Section 1A 2007-8

falcons89 · Post by **falcons89** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:38 am

New question, Which team in the section, trains the hardest during the off season, and why?

My expert ratings:

1. Redwing: At every game in the Kasson league they have 12-15 players. They practice and train together all summer long on ice. However I doubt it will be enough this year. They are missing the older leadership.

2. Faribault: We are well unified, training together on the Softball field and we skate also all summer. We do a summer camp and play in several leagues. Currently in the Kasson league and dominating. We should send a message to Redwing Monday. We have modest turnouts.

3. Austin: Simply because they have one player that trains constantly but this is a team evaluation, so has anybody seen Ellingson, Wagner, or Moline. Do they still play hockey? Never see them. I did watch Austin play the other day in Kasson. I was impressed with the Stanek girl, never saw her play last year.

4. Albert Lea: not sure if they do much, they did do the spring league, seem to have a lack of summer comittment. Does Christmas tree do much? I guess soccer and golf are big there. Probably doing a camp with Jet, but will they do it. Not in the Kasson League. Will this hurt them?

5. Northfield: Do they do much? I see V around here and there, playing. If they are doing anything this will help this young team.

6. Waseca, very little.

tigerpower · Post by **tigerpower** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:21 pm

Has either Faribault or Austin played Red Wing yet? Do they have anybody or are they the typical southern team?

OLYMPIA · Post by **OLYMPIA** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:26 pm

falcons89 wrote:New question, Which team in the section, trains the hardest during the off season, and why?

My expert ratings:

1. Redwing: At every game in the Kasson league they have 12-15 players. They practice and train together all summer long on ice. However I doubt it will be enough this year. They are missing the older leadership.

2. Faribault: We are well unified, training together on the Softball field and we skate also all summer. We do a summer camp and play in several leagues. Currently in the Kasson league and dominating. We should send a message to Redwing Monday. We have modest turnouts.

3. Austin: Simply because they have one player that trains constantly but this is a team evaluation, so has anybody seen Ellingson, Wagner, or Moline. Do they still play hockey? Never see them. I did watch Austin play the other day in Kasson. I was impressed with the Stanek girl, never saw her play last year.

4. Albert Lea: not sure if they do much, they did do the spring league, seem to have a lack of summer comittment. Does Christmas tree do much? I guess soccer and golf are big there. Probably doing a camp with Jet, but will they do it. Not in the Kasson League. Will this hurt them?

5. Northfield: Do they do much? I see V around here and there, playing. If they are doing anything this will help this young team.

6. Waseca, very little.

It doesn't matter who trains the most in the summer, Albert Lea will win the Section.

Stanley Cup · Post by **Stanley Cup** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:35 pm

Austin. The Stanek girl, I think her dad played for Albert Lea in the late 70's ? 3 Stanek brothers. Jerry, Dave, Mike ? Jerry was the oldest and Mike was the youngest. I think her dad would be Dave. He also coached youth hockey in Austin.

tigerpower · Post by **tigerpower** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 1:59 pm

OLYMPIA wrote:It doesn't matter who trains the most in the summer, Albert Lea will win the Section.

Yes, that mindset is obviously working well for the Packers also...

jetjock · Post by **jetjock** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 3:19 pm

tigerpower wrote:Has either Faribault or Austin played Red Wing yet? Do they have anybody or are they the typical southern team?

You guys are very entertaining. I have been enjoying the posts.

I hope I am not to serious. We played them last night. They impressed me with their dedication. They had 17 kids travel to kasson. Two decent goalies. They seem to to be very serious about contending. We may see them at the Denny Bray camp. We beat them 17-15. I had 7 players and a goalie. They are very young. They lack a stud playmaker. In the future they will contend if they stay dedicated.

HOCKEYPUCK2 · Post by **HOCKEYPUCK2** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 9:27 pm

falcons89 wrote:Tiger power you beat me to the punch.

The apple does not fall far from the tree or should I say the pine cone does not fall far from the Red lighted Christmas Tree.

What is with 30% of the forum thinking Austin has a chance at this section. Go watch them play. Sadly the best player in the section is stuck there.

I hear twinnesota is putting a bounty on Falcons89 after that comment.

