Falcon,
I love how the responses get personal... "By the way, you competed in a water downed tourney." I didn't compete! I'm way too old and I'm the wrong gender. My daughter isn't in high school and we live in a different part of the county to be Mayo but I know the kids and the staff. As I had mentioned I was there to watch the Lourdes boys and on Fri/Sat they played at the same time so I got to see a couple minutes of each period that Mayo played. I don't know that I'd say the tourney was watered down since SSP and Anoka both looked pretty good. The quality of play was faster than most of the Big 9 games I watched last winter. The Metro Stars were a pretty good team too. One of their studs also played on one of the Walser teams and she just went right from one game to the next. The other bracket was U19 allstar teams like the Walser teams and the Wild. It would be very tough for any high school to compete against them.
Faribault is lucky to have youth coaches like Salmonsen. He has been doing a great job with the 2 teams I have seen in the past couple of years and I also saw that he coached one of the Selects teams this past spring. The school sizes are an interesting comparision with Mayo & Century at about 1600+ (JM is 1300+) Faribault, Albert Lea and Austin are all between 970 and 1096 not including the Coops with Pacelli and BA.
I don't know if I would get all jacked up to win the Big 9. By hockey standards it is pretty lackluster. Of all of the good Big 9 players from last year I don't know of any that are going DI. Psimos, Ericson, Anderson, Harwood and Leyendecker are all going DIII. One girl was a frosh at Union Colleg last year that lists Rochester as her home but she originally came from Winona and then played at Shattuck. I think it is great that kids shoot for the sky but the reality is that most will not play after high school except in adult and pick up leagues. Have fun while it lasts.
SEHockeyDad
I wish I could watch some of the Southern Heat's games. Congrats to Pickel. She scored for Mayo in the Walmart tourney too. I don't know how many she got for sure but I was told she got one per game. How is Bakke playing? She is a very strong kid. Rasmussen is fun to watch too. I assume that she is playing defense?
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Rocket,
Keri Pickel got, I believe, 3 goals in the Walmart Cup, 2 in one game, 1 in another. As for the Heat, Sonia Bakke is playing really well, definately belongs in this caliber of competition. (She attended the Freshman/Sophmore development camp this summer, too.) Tara Rasmussen is a forward and playing well, as are all the girls. As a matter of fact, Tara and the Heat got ripped-off in Saturdays first game against the Wild (DeBruzzi). She popped in a rebound, but the ref had blown the whistle as soon as the original shot hit the goalie! No control by the goalie, the puck was in less than a second after it hit the goalie, but he immediately waived off the goal. The Heat lost by one goal, but should have been a tie. Jenna Christensen scored a beauty for the heat on a nice line that also included Erin Kastner and Megan Kramer. The heat also lost their 2nd game Saturday 2-1. Their goal was scored by Albert Lea's Katy Nelson, a D who was playing forward.
Frustrating, because the Heat were capable of winning 3 of those 4 games. If they played together all summer like their competition, I'm sure they would have.
Keri Pickel got, I believe, 3 goals in the Walmart Cup, 2 in one game, 1 in another. As for the Heat, Sonia Bakke is playing really well, definately belongs in this caliber of competition. (She attended the Freshman/Sophmore development camp this summer, too.) Tara Rasmussen is a forward and playing well, as are all the girls. As a matter of fact, Tara and the Heat got ripped-off in Saturdays first game against the Wild (DeBruzzi). She popped in a rebound, but the ref had blown the whistle as soon as the original shot hit the goalie! No control by the goalie, the puck was in less than a second after it hit the goalie, but he immediately waived off the goal. The Heat lost by one goal, but should have been a tie. Jenna Christensen scored a beauty for the heat on a nice line that also included Erin Kastner and Megan Kramer. The heat also lost their 2nd game Saturday 2-1. Their goal was scored by Albert Lea's Katy Nelson, a D who was playing forward.
Frustrating, because the Heat were capable of winning 3 of those 4 games. If they played together all summer like their competition, I'm sure they would have.
