STARS AND STRIPES SCORES

[pwdad]

You're right - I'm sure he got nothing out of it.

[Sk8 Str8]

I am sure you won't see a mass press release from BM's tournament this time. His two poster child teams, the 96s and 99s both lost.
The 99 Blades crushed his almighty 99 Machine. Most of the game was running time.

I heard the Deuce at the 96 level also got put into running time this weekend by the Blades and Minnesota Legacy teams. It seems like the aura and mystic of Minnesota Made is losing a little luster - perhaps at some levels more than others.

Who won at the 97 level?

How many goals did Easton Synergy score this weekend, did they manage 4 in 4 games? Maybe the 96 Deuce should rainbow with Synergy for the next Alliance tourney.

Some good hockey this weekend, do we have Champs for each level posted anywhere?

[mnhkylvr]

Okay - from the posts all I've been able to determine is:

'01 Chmp = doesn't really matter
'00 Chmp = ???
'99 Chmp = Blades
'98 Chmp = ???
'97 Chmp = ???
'96 Chmp = WI Selects
'95 Chmp = ??? (sorry - forgot there is no '95 team now...)

[play4fun]

Okay - from the posts all I've been able to determine is:

'01 Chmp = doesn't really matter
'00 Chmp = Machine
'99 Chmp = Blades
'98 Chmp = Jr. Steelers?
'97 Chmp = Machine
'96 Chmp = WI Selects
'95 Chmp = ??? (sorry - forgot there is no '95 team now...)

[mnhkylvr]

Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

[phil mccracken]

Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

[mnhkylvr]

Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

Thanks - did the Machine win or did play4fun get it right with the Steelers as champs...and do you know score?

[Guns N' Roses]

phil mccracken wrote:
mnhkylvr wrote:
Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!


The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.


Thanks - did the Machine win or did play4fun get it right with the Steelers as champs...and do you know score?

98 machine won 5-2 with an empty netter in the championship. 00 machine won 6-5 in the championship also.

[TheJet]

Who did 2000 Machine play in finals? Thx in advance for response.

[iwearmysunglassesatnight]

[quote="TheJet"]Who did 2000 Machine play in finals? Thx in advance for response.[/quote]

LA Jr Kings, they played the whole team... Winner not so much

[EnjoyTheShow]

Who did 2000 Machine play in finals? Thx in advance for response.

LA Jr Kings, they played the whole team... Winner not so much

Yeah, that's shocking!!! The Orange should send a couple down to the deuce, that way they might pull even with the synergy and those kids will actually get to play the game. My understanding is there were a couple of kids that saw 1 shift all game.

[Doglover]

I would want a refund! A lot to pay for the "honor" of wearing an orange jersey and shirt and tie. I have heard that parents are starting to wise up though. There's hope.

[boardmember]

I would want a refund! A lot to pay for the "honor" of wearing an orange jersey and shirt and tie. I have heard that parents are starting to wise up though. There's hope.

You will need add all those Blades kids from the 1999 team to that refund list that did not get to dress because kids were flown in from elsewere for this event.

[MrBoDangles]

I would want a refund! A lot to pay for the "honor" of wearing an orange jersey and shirt and tie. I have heard that parents are starting to wise up though. There's hope.

You will need add all those Blades kids from the 1999 team to that refund list that did not get to dress because kids were flown in from elsewere for this event.

I believe there is one program that puts the kids in importance before money (The MN Miracle). I wish we would have went with them this summer.......... Or could I be wrong?

[phil mccracken]

I would want a refund! A lot to pay for the "honor" of wearing an orange jersey and shirt and tie. I have heard that parents are starting to wise up though. There's hope.

You will need add all those Blades kids from the 1999 team to that refund list that did not get to dress because kids were flown in from elsewere for this event.

board : do you know of any tournament kids that did not get to play? You are 100% wrong.

[Magnaesq]

Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

The '98 brackets were a disaster. Every solid team, except Anaheim, was in the Red Bracket: Machine, Jr. Steelers, Mustangs, Easton Synergy, Jr. Kings. The Blue Bracket had MLH, X-treme, Deuce, Predators and Wildcats. Anaheim loafed their way to the semis. In cross-over play, every Blue Bracket team lost to their Red Bracket opponent by large margins (except Anaheim, which lost by 1 to the Jr. Steelers).

[hockeydad30]

Hey Thanks! Can anyone else confirm the '98's? I know Anaheim is pretty solid as well - so wasn't sure how this all washed out!

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

The '98 brackets were a disaster. Every solid team, except Anaheim, was in the Red Bracket: Machine, Jr. Steelers, Mustangs, Easton Synergy, Jr. Kings. The Blue Bracket had MLH, X-treme, Deuce, Predators and Wildcats. Anaheim loafed their way to the semis. In cross-over play, every Blue Bracket team lost to their Red Bracket opponent by large margins (except Anaheim, which lost by 1 to the Jr. Steelers).

