Nice story on WCCO

[High Off The Glass]

I think I will just keep my eyes open and see for myself. Sorry, but I am not about to believe something like that without some kind of proof. Oh, and yes I will keep drinking the orange kool aid.

This is your answer? I guess you don't have the guts to find out for yourself. You would make a great Liberal politician...Never answer the hard questions, just avoid it, and go after the reporter.

For the last time, why won't you ask BM? A lot of MM issues have been brought up, and you don't believe the majority? Settle these issues once and for all and call him up, or corner him at the rink and ask. Grow a pair and man-up. Can't wait to hear your next personal attack and avoidance of the main issue.

OK - I'll ask. It'll go something like this....

"Hi Bernie - there's this complete bong loving idiot on a hockey forum I visit who claims, but has no proof that you make kids do knee bends during games. Is that true?"

His response:

"Oh yeah you must be talking about High Off the Glass, I know that guy, ever since I had to cut his kid, he has been making up stuff like that. He's mildly retarded so you'll have to forgive him."

I did not bring up the subject of knee bends, someone else did, I, along with several others, confirmed it. Once again, resort to the insult and avoid the issue that BM is not the next coming of Jesus. Go ahead and pray at his feet at the MM alter. Can he turn water into wine or should I say LittleJonny41 into Wayne Gretzky?

[GreatOne99]

HD41. Were you dropped on your head as a kid? What color is the sky in your world? How come you won't answer when it comes to asking BM for yourself? Is it because you know the answer already?

Why does BM put curtains up when the Machine practices when the only people at the rink are parents of those players behind the curtains?

I've seen that also. Why?

[Dave's a mess!]

Just wondering about all the Machine kids sitting on the bench in between shifts. (instead of standing up waiting for their turn) What is the supposed advantages of doing this or do you think their are any disadvantages to doing this? (not a critisism, honestly wondering why its done)

Couple reasons I can think of:

#1 - So the kids have time to recover quicker (get off their feet, take a few deep breaths and grab a drink of water). Gotta think there is a little bit of a physical edge if the kids got off their feet for a portion of the game instead of standing the whole time. I also imagine there is some study out there that proves this point.

#2 - Easier to run the bench - kids aren't jockeying around, hanging over the boards, fighting for their place in line etc. . . and the coaches know where everyone is at so it's easier to make a change or move kids around if necessary. Just another part of the discipline of a well organized team.

[HockeyDad41]

This is your answer? I guess you don't have the guts to find out for yourself. You would make a great Liberal politician...Never answer the hard questions, just avoid it, and go after the reporter.

For the last time, why won't you ask BM? A lot of MM issues have been brought up, and you don't believe the majority? Settle these issues once and for all and call him up, or corner him at the rink and ask. Grow a pair and man-up. Can't wait to hear your next personal attack and avoidance of the main issue.

OK - I'll ask. It'll go something like this....

"Hi Bernie - there's this complete bong loving idiot on a hockey forum I visit who claims, but has no proof that you make kids do knee bends during games. Is that true?"

His response:

"Oh yeah you must be talking about High Off the Glass, I know that guy, ever since I had to cut his kid, he has been making up stuff like that. He's mildly retarded so you'll have to forgive him."

I did not bring up the subject of knee bends, someone else did, I, along with several others, confirmed it. Once again, resort to the insult and avoid the issue that BM is not the next coming of Jesus. Go ahead and pray at his feet at the MM alter. Can he turn water into wine or should I say LittleJonny41 into Wayne Gretzky?

Oh I see, you can dish it out but you can't take it ya big baby.

Let me ask you this: When little bongsmoker had to do the knee bends, did you immediately pull him from the game?

[dogeatdog1]

Little Jonny41 is 6'3" and 215. Bring it.

I highly doubt that .. 6'3" 215 doesn't fit Bernies mold... have you seen the prototype machine kid? It is kind of funny that he picks all of these little fleas for his young teams because they can fly and then when they are still the same size at 12-13 he cuts them cuz their parents are sawed off little runts and he gives them the old " Well it appears Johnny won't grow to be 6'3" and his days here are done" That has happened just like the burpie bench antics..You will probably have to this verified too but I'm just sayin... I've been around the rinks a LONG time and this stuff doesn't change...Wish Johnny41 well and I am pretty sure that my teams won't 1. be losing to MM 12 to 1 so he won't have the opportunity to run over a kid on the sidelines or 2. Little Johnny41 will be playing for one of the 15 Supporting teams that don't have the chance to beat teams 12-1 so they don't take the humiliation to that extent. Either way good luck and I hope Johnny41 gets that scholarship that BM promises.