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Rocket, Dominate is a very strong word. Maybe you should choose your words wisely. Mayo will not dominate.
Water downed tourney. Did you notice the State soccer Tourney going on next door. Many other teams were missing players. Also the brackets are weighted. Where was Roseville, Stillwater, Cretin, Etc.? Being a youth parent I understand your naiveness. Maybe you should steer clear of the 1A thread.
Go ahead and write your book, we usually set a record for pages in a year.
Water downed tourney. Did you notice the State soccer Tourney going on next door. Many other teams were missing players. Also the brackets are weighted. Where was Roseville, Stillwater, Cretin, Etc.? Being a youth parent I understand your naiveness. Maybe you should steer clear of the 1A thread.
Go ahead and write your book, we usually set a record for pages in a year.
SEHockeyDad,
Thanks for the info on the Heat. I generally only get to see the girls high school games played at Rochester although I do get to see boys games all over the state. I knew a lot of the SE Minn girls that graduated before '05 but of the current players I only know the Roch and DC girls. My daughter is very interested in the girls HS game so I expect to get to more games around the area this winter. We were in a tourney in Plymouth last winter and got to see Edina vs Wayzata and Minnetonka vs Eden Prairie. That was great for our teams to watch. Very physical and very fast.
The Albert Lea boys seem to really improve when they get to high school. Would you say the same about their girls? What kind of offseason training are they doing. I'd like to see Austin, Albert Lea and Owatonna start playing at the A level in 10U, 12U and 14U. Owatonna and Faribault do it occassionally and I think it would improve SE Minny girls hockey if they would do it every year.
tweetybird89,
Yes I noticed that there was a big soccer tourney going on. Yes I noticed that Stillwater and Roseville were not there. I also noticed that there was no team there from Faribault. Why not? They also didn't play at the 4on4 OldSkule Classic in Dodge County. Too far to drive I guess. It all seems to come down to how hard do you want to work in the offseason. I don't see our school doing very much so I won't hold out much hope for them to dominate in the all powerful Big 9 but I have to give credit to the girls that are putting in their time and effort. I think I will take credit for being more than a "youth parent" as you put it. I have one playing in college, one in high school boys and a couple in youth. I have been there...done that in a lot of levels of hockey but I don't yet have a daughter playing high school hockey. In a few years I might have your expertise.
In the bracket that the Mayo girls played in they didn't dominate but they played respectable teams. The other girls tourney was not a high school tourney but rather a AAA U19 contest. There were many teams that had graduates like Maria Stoa. No high school team would stand a chance.
Thanks for the info on the Heat. I generally only get to see the girls high school games played at Rochester although I do get to see boys games all over the state. I knew a lot of the SE Minn girls that graduated before '05 but of the current players I only know the Roch and DC girls. My daughter is very interested in the girls HS game so I expect to get to more games around the area this winter. We were in a tourney in Plymouth last winter and got to see Edina vs Wayzata and Minnetonka vs Eden Prairie. That was great for our teams to watch. Very physical and very fast.
The Albert Lea boys seem to really improve when they get to high school. Would you say the same about their girls? What kind of offseason training are they doing. I'd like to see Austin, Albert Lea and Owatonna start playing at the A level in 10U, 12U and 14U. Owatonna and Faribault do it occassionally and I think it would improve SE Minny girls hockey if they would do it every year.
tweetybird89,
Yes I noticed that there was a big soccer tourney going on. Yes I noticed that Stillwater and Roseville were not there. I also noticed that there was no team there from Faribault. Why not? They also didn't play at the 4on4 OldSkule Classic in Dodge County. Too far to drive I guess. It all seems to come down to how hard do you want to work in the offseason. I don't see our school doing very much so I won't hold out much hope for them to dominate in the all powerful Big 9 but I have to give credit to the girls that are putting in their time and effort. I think I will take credit for being more than a "youth parent" as you put it. I have one playing in college, one in high school boys and a couple in youth. I have been there...done that in a lot of levels of hockey but I don't yet have a daughter playing high school hockey. In a few years I might have your expertise.
