Section 1A
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I agree he can play a key role in a possible upset, but they'd have to match him with the Samuelson line for the entire game to break their speed. I'm not too familiar with the Northfield team this year, but I think any determined team with a common goal can pull an upset if underestimated.hockeyking wrote:Northfield has a very strong sophmore defenseman in von ruden. He is hitter, moves the puck very efficiently and can score. He can shutdown most players that go up against him.
I agree he can play a key role in a possible upset, but they'd have to match him with the Samuelson line for the entire game to break their speed. I'm not too familiar with the Northfield team this year, but I think any determined team with a common goal can pull an upset if underestimated.hockeyking wrote:Northfield has a very strong sophmore defenseman in von ruden. He is hitter, moves the puck very efficiently and can score. He can shutdown most players that go up against him.
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Re: 1A
Blueblood, I know you are a fan and I can appreciate that but you may want to come back to earth on your score prediction. Northfield is in the best seat possible, underdog. It will be a great night of hockey, can you say upset.blueblood wrote:Lourdes in running time. Final score 8 to 1.
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I would have to disagree with your statement. At this time the best team will be playing against Rochester and will provide the upset. If your defense was poor and the players were undisiplined in getting penality calls how could that be the best team. Thanks for the well wish.urban iceman wrote:I think the only team that had a chance to upset Lourdes has already exited, due to poor defense, penalties and bad luck!( Also a goalie who did an exceptional job)!! Good luck to all.
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Re: 1A
[quote="blueblood"]I've seen both teams play on numerous occasions. Don't think its gonna be close.
Lourdes will nuetralize Friermuth and Scofield and win big...[/quote
Your approach, has the tendency to play right into our plan. Upset is in the air. It only takes one goal to determine the outcome of the game. Unfortunately it will be a BIG WIN for the Raiders. Good luck with your team.
Lourdes will nuetralize Friermuth and Scofield and win big...[/quote
Your approach, has the tendency to play right into our plan. Upset is in the air. It only takes one goal to determine the outcome of the game. Unfortunately it will be a BIG WIN for the Raiders. Good luck with your team.
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I think we all understand where hockeyking stands on Section 1A final.
Realistically Rochester Lourdes is the strong favorite here. I wouldn't count out an upset possibility though, this is easily one of the weaker Lourdes teams compared to recent years. But I still think Lourdes' has a better overall team than Northfield, except maybe in goaltending. Issak Tjaden has been highly underrated this season with Amsden's amazing season and Morris' end to a great high school career for New Prague, he's been quite shadowed. In fact, I would consider Tjaden to be the best goaltender in the section next season, if Amsden leaves L-H/SP (which I expect).
But although Lourdes may not have better goaltending than Northfield, they simply haven't needed spectacular goaltending from either of their goaltenders to beat any of the teams in this section, which they have shown during the regular season. (Undefeated in regular season section play)
I think to win Northfield will need a similar gameplan as Red Wing. The Wingers really put an emphasis on slowing down Funk, Samuelson and Farrell, with some physical play but they will need to kill and limit the penalties, as they say "you live and die by the sword". Lourdes' powerplay can really move the puck around and produce offensive chances, I wouldn't want to put the Eagles on the man advantage too much.
As much as I would like to see a new representative of Section 1A, it's a tall order for Scofield and Company. I think scoring early is critical as the longer the game carries on, overall Lourdes' talent and depth will pull them through. Rochester Lourdes marches on to the Xcel 5-2 final.
Realistically Rochester Lourdes is the strong favorite here. I wouldn't count out an upset possibility though, this is easily one of the weaker Lourdes teams compared to recent years. But I still think Lourdes' has a better overall team than Northfield, except maybe in goaltending. Issak Tjaden has been highly underrated this season with Amsden's amazing season and Morris' end to a great high school career for New Prague, he's been quite shadowed. In fact, I would consider Tjaden to be the best goaltender in the section next season, if Amsden leaves L-H/SP (which I expect).
But although Lourdes may not have better goaltending than Northfield, they simply haven't needed spectacular goaltending from either of their goaltenders to beat any of the teams in this section, which they have shown during the regular season. (Undefeated in regular season section play)
I think to win Northfield will need a similar gameplan as Red Wing. The Wingers really put an emphasis on slowing down Funk, Samuelson and Farrell, with some physical play but they will need to kill and limit the penalties, as they say "you live and die by the sword". Lourdes' powerplay can really move the puck around and produce offensive chances, I wouldn't want to put the Eagles on the man advantage too much.
As much as I would like to see a new representative of Section 1A, it's a tall order for Scofield and Company. I think scoring early is critical as the longer the game carries on, overall Lourdes' talent and depth will pull them through. Rochester Lourdes marches on to the Xcel 5-2 final.
Also I would like to point out that I believe Universe actually picked New Prague to win 1Ahockeyking wrote:Just a fan of the Northfield Raider Hockey team. I wonder who The Universe? My guess is a fan of the Rochester team(s).The Universe wrote:Well I wonder who Hockeyking is?
