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Nuts&Bolts
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Post by Nuts&Bolts »

Somebody trademarks Look Up Line? This idiotic idea looks to be about as effective as sewing bright orange patches on the back of a jersey. But since we haven't tried the stop signs on high school jerseys maybe let's do that. I'm going to trademark STOP - MSHSL on the blaze orange patch so don't steal my thunder. Also doing neon yellow yield signs that will read CAUTION - MSHSL to go on both shoulders of every HS jersey in MN. Gonna make me some bank.
HShockeywatcher
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Post by HShockeywatcher »

puckbreath wrote: I think a lot of the "wouldn't happen if coaches (or whomever) didn't put up with it" is precisely because they know that, chances are, nothing will be called, and if so, not to the degree it should.

The ambiguity with callsl/how they're called is a big part of the reason players do what they do.
It's worth the "chance" in their eyes, because there's a good chance, nothing will come of it.
How is how whether a ref calls it or not an excuse? If you care about player safety you tell your players not to do something.

So, it's "worth" pushing another person into the boards from behind if it isn't called?

Not arguing with you, just trying to understand. Outside of the machismo attitude, I don't understand any justification for many of the things that severely injure players. Earlier this season I saw a player lying on the ice not moving while the guy who boarded him was getting the crowd to cheer for him as he was ejected from the game.
Nuts&Bolts
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Post by Nuts&Bolts »

Any player whooping the crowd up after being ejected with a player on the other team truly laying motionless should be suspended for a long time. I like the idea of the offending player being suspended for at least the length the other kid is out of the lineup. Does the MSHSL or coaches association have any type of a review board to deal with this crap or do they focus there time on reviewing transfer requests and fighting lawsuits on the topic? So the player ejected missed the remainder of the game an the next game? What happens with his next penalty and ejection?
puckbreath
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Post by puckbreath »

Nuts&Bolts wrote:Any player whooping the crowd up after being ejected with a player on the other team truly laying motionless should be suspended for a long time. I like the idea of the offending player being suspended for at least the length the other kid is out of the lineup. Does the MSHSL or coaches association have any type of a review board to deal with this crap or do they focus there time on reviewing transfer requests and fighting lawsuits on the topic? So the player ejected missed the remainder of the game an the next game? What happens with his next penalty and ejection?
That's one of the ridiculous points of NHL "discipline". Never is the player who *intentionally* hurt the other player, out as long as the injured player.

Yes, hockey is the only sport where players intentionally try to hurt each other, and can get away with it.

Hell, why is Todd Bertuzzi still playing, i.e. ?
puckbreath
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Post by puckbreath »

HShockeywatcher wrote:
puckbreath wrote: I think a lot of the "wouldn't happen if coaches (or whomever) didn't put up with it" is precisely because they know that, chances are, nothing will be called, and if so, not to the degree it should.

The ambiguity with callsl/how they're called is a big part of the reason players do what they do.
It's worth the "chance" in their eyes, because there's a good chance, nothing will come of it.
How is how whether a ref calls it or not an excuse? If you care about player safety you tell your players not to do something.

So, it's "worth" pushing another person into the boards from behind if it isn't called?

Not arguing with you, just trying to understand. Outside of the machismo attitude, I don't understand any justification for many of the things that severely injure players. Earlier this season I saw a player lying on the ice not moving while the guy who boarded him was getting the crowd to cheer for him as he was ejected from the game.
HS age kids don't listen to a lot of people, including coaches, so telling them won't do anything.

The NHL, i.e. preaches every year to *adult* players about player safety. How's that working out ? :wink:

The machismo aspect, and I think you are correct in that it exists, exists in other sports too, but you don't see the same happening there.

In my book, because the players are held more accountable for their actions, via rules enforcement, etc.

They *know* if they do x, the hammer's coming down, hard, with none of the "well, maybe, kinda, sorta" aspect of hockey rules enforcement.
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