[HockeyDad41]

I highly doubt that .. 6'3" 215 doesn't fit Bernies mold... have you seen the prototype machine kid? It is kind of funny that he picks all of these little fleas for his young teams because they can fly and then when they are still the same size at 12-13 he cuts them cuz their parents are sawed off little runts and he gives them the old " Well it appears Johnny won't grow to be 6'3" and his days here are done" That has happened just like the burpie bench antics..You will probably have to this verified too but I'm just sayin... I've been around the rinks a LONG time and this stuff doesn't change...Wish Johnny41 well and I am pretty sure that my teams won't 1. be losing to MM 12 to 1 so he won't have the opportunity to run over a kid on the sidelines or 2. Little Johnny41 will be playing for one of the 15 Supporting teams that don't have the chance to beat teams 12-1 so they don't take the humiliation to that extent. Either way good luck and I hope Johnny41 gets that scholarship that BM promises.

I don't doubt that some kids get cut if they stop being able to perform at that level. I am sure they found teams that were more appropriate to their skill level and had a great time. The parents probably took longer to get over it than the kid. If the posters on this board are any indication, some never get over it.

[dogeatdog1]

Are you talking from experience? Did little dogeatdogjr fly around for awhile and then get cut? That would explain the bitterness I guess.

cmon now HD41 with 222 posts on this board you should know that I am an equal opportunity ripper... and I shouldn't have to state it to you but my puppies are not BM types. They enjoy hockey in a different way and do just fine. I am out on this board trying to give advice and create some lively discussions and I thought that you would be able to come up with something better than "OH SO YOUR KID GOT CUT AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE BITTER" first of all I am not a bitter guy and actually like playing against the machine and duece teams. Good competition drives development. I just love it when you singleminded people get on here and spout the praises of any program without the whole story.. You obviously see the good in MM and believe me I know that there are good things that come out of there too.. but You really need to walk around that rink with blinders on to not notice issues... and then you won't believe 20 people confirming some issues.. I thought I was done ripping you and going to wish you luck but as you said "bring it".. Cause I gots a million come backs for the your kid got cut line...

[EnjoyTheShow]

I don't doubt that some kids get cut if they stop being able to perform at that level. I am sure they found teams that were more appropriate to their skill level and had a great time. The parents probably took longer to get over it than the kid. If the posters on this board are any indication, some never get over it.

insecure41,

Do you even have a player at MM or do you just like irritating people with your general ignorance. The truth is you wouldn't Ask Bernie because your would end up doing knee bends, or bending over in some other way to ensure little insecure#41 can continue to skate down at MM.

Do me a favor. You are down at MM or atleast you say you are. Ask a parent on the 99 machine team, any parent, I'm sure you haven't irritated them all yet. Ask them what happened after they won the Subway championship in Manitoba. Heck, Ask one of the kids how the locker room was after the final. Let me know what they have to tell you. If that doesn't open your eyes, there is no hope.

[HockeyDad41]

cmon now HD41 with 222 posts on this board you should know that I am an equal opportunity ripper... and I shouldn't have to state it to you but my puppies are not BM types. They enjoy hockey in a different way and do just fine. I am out on this board trying to give advice and create some lively discussions and I thought that you would be able to come up with something better than "OH SO YOUR KID GOT CUT AND THAT IS WHY YOU ARE BITTER" first of all I am not a bitter guy and actually like playing against the machine and duece teams. Good competition drives development. I just love it when you singleminded people get on here and spout the praises of any program without the whole story.. You obviously see the good in MM and believe me I know that there are good things that come out of there too.. but You really need to walk around that rink with blinders on to not notice issues... and then you won't believe 20 people confirming some issues.. I thought I was done ripping you and going to wish you luck but as you said "bring it".. Cause I gots a million come backs for the your kid got cut line...

Is it a million comebacks because you had to make up one every time it happened?

[dogeatdog1]

Is it a million comebacks because you had to make up one every time it happened?

1. I actually got the comebacks from talking to guys like you after cutting their kids.. Want another?

[HockeyDad41]

1. I actually got the comebacks from talking to guys like you after cutting their kids.. Want another?

Not like me. Kid's never been cut. Did you have to start your own team so little doggy could play?

