Crookston Roseau or Warroad 08 Section Champs?

[OGEE OGELTHORPE]

We expect Warroad to recruit in the 50 states, with the name Hockeytown "USA" I suppose they will have to change there name to Hockeytown "WORLD".

[#1hockeymom]

Warroad was once a town rich in hockey tradition, they have a tremendous arena and displays honoring there local hockey hero's. However I have lost all respect for there hockey program with the recruiting that is going on. They need to get back to there roots and build winning teams from within there own community. Maybe they should take a look down the road and learn from a respected progam like Roseau. Believe it or not I like alot of hockey people from Warroad but the decision makers need to clean up there act to bring back credibility to the program.

Love,

#1 Hockeymom

[badger69]

Okay im sorry but obviously your daughters AAA must be jealous. Its summer hockey its supposed to be fun. Your supposed to play with other girls from other towns and get to meet other girls. Its supposed to be fun. & I would really like to kno who warroad is recruiting. Because i havent heard anything yet. Warroads girls team is going to be comming back for revenge this year in sections after they got ripped off last year in the section championship against crookston with crookston reffs. Im deffinately not saying crookston didnt deserve it cuz the did jus as much as Warroad would have. But the reffing was still horrible and i kno thats not Crookstons fault obviously but still.

as for the crookston refs....if i remember correctly, Warroad had a 6-3 advantage in the last 2 minutes and didn't even get a shot off.

[Undercover Hockey Lover]

Warroad was once a town rich in hockey tradition, they have a tremendous arena and displays honoring there local hockey hero's. However I have lost all respect for there hockey program with the recruiting that is going on. They need to get back to there roots and build winning teams from within there own community. Maybe they should take a look down the road and learn from a respected progam like Roseau. Believe it or not I like alot of hockey people from Warroad but the decision makers need to clean up there act to bring back credibility to the program.

Love,

#1 Hockeymom

Mom, you must be a relative newcomer to the sport. You have no idea what Warroad has done over the past fifty years in supplementing their teams. It is part of their roots and part of their tradition like it or not. As for Roseau they were supplementing their teams way back when too, if fact, 2 of their best players of their dynasty of the late '50's were Canadians brought in as "hired guns". How do I know, I know the guys that were cut to make room for them. They've just done a better job of hiding their transgressions, their best method has been to keep quiet and point their finger toward the east. They've had Canadians, TRF players, Cities kids and exchange students (last seasons boys team had one in fact). They don't have a halo like you'd like to believe they are however very sanctimonous about their program. Warroad still has a credible, rich & respected hockey tradition and will continue to whether you think so or not. Women's hockey is still in it's infancy and Crookston may have had a breakthrough last season; it was fun watching them and possibly can again if their top guns stay healthy. The boys however haven't had any success since the private school tourney was folded into the public schools. As for Warroad changing their ways they don't need to because they aren't breaking any rules. If they are call the folks at the HS League and turn them in if you know it's happening and can prove it. You know I spent a weekend in Crookston this summer and was amazed at all the houses for sale in town seemed like one on every block. Maybe if there was some viable industry in the town to attract people your hockey teams would have more success. Curious why did the Yon's leave and move to Roseau and since they moved before their child was in HS is it OK. Yes, I know they are both from there but does leaving your community for "greener" pastures make it OK in your eyes. Would it have been recruiting if they'd have moved to Warroad?


So the point is.......your whole post is a bunch of self-righteous, uninformed bunk and frankly, I don't think anybody there cares whether they have your respect or not.

Do yourself a favor; ditch the finger pointing recruiting angle; all it is, is an attempt at an excuse if your girls fail. Worry about your own team and what they need to do to be successful. Support them by being the #1 Mom you are by positively cheering them on and baking them cookies.

[Cowboy1]

I think a lot of people were glad the Yons left. From what I hear he wanted to run the hockey programs and it was his way or the highway and since he didn't get it his way he chose the highway. Actually Crookston has many industries and new houses being built there but maybe you spent to much time in the residential areas looking for houses for sale to see them on your short stay there. Lets say Marvin Windows closed down, what would Warroad have? I still say Crookston will repeat as champs, Why because they have young talent moving up to help last years squad, and homegrown at that!!!

[SB24]

OUCH!!

[Undercover Hockey Lover]

OUCH!!

Ouch what. I see you (as usual) and cowboy missed the point. It is be informed before you whine about something you know little or nothing about, worry about your own club and be positive. Instead of pointing fingers and creating excuses to be used IF your team fails to live up to expectations. I used the Yon's as an example of people leaving a program for another program for whatever reason; it doesn't have to be that a family's daughter and/or son was recruited. As for Marvin's leaving Warroad they have in a sense; because they have expanded in Fargo and Grafton instead of Warroad because of Skip's fine. How many hundreds of millions of dollars and hundreds of jobs has the state of Minnesota especially Northwest Minnesota lost out on because of his over-zealous attempt at showing his strength just prior to his failed bid for governor.

