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Pylon
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Post by Pylon »

irish skater wrote:
O-townClown wrote:Hey Irish, it's 8 bucks to try out. No complaints yet!
I guess you're right, but if I was a betting man . . .

I'll just say he's not in it for his health. Don't get wrong. He shouldn't do it for free. BM does it for two reasons: Ego and money. Most of us do. The difference is, most of us don't do it on the backs of 11-year-olds. I'll take my hat off to him. He's the king. Everyone else just plays catch up.
LMAO, so your saying no one should charge a fee for providing a product or service to children! How dare piano teachers charge for teaching my daughter to play the piano, she is only 11! Gymnastics?? What, its not free to train and get instruction and participate in competitions?? Oh my, they charge there too!
I think it is great. If you don't want to be apart of it, DON"T! Let people spend their money as they see fit!
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Post by irish skater »

Pylon wrote:
irish skater wrote:
O-townClown wrote:Hey Irish, it's 8 bucks to try out. No complaints yet!
I guess you're right, but if I was a betting man . . .

I'll just say he's not in it for his health. Don't get wrong. He shouldn't do it for free. BM does it for two reasons: Ego and money. Most of us do. The difference is, most of us don't do it on the backs of 11-year-olds. I'll take my hat off to him. He's the king. Everyone else just plays catch up.
LMAO, so your saying no one should charge a fee for providing a product or service to children! How dare piano teachers charge for teaching my daughter to play the piano, she is only 11! Gymnastics?? What, its not free to train and get instruction and participate in competitions?? Oh my, they charge there too!
I think it is great. If you don't want to be apart of it, DON"T! Let people spend their money as they see fit!
Apparently you didn't read my post. Bernie doesn't remind me of my kid's piano teacher. His piano teacher isn't sponsored. Maybe she's not good enough. She doesn't form leagues to try out.

I said he shouldn't do it for free. I also said he was the king and everyone else plays catch up. Before blowing your stack, read the whole post. Now get back to work. Bernie needs the bathrooms mopped.
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irish skater wrote:
Pylon wrote:
irish skater wrote: I guess you're right, but if I was a betting man . . .

I'll just say he's not in it for his health. Don't get wrong. He shouldn't do it for free. BM does it for two reasons: Ego and money. Most of us do. The difference is, most of us don't do it on the backs of 11-year-olds. I'll take my hat off to him. He's the king. Everyone else just plays catch up.
LMAO, so your saying no one should charge a fee for providing a product or service to children! How dare piano teachers charge for teaching my daughter to play the piano, she is only 11! Gymnastics?? What, its not free to train and get instruction and participate in competitions?? Oh my, they charge there too!
I think it is great. If you don't want to be apart of it, DON"T! Let people spend their money as they see fit!
Apparently you didn't read my post. Bernie doesn't remind me of my kid's piano teacher. His piano teacher isn't sponsored. Maybe she's not good enough. She doesn't form leagues to try out.

I said he shouldn't do it for free. I also said he was the king and everyone else plays catch up. Before blowing your stack, read the whole post. Now get back to work. Bernie needs the bathrooms mopped.
So is it going to be Honeybaked, or Torspo ???
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

irish skater wrote:
Pylon wrote:
irish skater wrote: I guess you're right, but if I was a betting man . . .

I'll just say he's not in it for his health. Don't get wrong. He shouldn't do it for free. BM does it for two reasons: Ego and money. Most of us do. The difference is, most of us don't do it on the backs of 11-year-olds. I'll take my hat off to him. He's the king. Everyone else just plays catch up.
LMAO, so your saying no one should charge a fee for providing a product or service to children! How dare piano teachers charge for teaching my daughter to play the piano, she is only 11! Gymnastics?? What, its not free to train and get instruction and participate in competitions?? Oh my, they charge there too!
I think it is great. If you don't want to be apart of it, DON"T! Let people spend their money as they see fit!
Apparently you didn't read my post. Bernie doesn't remind me of my kid's piano teacher. His piano teacher isn't sponsored. Maybe she's not good enough. She doesn't form leagues to try out.

I said he shouldn't do it for free. I also said he was the king and everyone else plays catch up. Before blowing your stack, read the whole post. Now get back to work. Bernie needs the bathrooms mopped.
I read the whole post. Perhaps your compliments didn't come off as sincere. Not sure why.

lol....bathrooms mopped...... great stuff, really.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

HockeyDad41 wrote:
irish skater wrote:
Pylon wrote: LMAO, so your saying no one should charge a fee for providing a product or service to children! How dare piano teachers charge for teaching my daughter to play the piano, she is only 11! Gymnastics?? What, its not free to train and get instruction and participate in competitions?? Oh my, they charge there too!
I think it is great. If you don't want to be apart of it, DON"T! Let people spend their money as they see fit!
Apparently you didn't read my post. Bernie doesn't remind me of my kid's piano teacher. His piano teacher isn't sponsored. Maybe she's not good enough. She doesn't form leagues to try out.