In the bracket that the Mayo girls played in they didn't dominate but they played respectable teams. The other girls tourney was not a high school tourney but rather a AAA U19 contest. There were many teams that had graduates like Maria Stoa. No high school team would stand a chance.
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falcons89
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Now it all makes sense. Why didn't you show us your resume first?Rocket78 wrote: I think I will take credit for being more than a "youth parent" as you put it. I have one playing in college, one in high school boys and a couple in youth. I have been there...done that in a lot of levels of hockey but I don't yet have a daughter playing high school hockey. In a few years I might have your expertise.
You are right, Mayo will dominate the Big 9. Losing those seniors meant nothing. They weren't that great. It was a fluke that they won.
Anyways it does not matter. Mayo replaced those seniors with much better young talent. Mankato West, Albert Lea, Faribault and a few others, should not waste our time playing this Mayo team. Why travel and get dominated. You have said, that they will dominate the BIG 9. Then again, there is a reason we lace up the skates and play.
Go ahead and write another book, and by the way, Faribault has been playing a lot of hockey. You need to look beyond your closet.
How's this for a cool way to grow girls hockey... This Tues-Thurs, a group of girls hockey people in Olmsted county are putting on a free girls introduction program. They have 75 new girls registered! Last year they did this and got 50 girls to participate. Of those 50, over 20 registered for the winter season. With any luck this year will will gain 30 new players. Yes, its had to accomodate that many new kids but I think in the long run it is worth it. What works for Faribault, mankato, Owatonna etc? Please share good ideas.
Question for Anyone -- When will SE Minnesota put together their own spring/summer hockey league?? Obviously the best hockey will be in the Twin Cities but kids should not have to spend all that time in the car. They should also be playing soccer, softball, volleyball, lacrosse, tennis and golf in the offseason and that's impossible to do if your are driving up to the metro. Gary Larson from AL and then Martinson from Owatonna used to run the AAA boys program but the guys still had all their games in the metro. How many SE Minny girls are selected for the AAA and U19 teams? How do they get noticed? At the last Selects tourney most of the South players were not from outside of the southern suburbs. Most were from Edian, Minnetonka, Rosemount, Lakeville etc. These are probably the girls that will be asked to play on the U19 B&A teams when they are too old for Selects. Would a SE Minny girls offseason league help?
Question for Anyone -- When will SE Minnesota put together their own spring/summer hockey league?? Obviously the best hockey will be in the Twin Cities but kids should not have to spend all that time in the car. They should also be playing soccer, softball, volleyball, lacrosse, tennis and golf in the offseason and that's impossible to do if your are driving up to the metro. Gary Larson from AL and then Martinson from Owatonna used to run the AAA boys program but the guys still had all their games in the metro. How many SE Minny girls are selected for the AAA and U19 teams? How do they get noticed? At the last Selects tourney most of the South players were not from outside of the southern suburbs. Most were from Edian, Minnetonka, Rosemount, Lakeville etc. These are probably the girls that will be asked to play on the U19 B&A teams when they are too old for Selects. Would a SE Minny girls offseason league help?
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hocsocstud
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albert lea offseason
If you were wondering what Albert Lea has been doing in the offseason here you go. In the spring they had a showcase team and every single player on the team was there except one. They had a 2 week camp in Albert Lea with Austin very recently. A little over half the team was there. From the spring up until the camp the girls had open hockey once a week available to girls of all ages from Austin and Albert Lea. They would scrimmage and play pick up hockey. Though the once a week practices have slowed since fall sports have began. 2 girls from Albert Lea are on the Southern Heat team and one girl is on the TPS outlaws team. In the past girls from Albert Lea have been on the ice cats, the rockets, the extreme. So yes AL does play summer hockey.
I would also like to say that Albert Lea has always had a strong youth program and the girls teams have been one of the strongest in southern minnesota. The 12UB team has gone to state numerous times in the past few years and the 14U team has gone to state once.