It almost seems that teams are going to have to watch what tournaments they enter or start to class the games. it would be nice to see an Invite 1 with teams of the blades , Machine,icemen caliber, Followed by invite 2 LSS, Northern Wings,Deuce,Thunder Bay, bulldogs, or Badgers.then an open catigory. Teams then would play and move up as they grew stronger. Nobody likes winning or losing a 9-2 game. Much more fun to have games close and challanging.

[JSR]

The Anaheim Wildcats made it too the semifinals. They were good and had a few 99's as well. The Machine was in the 98' finals.

The '98 brackets were a disaster. Every solid team, except Anaheim, was in the Red Bracket: Machine, Jr. Steelers, Mustangs, Easton Synergy, Jr. Kings. The Blue Bracket had MLH, X-treme, Deuce, Predators and Wildcats. Anaheim loafed their way to the semis. In cross-over play, every Blue Bracket team lost to their Red Bracket opponent by large margins (except Anaheim, which lost by 1 to the Jr. Steelers).

It almost seems that teams are going to have to watch what tournaments they enter or start to class the games. it would be nice to see an Invite 1 with teams of the blades , Machine,icemen caliber, Followed by invite 2 LSS, Northern Wings,Deuce,Thunder Bay, bulldogs, or Badgers.then an open catigory. Teams then would play and move up as they grew stronger. Nobody likes winning or losing a 9-2 game. Much more fun to have games close and challanging.

Why?? The kids don't care. Sounds like stuff more for the adults and less for the kids. And FYI, no matter how many "classes" you try and insitute 9-2 games will happen. I have seeen teams win 9-2 and the very next day the exact same teams play and the same team that won 9-2 loses to the other team. They are kids leave it alone, the tourney's are fine.

[hockeydad30]

The '98 brackets were a disaster. Every solid team, except Anaheim, was in the Red Bracket: Machine, Jr. Steelers, Mustangs, Easton Synergy, Jr. Kings. The Blue Bracket had MLH, X-treme, Deuce, Predators and Wildcats. Anaheim loafed their way to the semis. In cross-over play, every Blue Bracket team lost to their Red Bracket opponent by large margins (except Anaheim, which lost by 1 to the Jr. Steelers).

It almost seems that teams are going to have to watch what tournaments they enter or start to class the games. it would be nice to see an Invite 1 with teams of the blades , Machine,icemen caliber, Followed by invite 2 LSS, Northern Wings,Deuce,Thunder Bay, bulldogs, or Badgers.then an open catigory. Teams then would play and move up as they grew stronger. Nobody likes winning or losing a 9-2 game. Much more fun to have games close and challanging.

Why?? The kids don't care. Sounds like stuff more for the adults and less for the kids. And FYI, no matter how many "classes" you try and insitute 9-2 games will happen. I have seeen teams win 9-2 and the very next day the exact same teams play and the same team that won 9-2 loses to the other team. They are kids leave it alone, the tourney's are fine.

Could be but your not going to see RBK beat the Machine. I think the kids do care. At least I know mine does. Its one thing to compete and have a good game its another when your out classed and know it.

[JSR]

It almost seems that teams are going to have to watch what tournaments they enter or start to class the games. it would be nice to see an Invite 1 with teams of the blades , Machine,icemen caliber, Followed by invite 2 LSS, Northern Wings,Deuce,Thunder Bay, bulldogs, or Badgers.then an open catigory. Teams then would play and move up as they grew stronger. Nobody likes winning or losing a 9-2 game. Much more fun to have games close and challanging.

Why?? The kids don't care. Sounds like stuff more for the adults and less for the kids. And FYI, no matter how many "classes" you try and insitute 9-2 games will happen. I have seeen teams win 9-2 and the very next day the exact same teams play and the same team that won 9-2 loses to the other team. They are kids leave it alone, the tourney's are fine.

Could be but your not going to see RBK beat the Machine. I think the kids do care. At least I know mine does. Its one thing to compete and have a good game its another when your out classed and know it.

I feel bad for any child under 12 that would even be aware of what being "outclassed" even means (though I doubt they do). My son has never left the ice not having a good time. I remember after a team he was on got beat 11-3 (first time he was ever involved on that end of a real bad score) I asked him if he was ok, he looked at me puzzled and said "yes, why?", so I asked if he had fun and he said "of course, I was playing hockey, why wouldn't I have had fun". That's all I needed to hear we never discussed the outcome or the score, he just knew he was on the ice playing the game he loves whiich is how it' ssupposed to be. If that ever changes in him, well that'll be the day I might not let him play anymore

[hockeydad30]

Why?? The kids don't care. Sounds like stuff more for the adults and less for the kids. And FYI, no matter how many "classes" you try and insitute 9-2 games will happen. I have seeen teams win 9-2 and the very next day the exact same teams play and the same team that won 9-2 loses to the other team. They are kids leave it alone, the tourney's are fine.

