hear a phone ring and you have to answer it.

My son went to the Brick a few years back. The trip to the tournament was used as a recruting tool. It was a fine tournament and he had fun. He has great memories of the friends he made and very little of the hockey.

It cost quite a bit and I think with economy the way it is now many families would be better served by saving the dollars. My son played for the Blades only that one time at the Brick.

My son is playing H.S. hockey now and my point is this, it was fun but will it make any difference as to where a player will end up? No. Time spent on the ice will make the difference to how high up the ladder a player will clime. Let the ice coach him. Keep it simple, keep it fun.
scrapiron
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Post by scrapiron »

again
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