Now back to the topic at hand....Crookston, Roseau or Warroad. It's refreshing to see a Section as balanced as this. Frankly, I'd like to see Crookston go again because they have unfinished business and could do well down there after gaining the experience they did last season.

[Undercover Hockey Lover]

Here's one I found from March 2, 2007

golden You are a cancer to all of Crookston hockey. If you are in fact really from Crookston I am glad that you are now living down in the Cities. Like MaMa say's "If you do not have anything good to say do not say anything at all." Hopefully you can grow up and make some possitive /constructive posts about hockey. I hope to see some improvement soon. Love, MOM

So pretty good advice to follow.

[Cowboy1]

Your right I shouldn't have commented on the Yon's that wasn't right. But Crookston is growing, and Crookston will repeat as Region Champs!

[#1hockeymom]

Dear UHL,

If you feel honor in supplementing your hockey program, then so be it. I have never stated that "supplementing" your team was against the MHSL rules, merely that it is immoral up north. I do agree with you that Warroad, Roseau, and Crookston provide great competition for each other during the regular season and it makes each team stronger. As for the Yon's moving back to their hometown of Roseau it was a logical choice. Tamara left the law firm and became a judge, & Billy I believe is a traveling salesman. They have family in Roseau with the added benefit of a great hockey program, one that propelled Billy to the Golden Gophers. It is my opinion that Crookston lost one heck of a coach with credentials - connections when Yon left town.

Now back to the original topic, I made an error in changing my pick to Warroad due to the "supplementing". I am firmly committing to the Crookston Pirates for the section championship! You will have to excuse me now UHL as I have monster cookies baking in the oven, stop by soon and have one.

If A equals success, then the formula A equals X plus Y and Z, with X being work, Y play and Z keeping your mouth shut. 'Albert Einstein'

Love,

#1Hockeymom

[SB24]

haha No I think you missed my point.

[Undercover Hockey Lover]

Mom, are we talking the Oatmeal with M&M's the size of a small plate kind. If so, I'm there ...I'll even pick up the milk...Whole or 2%, I can't do that watered down pink labeled junk. And don't give any to that SB24 kid .....he's a Lady Warrior fan. .... .......

[oldram]

Under Cover wrote: As for Roseau they were supplementing their teams way back when too, if fact, 2 of their best players of their dynasty of the late '50's were Canadians brought in as "hired guns". How do I know, I know the guys that were cut to make room for them. They've just done a better job of hiding their transgressions, their best method has been to keep quiet and point their finger toward the east. They've had Canadians, TRF players, Cities kids and exchange students (last seasons boys team had one in fact). They don't have a halo like you'd like to believe they are however very sanctimonous about their program.

Who were the imports in the late '50's? I looked at those pictures millions of times as a kid. I also know most of the people in the pictures. Just curious.

[Valley Eggroll]

I think Roseau will be good enough to win. The Rams Rock.

[Undercover Hockey Lover]

Under Cover wrote: As for Roseau they were supplementing their teams way back when too, if fact, 2 of their best players of their dynasty of the late '50's were Canadians brought in as "hired guns". How do I know, I know the guys that were cut to make room for them. They've just done a better job of hiding their transgressions, their best method has been to keep quiet and point their finger toward the east. They've had Canadians, TRF players, Cities kids and exchange students (last seasons boys team had one in fact). They don't have a halo like you'd like to believe they are however very sanctimonous about their program.

Who were the imports in the late '50's? I looked at those pictures millions of times as a kid. I also know most of the people in the pictures. Just curious.

Believe the last name is Bulacua, I know that isn't spelled right but you'll figure it out from there.

[hockeylife,mylife]

People who are going to go on here and start talking about Warroad "recruiting" should at least know the story before they make stuff up. ONe girl came from Roseau. She hated it there. Whether it be the coaches, the players, or the program, I don't know. But from what I hear she is liking Warroad alot better so far. The next girl was only living with a family until her dad was able too move up earlier this month. She is now still living with that family, but it is with her dad and only until they can get their own house. I don't know much about the last girl except that she comes froma town where she won't have much of a chance to get anywhere with hockey when she is good enough. Warroad barely has enough girls to make a team, yet again. They only had one senior last year but because of other problems and such they have lost at least 4 more players. They need to be able to make a team. Plain and simple.

[hockeyheaven]

People who are going to go on here and start talking about Warroad "recruiting" should at least know the story before they make stuff up. ONe girl came from Roseau. She hated it there. Whether it be the coaches, the players, or the program, I don't know. But from what I hear she is liking Warroad alot better so far. The next girl was only living with a family until her dad was able too move up earlier this month. She is now still living with that family, but it is with her dad and only until they can get their own house. I don't know much about the last girl except that she comes froma town where she won't have much of a chance to get anywhere with hockey when she is good enough. Warroad barely has enough girls to make a team, yet again. They only had one senior last year but because of other problems and such they have lost at least 4 more players. They need to be able to make a team. Plain and simple.