Could be but your not going to see RBK beat the Machine. I think the kids do care. At least I know mine does. Its one thing to compete and have a good game its another when your out classed and know it.

I feel bad for any child under 12 that would even be aware of what being "outclassed" even means (though I doubt they do). My son has never left the ice not having a good time. I remember after a team he was on got beat 11-3 (first time he was ever involved on that end of a real bad score) I asked him if he was ok, he looked at me puzzled and said "yes, why?", so I asked if he had fun and he said "of course, I was playing hockey, why wouldn't I have had fun". That's all I needed to hear we never discussed the outcome or the score, he just knew he was on the ice playing the game he loves whiich is how it' ssupposed to be. If that ever changes in him, well that'll be the day I might not let him play anymore

outclaseed was my term he would say we never had a chance or something like that, But I never said he wouldn't injoy the game but it bothers him to lose. All kids are different and theres lots that feel this way

[JSR]

Could be but your not going to see RBK beat the Machine. I think the kids do care. At least I know mine does. Its one thing to compete and have a good game its another when your out classed and know it.

I feel bad for any child under 12 that would even be aware of what being "outclassed" even means (though I doubt they do). My son has never left the ice not having a good time. I remember after a team he was on got beat 11-3 (first time he was ever involved on that end of a real bad score) I asked him if he was ok, he looked at me puzzled and said "yes, why?", so I asked if he had fun and he said "of course, I was playing hockey, why wouldn't I have had fun". That's all I needed to hear we never discussed the outcome or the score, he just knew he was on the ice playing the game he loves whiich is how it' ssupposed to be. If that ever changes in him, well that'll be the day I might not let him play anymore

outclaseed was my term he would say we never had a chance or something like that, But I never said he wouldn't injoy the game but it bothers him to lose. All kids are different and theres lots that feel this way

I know there are, we have them on our team as well. I feel bad for them. One of them on our team is one of my son's best friends and his dad is always saying things to me like"maybe your son will rub on on my boy.....". But the thing is it's crystal clear to all us other parents that his son acts that way because of the way the dad acts. The dad isn't horrible but he's always telling the kid he didn't skate hard enough and some other negative things. I don't hear alot of encouragement out of the dad so the kid thinks the only reason to play hockey is to win. Don't get me wrong, I'm not one of those parents who advocates not keeping score blah blah blah, cometitiveness is important my point was it's not the ONLY reason to play at 8 years old.

[Doglover]

I agree that most kids just love to play hockey (and it's more the parents who care about the score, playing time, lines, etc) but I think the truly competitive players by nature, like to win or at the very least, lose in a very competitive game. If your kid doesn't seem to notice or mind getting blown out by a far superior team - good for him. He'll probably play hockey the rest of his life and always enjoy the game - just don't be overly surprised if he never advances to a high level.

I know mine hated to lose and that competitive spirit drove them to get better and play better. Before you jump in with the comments I can anticipate, you don't have to be a poor loser or a bad sport in order to be competitive. If your kid doesn't mind losing that badly though, there is nothing to motivate him to improve or become better. Just remember to be satisfied with whatever level he achieves as long as he continues to enjoy the game and don't be one of the complaining parents if he doesn't make the select teams as he gets older. Of course he could always grow to be 6'2" tall and 200 lbs and totally dominate in HS! Gotta love this game.

[JSR]

I agree that most kids just love to play hockey (and it's more the parents who care about the score, playing time, lines, etc) but I think the truly competitive players by nature, like to win or at the very least, lose in a very competitive game. If your kid doesn't seem to notice or mind getting blown out by a far superior team - good for him. He'll probably play hockey the rest of his life and always enjoy the game - just don't be overly surprised if he never advances to a high level.

I know mine hated to lose and that competitive spirit drove them to get better and play better. Before you jump in with the comments I can anticipate, you don't have to be a poor loser or a bad sport in order to be competitive. If your kid doesn't mind losing that badly though, there is nothing to motivate him to improve or become better. Just remember to be satisfied with whatever level he achieves as long as he continues to enjoy the game and don't be one of the complaining parents if he doesn't make the select teams as he gets older. Of course he could always grow to be 6'2" tall and 200 lbs and totally dominate in HS! Gotta love this game.

I disagree with the part I bolded. Everyone is motivated by different things, some by winning, some by loses, soem by internal drive just to get better, etc... etc... literally everyone is different.