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It is funny how your ignorance kicks in when someone picks a different outcome then you. Maybe you should lose you arrogance and figure out what reality show your gonna watch on TV when you have no one to cheer for in the state tournament. The kids play the game lets just enjoy the outcome. Good luck with you pickThe Universe wrote:Ahhh your ignorance is actually a little shocking, regardless of where I'm from, it is going to have no impact on who wins the game. Perhaps you should spend more time practicing and prepping vs. talking your team up on here.
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I agree with your take but I believe Lourdes has not played well in its last 4 games. So I still go with the upset of 4-2 in favor of Northfield. The kids need to play the game, lets just have fun watching them.scarlethockey33 wrote:I think we all understand where hockeyking stands on Section 1A final.
Realistically Rochester Lourdes is the strong favorite here. I wouldn't count out an upset possibility though, this is easily one of the weaker Lourdes teams compared to recent years. But I still think Lourdes' has a better overall team than Northfield, except maybe in goaltending. Issak Tjaden has been highly underrated this season with Amsden's amazing season and Morris' end to a great high school career for New Prague, he's been quite shadowed. In fact, I would consider Tjaden to be the best goaltender in the section next season, if Amsden leaves L-H/SP (which I expect).
But although Lourdes may not have better goaltending than Northfield, they simply haven't needed spectacular goaltending from either of their goaltenders to beat any of the teams in this section, which they have shown during the regular season. (Undefeated in regular season section play)
I think to win Northfield will need a similar gameplan as Red Wing. The Wingers really put an emphasis on slowing down Funk, Samuelson and Farrell, with some physical play but they will need to kill and limit the penalties, as they say "you live and die by the sword". Lourdes' powerplay can really move the puck around and produce offensive chances, I wouldn't want to put the Eagles on the man advantage too much.
As much as I would like to see a new representative of Section 1A, it's a tall order for Scofield and Company. I think scoring early is critical as the longer the game carries on, overall Lourdes' talent and depth will pull them through. Rochester Lourdes marches on to the Xcel 5-2 final.
Also I would like to point out that I believe Universe actually picked New Prague to win 1Ahockeyking wrote:Just a fan of the Northfield Raider Hockey team. I wonder who The Universe? My guess is a fan of the Rochester team(s).The Universe wrote:Well I wonder who Hockeyking is?
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I don't think I am being ignorant, I am only making a prediction that I am standing strong by, Lourdes winning (5-1 if we're getting detailed) and in the event that they do lose to Northfield I will be the first to congratulate NF because it's about time some new blood represents section 1A in St. Paul. However, I just don't see it happening.
I dont think any team will represent section 1A at state other than Lourdes for a long time to come. If Lourdes keeps getting 90% of the top kids from Rochester and surrounding areas, how can any team in section 1A compete against that? Lets get real here, a private school gets the pick of the litter and plays in section 1A, they will not lose in the section final that is played every year at the Rochester Recreation Center. IMHO.The Universe wrote:I don't think I am being ignorant, I am only making a prediction that I am standing strong by, Lourdes winning (5-1 if we're getting detailed) and in the event that they do lose to Northfield I will be the first to congratulate NF because it's about time some new blood represents section 1A in St. Paul. However, I just don't see it happening.
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The Rec Center in Rochester isn't considered the home arena of Rochester Lourdes as they reside in Graham for all their home game. Personally still think it should be held elsewhere, but it's not really home "ice" for Lourdes. Just to clear that up in case someone had that confused. Maybe more of a home area advantage, as it is held in their town, just not in their rink.
There really haven't been many strong years from other teams since maybe back when Mankato West won the section. 2007-2008 was a big year for a lot of teams, New Prague, Albert Lea, Rochester Lourdes, Red Wing and Mankato West all had some great talents and prolific scorers, and were all arguably right with each other competition-wise. Otherwise since 07'-08' Rochester Lourdes has been the strong favorite.
As for the future of section 1A, I expect New Prague to contend for 1A, as they have kids coming up from their teams and even on their varsity squad right now. Mankato squads are promising, but definitely interesting how they will split up from East and West when they grow up. The West's squad this year was packed with sophomores, and had some juniors who stepped up considerably from the previous year.
Red Wing will continue to surprise I think there's a lot of talent down there that goes unnoticed. Rochester Lourdes will be the favorite next year with Samuelson and Funk still together, but will be interesting who they can grab after their two top scorers since they were freshmen (Samuelson and Funk) graduate. Albert Lea will continue to be competitive as long as Nystrom coaches there. Will definitely be interesting how the situation changes in Tiger territory whenever Roy decides to hang up the whiteboard and whistle. I'm not real sure where Northfield will stand in a couple of years though. I expect Andrew Scofield will return for his senior year, and there's a lot of juniors currently on the team. The Raiders should compete next year, but not so sure about farther down the road.
There really haven't been many strong years from other teams since maybe back when Mankato West won the section. 2007-2008 was a big year for a lot of teams, New Prague, Albert Lea, Rochester Lourdes, Red Wing and Mankato West all had some great talents and prolific scorers, and were all arguably right with each other competition-wise. Otherwise since 07'-08' Rochester Lourdes has been the strong favorite.