Hockeylife, mylife, I hear you, I agree with you, but please take it from me (been there, said that) your only spitting in the ocean. None of these people want to hear it. Plain and simple, they only see these players as a threat to their teams. Sure they will tell tales of tradition and civic pride and how wrong (almost blasphemous to some) it is to “recruit”. They don't care that these players may have determined and pursued it on their own given the fact that this may be great opportunity for them to further their hockey and academic careers. Or that it might give a small community a chance to compete. What it comes down to is that they are just not interested in what’s best for those individuals only that it might make Warroad stronger and thus a greater foe. So, from experience, just let it go.

[RoseauWarrior]

Warroad barely has enough girls to make a team, yet again. They only had one senior last year but because of other problems and such they have lost at least 4 more players. They need to be able to make a team. Plain and simple.

They barely have enough girls because of the coach. Why did they lose 4 more players this year? Because of the coach. He only wants certain people to play. He didn't like one of the girls so he falsely accused her of a crime. (to the police I might add) I hear that she isn't playing this year, and a person can't blame her for that because of what he did.

I've also heard (and I fully admit this is rumor, I don't know for sure) that the 14U coach is basically discouraging some of the 8th graders that move up to that team from playing this year. He's said he wants to maintain a "short bench" and that maybe some of those girls can form a 14U B team or something.

If they only recruit because they don't have enough girls to field a team, why in the world would they discourage 8th grade girls from playing hockey? They are still developing into the players that they can be. I think some of the Warroad coaches need to stop living for the win and start living for the good of the program and start trying to develop TEAMS that play and win together all the way up.

[Sioux Rule]

Well stated, RoseauWarrior. I don't have a problem with girls moving into Warroad without being recruited. It's all the things that go on behind closed doors, to make room for other girls, that at the same time, hurt the local girls. I'm sure some are rumors, but I'd bet not ALL of them are rumors. Basically, it's cut and dried.....Warroad recruits. I don't care what kind of spin you put on it or what kind of reasoning you put behind it.

[winnings not 4 everyone]

How about we just let Warroads girls program fold because of lack of numbers. That will help everyone elses chance to win the section. Better yet, maybe they should consolidate with Roseau. That way Story can play in Roseau without the Rams having to recruit her. I'm sure they would be happy to take Warroads girls. Hmm, I wonder if they would play all of them? Maybe just the ones they want, wouldn't want to take ice time away from any of their own.

[Undercover Hockey Lover]

How about we just let Warroads girls program fold because of lack of numbers. That will help everyone elses chance to win the section. Better yet, maybe they should consolidate with Roseau. That way Story can play in Roseau without the Rams having to recruit her. I'm sure they would be happy to take Warroads girls. Hmm, I wonder if they would play all of them? Maybe just the ones they want, wouldn't want to take ice time away from any of their own.

Well Ok...why then is the 14U coach who is walking in lock-step with the HS coach telling 8th grade girls to hang'em up and he's going to run a short bench. It's a recreational activity...not a way of life; like some people seem to think..let everyone play.

[RoseauWarrior]

the 14U coach who is walking in lock-step with the HS coach

Now THAT is funny! I had about 5 different zingers along the lines of this written in my previous post, but I deleted all of them. I love your statement, it really made me laugh.

[hockeylife,mylife]

Okay, since some people obviouly won't ever learn I'll drop the recruiting thing and just ask them to think before they speak. But, the 14u coach never told anyone not to play. They way there are doing this is that any 14u eligible girl can try out for high school and if they wont be in the first two lines they wont make the team and even then the 14u coach will decide if he wants to let those people go or keep them down. And about the 4 that quit. 2 of them just didn't want to play. Not because of the coach because they get along just fine. one moved. and the 4th is still up in the air about what tahts all about. its just to confusing to blame in anyone person.

[winnings not 4 everyone]

Here's the real world as it pertains to sports. In 8th grade, my daughter was one of 32 8th grade volleyball players. As a senior, she was 1 of 3 still playing. Why? Because not everyone was cut out to be a volleyball player and not everyone put their time in on the offseason to improve. Take a look at your own schools programs in volleyball, basketball, etc. There is ALWAYS attrition from 8th grade on up. Why blame the coach? Put some of the responsibilityback on kids that are not cut out to play at a higher level. Every sport has their bench players. Because of the ego in hockey, these bench players usually just quit. It is not the coaches job to make sure every kid succeeds if they don't have the motivation or ability. Go back to grade school if you think it will always be "for fun"!

[Valley Eggroll]

I might have to change my vote to Crookston for section champs. Way to many politics up north. My vote will go to whichever team plays all their players. That's what it's all about.