Albert Lea already has this section won. Try as hard as you want Faribault, you will fail.

Albert Lea is the greatest.

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Tue Jun 19, 2007 10:14 pm

jetjock wrote: They are very young. They lack a stud playmaker.

Rosie Alleva is their stud playmaker. I imagine she's playing with the IceCats this summer along with her trip to Lake Placid. Although young, she is VERY, VERY good.

Silent But Deadly · Post by **Silent But Deadly** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 8:20 am

RSI wrote:
jetjock wrote: They are very young. They lack a stud playmaker.
Rosie Alleva is their stud playmaker. I imagine she's playing with the IceCats this summer along with her trip to Lake Placid. Although young, she is VERY, VERY good.

Yes, I've watched Rosie Alleva play for the cats....she is the best D that I've seen in that age group. I knew she was from Red Wing but I guess I'm surprised she isn't playing for one of the privates.

tigerpower · Post by **tigerpower** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 1:31 pm

If you're that good why even bother playing for Redwing? Why not transfer or try out for the Thoroughbreds?

Just like how I wonder why, if you are a leading scorer in the state, you would play for Austin...why not Albert Lea?

BTW, now that Junior Fest is over, do we know that Vy or Foley or Jenkins have recieved any college offers?

RSI · Post by **RSI** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:23 pm

tigerpower wrote:If you're that good why even bother playing for Redwing? Why not transfer or try out for the Thoroughbreds?

So, if you're a good player you should automatically consider transferring to a different school because they have a better hockey team?

Would Red Wing's boy's program be as good as it is today if Johnny Pohl had transferred out? I imagine there are still players in Red Wing who "idolized" Johnny Pohl when they were little kids. His impact on Red Wing hockey is immeasurable. Back when I played, games against Red Wing used to be W's, just like the games against Faribo

Not any more...

Personally, I would prefer be part of building a program up rather than joining a strong existing program. Maybe I'm all alone on that though.

SportsMa · Post by **SportsMa** » Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:34 pm

Community pride, hard work and team loyalty are characterstics to be admired and will serve a person very well after high school days are over.

tigerpower · Post by **tigerpower** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 1:04 pm

I realize that community pride, hard work and team loyalty are important values to have in life, I just can't imagine it to be much fun to be a superstar on a not-so-good team. Younger girls may "idolize" you but it must be frustrating to be so many levels above your teammates.

EXAMPLE: Ashley Olson- Fairmont Cardinals... skillfully dominant compared to her teammates...one way hockey player... commits many frustrated/annoyed penalties... won't sit by her teammates at games...etc,
she is a good hockey player stuck in a bad town, she MIGHT help the program but her attitude about will hurt her

hockeytribe · Post by **hockeytribe** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:16 pm

[quote="tigerpower"]I realize that community pride, hard work and team loyalty are important values to have in life, I just can't imagine it to be much fun to be a superstar on a not-so-good team. Younger girls may "idolize" you but it must be frustrating to be so many levels above your teammates.[/quote]

Was looking around and saw how many pages you were up to here, so I had to take a peek!

I'll take a bite at this one. Tigerpower, you do raise a good point but let's use an imaginary player. Say Player A is by far the best player on her team. You can see the frustration in her play in her current situation – penalties, lack of hustle, arguments with teammates and such. You could argue that maybe she'd be better off in another program, where there is more depth and would allow her to better reach her playing potential. Player A could turn out to be a better player than even she imagined. But what if the new program struggles? Will there be a repeat in behavior?

Maybe Player A tried to get her teammates to do summer hockey, out to the parks during winter or into the weight room but to no avail. She could be an incredible role model who just has gotten to such a point of frustration that she doesn't like playing anymore. Player A's idea of fun could be winning while her teammates might just love playing the game or being with their friends. I think if we all try hard, we can relate to this at least somewhere in our own lives, be it at or outside of work. I have seen some talented players stay on less-than-talented teams.

Then again, maybe Player A hasn't done anything to try to work with the team or within the program. It could be argued that great players make their teammates better by their play and work to make them better. Could be just a major temper tantrum? Perhaps she doesn't know how to be a team player? Does she know what it means to lead by example? It could be possible that her coaches all throughout Player A's hockey career just let her do as she wanted.