I would also like to say that Albert Lea has always had a strong youth program and the girls teams have been one of the strongest in southern minnesota. The 12UB team has gone to state numerous times in the past few years and the 14U team has gone to state once.
hocsocstud,
What does AL do to get new girls in the program? Any special recruiting programs? I saw them nipping on Owatonna's heels at 12UB 2 seasons ago but didn't pay much attention this past winter. Is AL still feeding their 10U program with lots of kids? With all those AL girls playing showcase hockey are they still able to play HS spring sports? A lot of our girls play HS softball or Elite soccer so they don't do spring league hockey. Ideally they could do both.
I see the various high school programs go through cycles and to me the obvious solution is to keep the base of players very wide at 10U. Ideally it should be 15+ 9&10 year old girls per high school so that by the time they are in 9-12 grade there are 16-22 kids still playing. With more players than that they could actually field JV teams. Cottage Grove had 3 10U teams a few years ago to feed just Park High. Their numbers are falling off at 10U and they are bleeding at the high school level losing players to Woodbury and they will be opening another school soon. Time for Elumba to crank up their recruiting machine.
I have watched the girls HS hockey program since the first game played in Rochester in 95 (I think MHSL played ringette before that year) and it was unbelievably bad hockey. The game has progressed so far in 12 years. It seemed as if only 5 players had ever actually played a real game after watching that 95 game. Maybe 5 seasons later I watched Austin in Rochester and Fedoryk was in nets for Austin. She made 72 saves in a 2-0 loss. Wow! Her dad was an old goalie and obviously taught her a few things. Bonapace is that kind of goalie too. She played in either Marshall or Fairmont as a 7th grader before moving to town. It sounds like a lot of girls are working hard and their success shows it.
What does AL do to get new girls in the program? Any special recruiting programs? I saw them nipping on Owatonna's heels at 12UB 2 seasons ago but didn't pay much attention this past winter. Is AL still feeding their 10U program with lots of kids? With all those AL girls playing showcase hockey are they still able to play HS spring sports? A lot of our girls play HS softball or Elite soccer so they don't do spring league hockey. Ideally they could do both.
I see the various high school programs go through cycles and to me the obvious solution is to keep the base of players very wide at 10U. Ideally it should be 15+ 9&10 year old girls per high school so that by the time they are in 9-12 grade there are 16-22 kids still playing. With more players than that they could actually field JV teams. Cottage Grove had 3 10U teams a few years ago to feed just Park High. Their numbers are falling off at 10U and they are bleeding at the high school level losing players to Woodbury and they will be opening another school soon. Time for Elumba to crank up their recruiting machine.
I have watched the girls HS hockey program since the first game played in Rochester in 95 (I think MHSL played ringette before that year) and it was unbelievably bad hockey. The game has progressed so far in 12 years. It seemed as if only 5 players had ever actually played a real game after watching that 95 game. Maybe 5 seasons later I watched Austin in Rochester and Fedoryk was in nets for Austin. She made 72 saves in a 2-0 loss. Wow! Her dad was an old goalie and obviously taught her a few things. Bonapace is that kind of goalie too. She played in either Marshall or Fairmont as a 7th grader before moving to town. It sounds like a lot of girls are working hard and their success shows it.
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Firecracker78,
I've contacted a publisher whom seems mildly interested in your novel. He mainly hopes that:
1) You would pertain to the topic of 1A
2) You would pertain to the topic of girls hockey
3) People cared about 1995
Otherwise I believe you have a good shot at this thing.
Best wishes
I've contacted a publisher whom seems mildly interested in your novel. He mainly hopes that:
1) You would pertain to the topic of 1A
2) You would pertain to the topic of girls hockey
3) People cared about 1995
Otherwise I believe you have a good shot at this thing.
Best wishes
Albert Lea is the greatest.
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Twinnesota
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Be nice, now...tigerpower wrote:Firecracker78,
I've contacted a publisher whom seems mildly interested in your novel. He mainly hopes that:
1) You would pertain to the topic of 1A
2) You would pertain to the topic of girls hockey
3) People cared about 1995
Otherwise I believe you have a good shot at this thing.