As for the future of section 1A, I expect New Prague to contend for 1A, as they have kids coming up from their teams and even on their varsity squad right now. Mankato squads are promising, but definitely interesting how they will split up from East and West when they grow up. The West's squad this year was packed with sophomores, and had some juniors who stepped up considerably from the previous year.
Red Wing will continue to surprise I think there's a lot of talent down there that goes unnoticed. Rochester Lourdes will be the favorite next year with Samuelson and Funk still together, but will be interesting who they can grab after their two top scorers since they were freshmen (Samuelson and Funk) graduate. Albert Lea will continue to be competitive as long as Nystrom coaches there. Will definitely be interesting how the situation changes in Tiger territory whenever Roy decides to hang up the whiteboard and whistle. I'm not real sure where Northfield will stand in a couple of years though. I expect Andrew Scofield will return for his senior year, and there's a lot of juniors currently on the team. The Raiders should compete next year, but not so sure about farther down the road.
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Well you'd know plenty about that West team, wouldn't ya?scarlethockey33 wrote:The Rec Center in Rochester isn't considered the home arena of Rochester Lourdes as they reside in Graham for all their home game. Personally still think it should be held elsewhere, but it's not really home "ice" for Lourdes. Just to clear that up in case someone had that confused. Maybe more of a home area advantage, as it is held in their town, just not in their rink.
There really haven't been many strong years from other teams since maybe back when Mankato West won the section. 2007-2008 was a big year for a lot of teams, New Prague, Albert Lea, Rochester Lourdes, Red Wing and Mankato West all had some great talents and prolific scorers, and were all arguably right with each other competition-wise. Otherwise since 07'-08' Rochester Lourdes has been the strong favorite.
As for the future of section 1A, I expect New Prague to contend for 1A, as they have kids coming up from their teams and even on their varsity squad right now. Mankato squads are promising, but definitely interesting how they will split up from East and West when they grow up. The West's squad this year was packed with sophomores, and had some juniors who stepped up considerably from the previous year.
Red Wing will continue to surprise I think there's a lot of talent down there that goes unnoticed. Rochester Lourdes will be the favorite next year with Samuelson and Funk still together, but will be interesting who they can grab after their two top scorers since they were freshmen (Samuelson and Funk) graduate. Albert Lea will continue to be competitive as long as Nystrom coaches there. Will definitely be interesting how the situation changes in Tiger territory whenever Roy decides to hang up the whiteboard and whistle. I'm not real sure where Northfield will stand in a couple of years though. I expect Andrew Scofield will return for his senior year, and there's a lot of juniors currently on the team. The Raiders should compete next year, but not so sure about farther down the road.

I feel the ability for Lourdes to put a team into the final every year (lets disregard even winning here) is a huge advantage. To have the experience of being there before gives the boys in purple a bit of an edge over who they end up facing in the finals. Speaking from my own experience, I know sections (and even the finals) were much more relaxed the second time through and later.
Northfield and New Prague will only be getting better in time. As the metro area begins to expand past Lakeville and into Farmington now, it'll bring more people, players, and (most importantly) a plethora of talent to those two towns. It's only up for those two programs as I see it. New Prague has made unbelievable strides in becoming a competitive program within just the last five years since Seth Ambroz left (and imagine if he had stayed...) Northfield as well. I like what Bryce is doing with the program over there; obviously it is working to put Northfield back in the section finals.
As for Red Wing, I don't know how the future looks for them. They lost A LOT with this year coming to a close... They lost their D core. Coach Rajanen does an excellent job in Red Wing with the players he is presented with on the defensive end, but the size, physicality, and tenacity is not prevalent in the younger boys. Maybe it is a result of the more "passive" systems that were instilled with the Head Coaching change from George Nemanich to Mike Belisle, but the aggressiveness that I have seen in Red Wing in the past was not there this season... Taylor Hanson and Alex Rezansoff will remain there, but I don't see them as contenders again for a while... Not unless the youth in the program can really step up to the plate... Also, "through the grapevine," some "motivational" things need to be re-addressed from the inside...
On a final note, scarlethockey33, I ABSOLUTELY agree with you on changing the location of the final from the Rec Center! Yes, is not Lourdes official home ice, but I feel that any time you have a team's name and logo painted on the arena wall...it doesn't (entirely) denote as "neutral ice." Though, many would say, it is the largest arena in the area.
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Here-Here!The X wrote:I dont think any team will represent section 1A at state other than Lourdes for a long time to come. If Lourdes keeps getting 90% of the top kids from Rochester and surrounding areas, how can any team in section 1A compete against that? Lets get real here, a private school gets the pick of the litter and plays in section 1A, they will not lose in the section final that is played every year at the Rochester Recreation Center. IMHO.The Universe wrote:I don't think I am being ignorant, I am only making a prediction that I am standing strong by, Lourdes winning (5-1 if we're getting detailed) and in the event that they do lose to Northfield I will be the first to congratulate NF because it's about time some new blood represents section 1A in St. Paul. However, I just don't see it happening.