Who Makes It To Regions PWAA?

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Post by MWS coach »

mnhockey2019 wrote:
MWS coach wrote:
mnhockey2019 wrote: I don't know how you can say Jefferson got the shaft. They lost to Minnetonka, a team you don't think should be in the field. Jefferson ended up as a #5 seed in their region. If you move them to where EP (a #5 seed) or PL (a #4 seed) are, and assuming they win their first game, they would play Minneapolis or Edina in their second game, as opposed to Rosemount in their current region. Jefferson would be/will be the underdog against any of those teams. The real winner in the seeding process was District 8 -- 6 of their 8 AA teams made the field. Not sure that should have happened. Other than Rosemount, the D8 teams all picked up wins beating each other.

No system is perfect and the current AA process is what we have. Outside of D6, everyone else had a district tournament, so SLP, Centennial, Forest Lake, Owatonna, Apple Valley and Lakeville North all had a chance to "win" their way into Regions.
One loss does not make or break a season. I am just going on rankings one human (LPH) and one computer (YHH Now) the YHH rankings indicate they use strength of schedule, not sure to what extent, but it says opponents schedule and opponents, opponents Schedule. I am just basing the fact that Jefferson is rated higher in both rankings and end up below both PL and EP.

Other districts did have opportunity to have an automatic if they won their district tournament, that said, only 1 spot not 2 or 3 as was the case in the old model. EP at .500 and MTKA at .326 are hardly numbers of the 13th and 19th best teams in the metro. Ok enough on MTKA, how about EP with a .500 record, the teams right behind them, #14 Elk River 30-16-5, I guess they didn't play a tough enough schedule? #15 Jefferson 28-15-8 D6 schedule but again not tough enough or not a large enough margin of victory, #16 Rochester 24-14-4, #17 LVS 28-24-6 all with better records than EP and ahead of them in the computer rankings? Is what it is, to get to State you need 3 or 4 wins and will have to win some tough games, just seems that IMHO there was way to much put on strength of schedule.
I was just tweaking you on Jefferson's loss to Tonka. For what it is worth, MyHockeyRankings has EP ahead of Elk River and Jefferson -- just another data point. My prediction is that Tonka is playing a meaningful game on Sunday.

Also, the old model certainly isn't perfect -- Orono and Edina, two of the best A teams in the same region? Tough for them. No system is perfect.
No Tonka on Sunday? What a crazy year of regions with many "upsets" Just goes to prove, rankings really don't matter. It is a grind to make it to state no matter if you are the #2 Seed or the #19 Seed.
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Post by pineline »

From what I saw on Saturday, Tonka ran into the flu bug and played their two games down 3 of their top 6 forwards. Hung tough with St Cloud and had the lead against Andover until about 5 minutes left. Just ran out of gas with 12 skaters.
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