Best wishes
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falcon 89 - I agree that Mayo has some good young talent, mostly sophomores, but I don't think they are anywhere near the caliber of player that Psimos, Harwood, and Erickson were. They also lost 2 solid defenseman in Anderson and Miller. Those girls were for real and made a big impact on the big 9. Let's see if that younger, better talent that you described gets them to STATE this year.
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I am counting the days. This is like waiting to open Christmas presents. 
Regardless of our roster, we are still going to kick some little kitty (Tiger) tail.
Albert Lea will have a shorter season than Faribault , again.
I hope Christmas Tree is enjoying her golf. With AL's short hockey season, she will have plenty of time to improve her swing for next spring.
Regardless of our roster, we are still going to kick some little kitty (Tiger) tail.
Albert Lea will have a shorter season than Faribault , again.
I hope Christmas Tree is enjoying her golf. With AL's short hockey season, she will have plenty of time to improve her swing for next spring.
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I will not comment on our roster. We will let it be a surprise.
However, I will say that when your gene pool is larger than 2 families, you have the depth to recover any roster loss. Our U14 is so strong, stronger than tiger town, that we can reload anybody. Our strength is our dominant team.
Does AL believe they are king of the hill?
However, I will say that when your gene pool is larger than 2 families, you have the depth to recover any roster loss. Our U14 is so strong, stronger than tiger town, that we can reload anybody. Our strength is our dominant team.
Does AL believe they are king of the hill?
WHAT??tigerpower wrote:Does this mean Ms. Foley did, in fact make the Thouroughbreds?falcons89 wrote:Regardless of our roster,
Again??Albert Lea will have a shorter season than Faribault , again.
I get it now... AL's season was about 2 hours shorter than Faribo's in fact. Wasn't that the night a 3 seed beat a 2 seed, O-VER-RA-TED, something like 5-2.
Speaking of seasons...I sure hope our AD adds a few games, there's only 19 on the schedule at this point.
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I hate to burst your bubble, but even if the AL team makes state, it could be the last time.HOCKEYPUCK2 wrote:OLYMPIA is totally correct. With or Without Foley, it is totally irrelevent.
I do not think there is a team in section 1A that can beat us or even come close. Albert Lea is Statebound.
2007-2010 is TIGER TIME. Make your hotel reservations now. St. Paul here we come.
Word is, the girl's hockey program is going to get CUT after this season.
T
"" I hate to burst your bubble, but even if the AL team makes state, it could be the last time.
Word is, the girl's hockey program is going to get CUT after this season. ""
Why are you spewing that kind of stuff? I can't see any high school touching a girls program. Title IX makes it much easier to cut boys programs. Open the checkbooks and fund all the sports! The kids are grown and gone so fast just relax and enjoy the little time you get.
Word is, the girl's hockey program is going to get CUT after this season. ""
Why are you spewing that kind of stuff? I can't see any high school touching a girls program. Title IX makes it much easier to cut boys programs. Open the checkbooks and fund all the sports! The kids are grown and gone so fast just relax and enjoy the little time you get.
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falcons89
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Twinnesota wrote:I hate to burst your bubble, but even if the AL team makes state, it could be the last time.HOCKEYPUCK2 wrote:OLYMPIA is totally correct. With or Without Foley, it is totally irrelevent.
I do not think there is a team in section 1A that can beat us or even come close. Albert Lea is Statebound.
2007-2010 is TIGER TIME. Make your hotel reservations now. St. Paul here we come.
Word is, the girl's hockey program is going to get CUT after this season.
T
Tinysota, you out did yourself with this one. I have to agree with Firecracker on this one. Title IX would also force AL to eliminate the boys program. Would Nystrom and the city of AlbertLea allow this? This rumor also floats among the hills of kitty town every year.
But think about the alternative if this were to happen. The big Albert Lea/Austin coop could happen. That is of course, if your cousins from Austin, would have you. Does that mean a coop would increase the gene pool to 3 families, or 4? The Austin boys team would get some new hazing meat, at the now infamous "packer" arena. I see this working. Not.