[HockeyDad41]

insecure41,

Do you even have a player at MM or do you just like irritating people with your general ignorance. The truth is you wouldn't Ask Bernie because your would end up doing knee bends, or bending over in some other way to ensure little insecure#41 can continue to skate down at MM.

Do me a favor. You are down at MM or atleast you say you are. Ask a parent on the 99 machine team, any parent, I'm sure you haven't irritated them all yet. Ask them what happened after they won the Subway championship in Manitoba. Heck, Ask one of the kids how the locker room was after the final. Let me know what they have to tell you. If that doesn't open your eyes, there is no hope.

I just enjoy irritating people with my general ignorance.

How do I tell which ones are the 99 machine parents? Do they glow orange or something?

[EnjoyTheShow]

I just enjoy irritating people with my general ignorance.

How do I tell which ones are the 99 machine parents? Do they glow orange or something?

True, and a guy that's so aware of everything at MM should know these things. I know the parents there are generally very modest about which teams their lil ones play for, but I have a feeling you can figure it out. As I said let me know what they tell you, and then let me know if your opinion of Bernie or MM change at all.

[HockeyDad41]

True, and a guy that's so aware of everything at MM should know these things. I know the parents there are generally very modest about which teams their lil ones play for, but I have a feeling you can figure it out. As I said let me know what they tell you, and then let me know if your opinion of Bernie or MM change at all.

Apparently I am not aware of everything at MM. This blatant child abuse that you claim goes on at MM hasn't been at all obvious to me. According to the guy who eats dogs there are fleas skating around everywhere and midget parents too, but I certainly have missed seeing that as well.

I love all these baseless accusations that I am just supposed to believe because you say I should. Put up or shut up. Show me some proof!

[dogeatdog1]

Not like me. Kid's never been cut. Did you have to start your own team so little doggy could play?

2. with your ignorance in hockey I can almost guarantee you have been that dad. What year is 6'3" Johnny41? They (Meaning you)must be talkin about him in one of those best 97's or best a bantam threads..And #3. you don't get cut from the "buy on" teams at MM.. only the Machine and the B team deuce...so if he isn't on one of those teams (machine or deuce) I take it lil41 isn't all that. You want #4- a million? this is gettin fun.

and as I said I'm no longer coaching my puppies In AAA they are doing fine and I am glad you are so concerned about me and my litter.

[dogeatdog1]

True, and a guy that's so aware of everything at MM should know these things. I know the parents there are generally very modest about which teams their lil ones play for, but I have a feeling you can figure it out. As I said let me know what they tell you, and then let me know if your opinion of Bernie or MM change at all.

Apparently I am not aware of everything at MM. This blatant child abuse that you claim goes on at MM hasn't been at all obvious to me. According to the guy who eats dogs there are fleas skating around everywhere and midget parents too, but I certainly have missed seeing that as well.

I love all these baseless accusations that I am just supposed to believe because you say I should. Put up or shut up. Show me some proof!

cmon they are little people not midgets...#4 You my friend are not very politically correct are you. + I never said it was child abuse... just paid humiliation....Some parents actually eat that stuff up..sounds like you are one of them

[HockeyDad41]

2. with your ignorance in hockey I can almost guarantee you have been that dad. What year is 6'3" Johnny41? They (Meaning you)must be talkin about him in one of those best 97's or best a bantam threads..And #3. you don't get cut from the "buy on" teams at MM.. only the Machine and the B team deuce...so if he isn't on one of those teams (machine or deuce) I take it lil41 isn't all that. You want #4- a million? this is gettin fun.

and as I said I'm no longer coaching my puppies In AAA they are doing fine and I am glad you are so concerned about me and my litter.

Nope never been that dad. You must be talking from personal experience. If you don't get cut from MM "buy on" teams your check must have bounced. How'd you explain that to the little doggies? Oh that's right you started a team.

I hope you coach better than you toss insults around, otherwise you should give your players their money back.

PS - you can have the last one. This is getting boring.

[EnjoyTheShow]

True, and a guy that's so aware of everything at MM should know these things. I know the parents there are generally very modest about which teams their lil ones play for, but I have a feeling you can figure it out. As I said let me know what they tell you, and then let me know if your opinion of Bernie or MM change at all.

Apparently I am not aware of everything at MM. This blatant child abuse that you claim goes on at MM hasn't been at all obvious to me. According to the guy who eats dogs there are fleas skating around everywhere and midget parents too, but I certainly have missed seeing that as well.

I love all these baseless accusations that I am just supposed to believe because you say I should. Put up or shut up. Show me some proof!

