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Then why would make such a comment about one player and not the rest? If it is such a universal, it is kind of pointless to even state it then.The Exiled One wrote:Except for people with pathological disorders, every action every person takes has to be justified to themselves.
Actually, I didn't criticize any of your choices. They are legit. I just remarked on some of the commentary/logic.The Exiled One wrote:Care to make any before criticizing mine?
So your issue isn't with my logic, it's with my motive. Your first guess on my motive is probably correct.Gopher Blog wrote:Then why would make such a comment about one player and not the rest? If it is such a universal, it is kind of pointless to even state it then.The Exiled One wrote:Except for people with pathological disorders, every action every person takes has to be justified to themselves.
I'm certianly not a Edina guy but from what I have seen, and IMO of all the Hornet players i've watched Marshall is the most complete, skates hard, and has good feet, vision is excellent and sees the ice well, and can put the puck in the net.edinalover1 wrote:Marshall Everson FTW
He has always been one of my favorite HS players in the last few years. But you have to admit that he does get set up very well by Budish. But Everson certainly knows how to bury the puck.Can't Never Tried wrote:I'm certianly not a Edina guy but from what I have seen, and IMO of all the Hornet players i've watched Marshall is the most complete, skates hard, and has good feet, vision is excellent and sees the ice well, and can put the puck in the net.edinalover1 wrote:Marshall Everson FTW
Congratulations to all of these talented players for staying in high school for their senior years. They are making the choice to stay with their friends, graduate from their high school and take a run at going to the state tournament. I am sure the JR teams that drafted them would love for them to be playing in the USHL. In my opinion, it shows the value of high school hockey and the Elite League as development paths & opportunities.breakout wrote:Great group of namesThe Exiled One wrote:Although a lot can change through the course of the season, I'm going to shorten my prediction list. Though Leddy is my frontrunner for defensemen, I think the forward class is too deep to pick any blueliner. And, as far as I know, the class and classroom character of the players on my list is sound, so that just leaves their actually hockey performance and how the scouts and coaches project them to do after HS. So now that we have a better idea of who is NOT going to juniors, this is my shortened prediction list...
Danny Mattson- Academy Of Holy Angels
- Danny should be able to put up some numbers, but AHA will have to have an improved season (and likely make State) for him to have a chance.
Zach Budish- Edina
- Assuming Zach keeps pace with Everson and Lee, he should be the frontrunner amongst all candidates including his teammates. Everson and Lee were already passed over in the NHL draft, which indicates that the scouts will favor Zach in the voting process.
Tyler Pitlick- Centennial
- Tyler did what he needed to do in getting named to the USA U18 Select Team, now he just has to dominate his competition to take the lead.
Ben Hanowski- Little Falls
- The big IF for Ben is can he put up triple digit points without his brother or Festler? If he can, the voters will have to justify to themselves why they AREN'T voting for him.
I didn't name any of the Roseau boys because Oliver projects as the better pro but Landman should put up better numbers, thereby cancelling eachother out. Again, these are just predictions, and a lot can change throughout the course of the season.
Additions:
Leddy, US Under 17 & 18 selection and, I believe the only one of the bunch invited to play at NTDP.
Oliver, US Under 17 & 18 selection and committed to St. Cloud State. Landman is talented, but will more than likely follow behind Oliver.
Lapic? Should put up big numbers. The size of his school might hold him back.
Well said.breakout wrote:Congratulations to all of these talented players for staying in high school for their senior years. They are making the choice to stay with their friends, graduate from their high school and take a run at going to the state tournament. I am sure the JR teams that drafted them would love for them to be playing in the USHL. In my opinion, it shows the value of high school hockey and the Elite League as development paths & opportunities.breakout wrote:Great group of namesThe Exiled One wrote:Although a lot can change through the course of the season, I'm going to shorten my prediction list. Though Leddy is my frontrunner for defensemen, I think the forward class is too deep to pick any blueliner. And, as far as I know, the class and classroom character of the players on my list is sound, so that just leaves their actually hockey performance and how the scouts and coaches project them to do after HS. So now that we have a better idea of who is NOT going to juniors, this is my shortened prediction list...