What is Player A's motivation for playing? What are the goals of the team? Player A could be a gift or a cancer. If I were a coach would I want a player like that on my team? I don't know. She could be a spoiled brat or a player just waiting for the environment to thrive. I would be concerned about Player A's attitude under pressure. Hopefully Player A is a multi-sport athlete, so you can see if there is a pattern of behavior. If not, how could you not expect Player A to act any differently?

Besides, you can always take the “community pride” belief argument to the next level. If things were so great where you grew up, wouldn't you still all be living there? So why did you move (that is, if you did)? If you did move, you must not be proud of your community!

falconsforever · Post by **falconsforever** » Fri Jun 29, 2007 8:32 pm

A.K.A. Falcons89. Tinysota...man up.

I would never say anything negative about a player, especially if I named her directly.

However there is a flip side to the the community pride, hard work, team play. A certain player in Austin is levels above her team mates, yet does the excact opposite of player A from fairmont. Austin player is a two way hockey player, hangs around her teammates, works harder than any, plays summer hockey with as many that are willing to do it. Has a great attitude even when the others are recreational players. Yes the Austin player has been around more success in the past than Fairmont. However I am not seeing much success this summer in Austin and I see this player working harder than ever with less talent around her. Bottom line is it is all about character. I just wish this character would transfer to Faribault.

Faribault is the greatest.

I believe it will be Christmas in Albert Lea very soon. Oh how I love the red lights on the Christmas tree.

taking names · Post by **taking names** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 1:22 am

[quote="falconsforever"]A.K.A. Falcons89. Tinysota...man up.

I would never say anything negative about a player, especially if I named her directly.

However there is a flip side to the the community pride, hard work, team play. A certain player in Austin is levels above her team mates, yet does the excact opposite of player A from fairmont. Austin player is a two way hockey player, hangs around her teammates, works harder than any, plays summer hockey with as many that are willing to do it. Has a great attitude even when the others are recreational players. Yes the Austin player has been around more success in the past than Fairmont. However I am not seeing much success this summer in Austin and I see this player working harder than ever with less talent around her. Bottom line is it is all about character. I just wish this character would transfer to Faribault.

Faribault is the greatest.

I believe it will be Christmas in Albert Lea very soon. Oh how I love the red lights on the Christmas tree.

[/quote]

To know such intimate details about a player and their activities you are either that player or a relative of that player just with a different name

falconsforever · Post by **falconsforever** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 7:56 am

taking names wrote: To know such intimate details about a player and their activities you are either that player or a relative of that player just with a different name

Yea, you caught me Einstein. I am the player's real father.

If her dad only knew.

Does that mean I have parental rights to move her to Faribault?

tigerpower wrote: EXAMPLE: Ashley Olson- Fairmont Cardinals... skillfully dominant compared to her teammates...one way hockey player... commits many frustrated/annoyed penalties... won't sit by her teammates at games...etc,
she is a good hockey player stuck in a bad town, she MIGHT help the program but her attitude about will hurt her

With that reasoning, then Tigerpower, would be The Fairmont player's dad. I see another transfer.

Thankfully, Faribault is the greatest.

Twinnesota · Post by **Twinnesota** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 9:31 am

WOW!!!!!

Falconsforever=Falcons89?

Kinda like Sybil

IMHO, thats just too much of a good thing...but tends to indicate that the 2 Buzzards (i.e. same person) talk to each other, because no one else will listen.

AL will be competitive.

T

taking names · Post by **taking names** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:02 am

[quote="falconsforever"][quote="taking names"]
To know such intimate details about a player and their activities you are either that player or a relative of that player just with a different name[/quote]

Yea, you caught me Einstein. I am the player's real father.

If her dad only knew.

Does that mean I have parental rights to move her to Faribault?

[quote="tigerpower"]
EXAMPLE: Ashley Olson- Fairmont Cardinals... skillfully dominant compared to her teammates...one way hockey player... commits many frustrated/annoyed penalties... won't sit by her teammates at games...etc,
she is a good hockey player stuck in a bad town, she MIGHT help the program but her attitude about will hurt her[/quote]

With that reasoning, then Tigerpower, would be The Fairmont player's dad. I see another transfer.