1. I haven't to this point claimed blatant child abuse. that seems to be your words, not mine.

2. I asked you to ask parents from the 99 team what happened after they won a championship in Manitoba. A simple question. It seems to me that you would rather not have any facts. You claim to want some sort of proof of what goes on, but when given the opportunity you balk at it. If the parents have kids currently on the team, they would have no reason to lie or make false claims against your hero. Simply ask if you want to know or go away. You have the ball, it's in your court. The proof you so desperately don't want is in your place of worship.

[dogeatdog1]

Nope never been that dad. You must be talking from personal experience. If you don't get cut from MM "buy on" teams your check must have bounced. How'd you explain that to the little doggies? Oh that's right you started a team.

I hope you coach better than you toss insults around, otherwise you should give your players their money back.

PS - you can have the last one. This is getting boring.

Alrighty.. here is my last shot but man in looking at your previous 2hundred odd posts and I mean odd.. Here is my take on you and maybe if you take this with a grain of salt you can learn something...I don't consider myself an expert on AAA hockey and many people know me on this board so I don't pull punches and or hide behind a monicar on this forum. I have been around hockey for a long time both playing and coaching. I have seen a lot of kids come and go and have been fotunate enough to coach some kids that have gone on to play pro hockey and some that have gone on to great things in business. I have also seen many that have gone the other way too. I have been cut from teams and lead teams to State tourney victories.. So again take what I say for what it is worth.

Here is my fortune tellars read on you .......let me know how off base I am. Then this thread like many others you have been in can slip off the bottom of the page. 1. You Never played beyond high school hockey and I seriously doubt that you even made it to a varsity team... (I'm not bashing you just predicting from your earlier posts) This by itself isn't bad...You look for advice and spout off about all that you know...MM... Again not a bad thing on its surface but if you don't want to know the truth don't ask for advice on a subject. 3. Little Johnny41 is probably 7 or 8 at this point and you haven't ruined him yet.... Although if he is 6'3" at 7 or 8 you might have a hard time keeping the scouts away. I noticed from your other posts that he plays or played on a AAA open type team. That is good thing and have fun with it. don't let me or others that are giving you the poop on AAA programs sell you one way or another. 4. Don't get caught up in the MM or Blades or Showcase or any other trap. all have good things to offer but on the other hand don't bury your head in the sand either...And finally if your kid is good someone will give him an opportunity unless you are as your posts suggest a nutbag parent that will ruin it for him. ( I have seen that happen many times also)

one last final final.. stop using the your kid got cut line I have seen it in at least 5 of your previous posts talking about me and other posters and it lends no credibility to your rants.
Take Care Madam Dog Eat Dog 1 fortune teller extrordianirre...

[phil mccracken]

Madam Dog Eat Dog 1 fortune teller extrordianirre...

What up dog, I have a more important question for you, then where did all the MN Made teams go after 2nd year of peewee's? That is will Brett Favre be back to lead our Vikings to the Super Bowl in 2011?

thank you in advance

[Doglover]

"I just enjoy irritating people with my general ignorance."

Sorry to give this a very undeserving bump but this thread is just cracking me up! HD41's little Choice Mite is about 6 years old so if he's really 6'2 and 215 lbs he should be pretty visible at MM. If you see him, extend to him my deepest condolances for having, in his own words, a very" ignorant" father. Wish him the best though - heard Lucia has him on the radar already for the 2021 year Gopher team but first he has to actually make a Machine team.

[am that gd]

enjoy the show am just wondering how you know so much about mm why i ask is alot of your post are in refrence to there program do you have a child there or are you a hatter.

[MrBoDangles]

enjoy the show am just wondering how you know so much about mm why i ask is alot of your post are in refrence to there program do you have a child there or are you a hatter.

This must be the 6'3" 215lb little one..... Just as smart!

[dogeatdog1]

enjoy the show am just wondering how you know so much about mm why i ask is alot of your post are in refrence to there program do you have a child there or are you a hatter.

This must be the 6'3" 215lb little one..... Just as smart!

Change a name and misspell hater? You can't make this stuff up And to think I was trying to let this thread die...

[Doglover]

We all lead boring little lives that we get such amusement out of one ignorant but egocentric, know-it-all hockey dad with a 6'3" 6 year old. You really can't make this stuff up! Welcome to the board "am that gd"
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...and one major run on sentence dude! (nice attempt though HD41 and for once you actually took my advise but you should've been a bit more subtle!)