Danny Mattson- Academy Of Holy Angels
- Danny should be able to put up some numbers, but AHA will have to have an improved season (and likely make State) for him to have a chance.
Zach Budish- Edina
- Assuming Zach keeps pace with Everson and Lee, he should be the frontrunner amongst all candidates including his teammates. Everson and Lee were already passed over in the NHL draft, which indicates that the scouts will favor Zach in the voting process.
Tyler Pitlick- Centennial
- Tyler did what he needed to do in getting named to the USA U18 Select Team, now he just has to dominate his competition to take the lead.
Ben Hanowski- Little Falls
- The big IF for Ben is can he put up triple digit points without his brother or Festler? If he can, the voters will have to justify to themselves why they AREN'T voting for him.
I didn't name any of the Roseau boys because Oliver projects as the better pro but Landman should put up better numbers, thereby cancelling eachother out. Again, these are just predictions, and a lot can change throughout the course of the season.
Additions:
Leddy, US Under 17 & 18 selection and, I believe the only one of the bunch invited to play at NTDP.
Oliver, US Under 17 & 18 selection and committed to St. Cloud State. Landman is talented, but will more than likely follow behind Oliver.
Lapic? Should put up big numbers. The size of his school might hold him back.
That same course seemed to work for Aaron Ness and Jake Gardiner. Both were high NHL draft choices.
sinbin006 wrote:1998 - Johnny Pohl - Red Wing - Class APapa Bergundy wrote:Can a class A player even win the award? I am pretty sure they can't.mch wrote: from this list i'm gonna wager that a tyler wins it
Coleraine (Greenway) was a AA school when Guyer won... and 87 - 88 it was still a one class systemGoldy Gopher wrote:sinbin006 wrote:1998 - Johnny Pohl - Red Wing - Class APapa Bergundy wrote: Can a class A player even win the award? I am pretty sure they can't.
2002- Gino Guyer- Greenway (Coleraine)- Class A
1988- Larry Olimb- Warroad- Class A
1987- Kris Miller- Greenway (Coleraine)- Class A
The Exiled One wrote:Budish was the USA's best player in their losing effort at the Ivan Hlinka tournament. Although Oliver, Pitlick, and Leddy didn't do poorly, Budish probably added some distance from all of them. There's a lot that could happen between now and the end of the high school season, but if they gave out a preseason Mr. Hockey award, I'd rank the top three this way...
1. Budish
2. Hanowski
3. Leddy
Budish's first name is Zach. Hanowski plays for Little Falls. Leddy has committed to the Gophers. Those are facts.Can't Never Tried wrote:The Exiled One wrote:Budish was the USA's best player in their losing effort at the Ivan Hlinka tournament. Although Oliver, Pitlick, and Leddy didn't do poorly, Budish probably added some distance from all of them. There's a lot that could happen between now and the end of the high school season, but if they gave out a preseason Mr. Hockey award, I'd rank the top three this way...
1. Budish
2. Hanowski
3. Leddy
Supporting facts please!
Noted.quickgym guy wrote:Coleraine (Greenway) was a AA school when Guyer won... and 87 - 88 it was still a one class systemGoldy Gopher wrote:sinbin006 wrote: 1998 - Johnny Pohl - Red Wing - Class A
2002- Gino Guyer- Greenway (Coleraine)- Class A
1988- Larry Olimb- Warroad- Class A
1987- Kris Miller- Greenway (Coleraine)- Class A
He'd have to have the greatest half-season in the history of HS hockey.Bash Brother wrote:He wont play at all... so this question is irrelevant. However it can be won only playing half the season... although unlikely.TheSniper09 wrote:if Budish only plays half of the year with his injury can he still get mr. hockey?
Thats why i said unlikely... but after a private school kid won it i say nothing is out of the ordinary.komada77 wrote:He'd have to have the greatest half-season in the history of HS hockey.Bash Brother wrote:He wont play at all... so this question is irrelevant. However it can be won only playing half the season... although unlikely.TheSniper09 wrote:if Budish only plays half of the year with his injury can he still get mr. hockey?
Or so he thinks
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