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hockeywise
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Post by hockeywise »

1. Eden Prairie 3-0-0 Tough, we all know that..
2. Holy Angels 6-0-0 Very solid all around
3. Edina 6-0-2 Good scoring group
4. Wayzata 3-0-3 Great Def and G
5. Roseville 5-1-0 Great 3 Lines
6. Benilde 4-2 Great Scoring Offense
7. Blake 4-3 Great Offense
8. Breck 8-0-0 Great scoring Offense
9. Eagan 5-1-1 Great G
10. Armstrong 6-1-1 Good scoring not sure about Def

Here is my top ten…I know lol but it’s better than St. Paul’s……..
It’s all about fun, right? Its been fun so far……………….I’m not sure about all the records
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Post by ghshockeyfan »

hockeywise wrote:1. Eden Prairie 3-0-0 Tough, we all know that..
2. Holy Angels 6-0-0 Very solid all around
3. Edina 6-0-2 Good scoring group
4. Wayzata 3-0-3 Great Def and G
5. Roseville 5-1-0 Great 3 Lines
6. Benilde 4-2 Great Scoring Offense
7. Blake 4-3 Great Offense
8. Breck 8-0-0 Great scoring Offense
9. Eagan 5-1-1 Great G
10. Armstrong 6-1-1 Good scoring not sure about Def

Here is my top ten…I know lol but it’s better than St. Paul’s……..
It’s all about fun, right? Its been fun so far……………….I’m not sure about all the records
FWIW - all those teams are very deserving of consideration for such a list, as are some others, but we could debate order indefinitely.
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Post by trilogy »

ghshockeyfan wrote:
I also don't believe that Class A teams deserve much consideration for top "Metro" ranking. Top 10 in Class A? Yes, maybe top 5, but not overall including AA & A. Just my opinion. Many times we class A teams don't play the SOS (check out the SOS values for these teams - including my own - in the KRACH rankings - they're quite weak schedules) necissary to justify a top metro ranking with all the big schools. The exceptions historically are those A teams that play AA scheudles or that bump up to AA like BSM, AHA, SSP (historically). The one exception to all of this is Blake maybe.
GHS-question - are the SOS values calculated regardless of whether the team is A or AA? In other words, does the rank #1 for AHA count the same in the SOS formulas as the rank #1 for Breck? And does the SOS count opponents to date, or is it all opponents past and future?
ghshockeyfan wrote: Breck is very good. Richfield is a very solid team with amazing G and will give anyone trouble but may at times struggle to find offense but they are a very good team. I don't think that Simley and many other Class A teams are Top 10 Metro teams for the reasons I've cited above I'm not so sure of that though, and I say this knowing that my own team is on that list too. One thing we have to keep in mind is that early on the records and early sucess can be deciving, but the press/accolades/recognition are deserved until which time proven otherwise I suppose...
Richfield's goalie is very solid, but I bet Gerten takes your team farther GHS :) We will see on Dec 19 when you play them, eh?

Breck's key matchup in the near future will be their Armstrong game, and after that Blake in early Jan. Two good tests less than a month apart. Will Breck be as strong without Haller? Goal production is down since she left the team mid-season.
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trilogy wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote:
I also don't believe that Class A teams deserve much consideration for top "Metro" ranking. Top 10 in Class A? Yes, maybe top 5, but not overall including AA & A. Just my opinion. Many times we class A teams don't play the SOS (check out the SOS values for these teams - including my own - in the KRACH rankings - they're quite weak schedules) necissary to justify a top metro ranking with all the big schools. The exceptions historically are those A teams that play AA scheudles or that bump up to AA like BSM, AHA, SSP (historically). The one exception to all of this is Blake maybe.
GHS-question - are the SOS values calculated regardless of whether the team is A or AA? In other words, does the rank #1 for AHA count the same in the SOS formulas as the rank #1 for Breck? And does the SOS count opponents to date, or is it all opponents past and future?
Yes. well, let me clairify that. I use the rank 1-124 no matter class, to determine the value for SOS - average of all teams played rank. So, actually if you play the top 5 KRACh teams:

1 AHA
2 Breck
3 Crookston
4 RV
5 Bemidji

your SOS value is (1+2+3+4+5)/5 = 3 - some would argue that this should be 2.5, but everyone has the offset...

trilogy wrote:
ghshockeyfan wrote: Breck is very good. Richfield is a very solid team with amazing G and will give anyone trouble but may at times struggle to find offense but they are a very good team. I don't think that Simley and many other Class A teams are Top 10 Metro teams for the reasons I've cited above I'm not so sure of that though, and I say this knowing that my own team is on that list too. One thing we have to keep in mind is that early on the records and early sucess can be deciving, but the press/accolades/recognition are deserved until which time proven otherwise I suppose...
Richfield's goalie is very solid, but I bet Gerten takes your team farther GHS :) We will see on Dec 19 when you play them, eh?
Time will tell but truth be told I hate playing Richfield. Their team is well coached, they are disciplined, they go hard the entire game every shift and are solid and more experienced now from a young core these past couple years.
trilogy wrote: Breck's key matchup in the near future will be their Armstrong game, and after that Blake in early Jan. Two good tests less than a month apart. Will Breck be as strong without Haller? Goal production is down since she left the team mid-season.
The loss of Haller hurts greatly. I think she is one of the top D in the state as a Sophomore.
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Couldn't agree more!

Post by Puck Bag »

A schools are tough to judge, metro or outstate. The Pioneer Press, like one poster said - is having some fun!

The Richfield team did NOT play well last night and it was pretty obvious they (SLP) wanted the game more.

We really don't like playing Simley much either. They always are physical, pass the puck well and in general their size just gives us a lot of problems.

It will be interesting - we play each other in conference twice and are in the same section (which will be tough) and if any luck that section game will be the rubber match!
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Post by ghshockeyfan »

We just hope for good games vs Richfield and all our conf. foes. It's going to be interesting to see how the conf & section plays out for us as we have lots of good competition as always.
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Just curious re: Breck, what happened to Haller?
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Post by hockeywild7 »

I will go out on a limb and say Mahtomedi picks up first win of the year when they go against Richfield on Friday. Ratings are more about straight wins and loses and less about who you play.
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Post by g31 »

MNHockeyFan wrote:Just curious re: Breck, what happened to Haller?
She is now at Anoka and will sit out the 12 Varsity games. Word had it that she or her parents were not happy with ice time (3 sets of D). She is a solid player. Best of luck at Anoka.
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