Thankfully, Faribault is the greatest.

* If she is so good why would she even have to be on a team? The way you talk about her she is the team.*

jetjock · Post by **jetjock** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 3:46 pm

taking names wrote: To know such intimate details about a player and their activities you are either that player or a relative of that player just with a different name

I think you are severely confused taking names. Falconsforever/falcons89 is closer to a stalker.

I wonder if twinnesota could help me in filing a restraining order? With as many hockey rinks that I am in, and my daughter plays at, Falcons would never see another hockey game. But then how would we get his expert opinion?

So Falconsforever, what happened to Falcons89? Get suspended? $\:D/$

By the way, I always get a charge out of the times you guys post. Taking names posted at 12:22 AM and Falcons forever at 6:55 am on Saturday morning. I guarantee no one in my family is up at those times, and those are intimate details. As I tell my children, nothing good happens on the internet from midnight to 7:00 am.

By the way Falcons, I heard you guys scrimmaged Northfield the other day, How did they look? I think Redwing and Northfield may surprise this section. I will say AL and Fairbault are the teams to beat. There I go again, talking about the section, on the section thread.

falconsforever · Post by **falconsforever** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 8:15 am

taking names wrote: * If she is so good why would she even have to be on a team? The way you talk about her she is the team.*

Taking names, go to your webster dictionary and look up this one word: JEALOUSY.

I have gone to the archives and retrieved a very simple explanation from my close personal friend Tigerpower:

tigerpower wrote:ok i promise not to use names... austin has two really good players- and 16 ok to terrible players... out of the two fowards one is obviously well known but after watching them play together for many years i know that that well known foward wouldn't look as good or have such eye-popping stats without that other player

Austin doesn't need the injured foward to win games but they would lose a lot more without her

both fowards are the team and each can do what needs to be done solo if they need to..

so swiss you are correct Austin doesn't depend on just one player... they depend on two

So taking names, since you have this immense knowledge, who are the other players in Austin that will make an impact?

Jet I know you are kidding around. So much for your nice guy image.

As for Northfield, we did scrimmage them over a week ago. Are they any good? Not really, but when you are a Dominant team like Faribault, and you completely control the game, it is hard to judge the worthiness of another team. They could give Austin and the others a run, but not us.

Faribault, is by far the greatest.

Jet did you notice I waited until after 7:00 am to post. Did not want you guys thinking I was some kind of sicko. Go ahead and take your shot tinysota.

taking names · Post by **taking names** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 1:35 pm

Jetjock equals falconsforever. And jetjock as you can tell I am posting this message in the afternoon I hope I get your approval.

tigerpower · Post by **tigerpower** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 2:50 pm

taking names wrote:Jetjock equals falconsforever. And jetjock as you can tell I am posting this message in the afternoon I hope I get your approval.

wow...what cardboard box are you from?

shooter111 · Post by **shooter111** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:07 am

tigerpower wrote:If you're that good why even bother playing for Redwing? Why not transfer or try out for the Thoroughbreds?

Her family is well known & respected in Red Wing, and her parents more than likely would not let her transfer, even if she wanted to. Her skills are obviously there. Her brother plays on the boys team (hasn't been the same since a car accident with two other players a couple years back) but the dedication from the family is there. Don't count on her leaving.

Bottom line, Red Wing is young. The future looks bright, but I wouldn't expect too much this year.

HOCKEYPUCK2 · Post by **HOCKEYPUCK2** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 4:37 am

tigerpower wrote:
taking names wrote:Jetjock equals falconsforever. And jetjock as you can tell I am posting this message in the afternoon I hope I get your approval.
wow...what cardboard box are you from?

WOOH... I think you are giving her/him to much credit with a cardboard boxx.....more like another planet.

Wait, I get it now........Falcons89=falconsforever=jetjock=RSI=tigerpower=twinnesota=golffreak=christmaseve
then that means....
zamboni=HOCKEYPUCK1=taking names.

Check out my posting time. I promise I am up to no good.

HighSchoolHockeyForums.com

Section 1A 2007-8

Who will win Section 1A 2007-8?

Community pride