I said he shouldn't do it for free. I also said he was the king and everyone else plays catch up. Before blowing your stack, read the whole post. Now get back to work. Bernie needs the bathrooms mopped.
I read the whole post. Perhaps your compliments didn't come off as sincere. Not sure why.

lol....bathrooms mopped...... great stuff, really.
So you're hd41 and pylon?????

Or are you pylon's representation?
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Post by old goalie85 »

Or maybe he could mop something else of Bernies.
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

MrBoDangles wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:
irish skater wrote: Apparently you didn't read my post. Bernie doesn't remind me of my kid's piano teacher. His piano teacher isn't sponsored. Maybe she's not good enough. She doesn't form leagues to try out.

I said he shouldn't do it for free. I also said he was the king and everyone else plays catch up. Before blowing your stack, read the whole post. Now get back to work. Bernie needs the bathrooms mopped.
I read the whole post. Perhaps your compliments didn't come off as sincere. Not sure why.

lol....bathrooms mopped...... great stuff, really.
So you're hd41 and pylon?????

Or are you pylon's representation?
You and Irish dating now? I guess chivalry is not dead in st francis.
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Post by MrBoDangles »

HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote: I read the whole post. Perhaps your compliments didn't come off as sincere. Not sure why.

lol....bathrooms mopped...... great stuff, really.
So you're hd41 and pylon?????

Or are you pylon's representation?
You and Irish dating now? I guess chivalry is not dead in st francis.
Having a nice little discussion, keeping it friendly and then this d-bag comes along...............

:D
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Post by Pylon »

most of us don't do it on the backs of 11-year-olds.
Seems to be pretty clear to me. You flat out suggested that making money off 11 year old kids is wrong. Perhaps you didn't intend it to be understood that way but that is how it comes across to me. I am all done mopping, i am going to scrub the toilets then take a nap.
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

MrBoDangles wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote: So you're hd41 and pylon?????

Or are you pylon's representation?
You and Irish dating now? I guess chivalry is not dead in st francis.
Having a nice little discussion, keeping it friendly and then this d-bag comes along...............

:D
I know, you just couldn't stay away could you? :D
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Post by MrBoDangles »

MrBoDangles wrote:
sourgrapes wrote:After reading the flyer again the only difference between any other AAA Mission statement is the desire to compete outside MN. Maybe the intent is extensive travel across US and Canada. Can't imagine what that will cost.....or maybe Walser will supplement the cost for the advertising.
Bernie has figured out that there is no way he would lose in court. :idea:

Walser will be the first Tier 1 team of it's kind in Minnesota. No need now for the Fire.

The change has begun.............. Please don't shoot the messenger.
Like I said...

Will USA Hockey enter into a no win situation?
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Post by Quasar »

MrBoDangles wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
sourgrapes wrote:After reading the flyer again the only difference between any other AAA Mission statement is the desire to compete outside MN. Maybe the intent is extensive travel across US and Canada. Can't imagine what that will cost.....or maybe Walser will supplement the cost for the advertising.
Bernie has figured out that there is no way he would lose in court. :idea:

Walser will be the first Tier 1 team of it's kind in Minnesota. No need now for the Fire.

The change has begun.............. Please don't shoot the messenger.
Like I said...

Will USA Hockey enter into a no win situation?
Dude ...When you nail it ...You nail It :D
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

MrBoDangles wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
sourgrapes wrote:After reading the flyer again the only difference between any other AAA Mission statement is the desire to compete outside MN. Maybe the intent is extensive travel across US and Canada. Can't imagine what that will cost.....or maybe Walser will supplement the cost for the advertising.
Bernie has figured out that there is no way he would lose in court. :idea:

Walser will be the first Tier 1 team of it's kind in Minnesota. No need now for the Fire.

The change has begun.............. Please don't shoot the messenger.
Like I said...

Will USA Hockey enter into a no win situation?
What if.... huge longshot I know, but, what if....we're all wrong about this Walser thing and it really isn't Tier 1 hockey? Then what? Where are the disenfranchised and underserved going to go?
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Post by Quasar »

HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote: Bernie has figured out that there is no way he would lose in court. :idea:

Walser will be the first Tier 1 team of it's kind in Minnesota. No need now for the Fire.

The change has begun.............. Please don't shoot the messenger.
Like I said...

Will USA Hockey enter into a no win situation?
What if.... huge longshot I know, but, what if....we're all wrong about this Walser thing and it really isn't Tier 1 hockey? Then what? Where are the disenfranchised and underserved going to go?
Hey ..could be.. Maybe Scrapiron is pulling our collective legs. If so
Good for him.. If not ..We'll see

I know Bernie was not happy with the way things went at the Subway this year. Could be he's just looking for commitment, However, I for one, will not discount the fact that for all practicable purposes he won a federal anti trust law suit. That means USA hockey is in the same boat as District 6. No monopolies allowed.

If I was in his place I would start a lot more than a team...
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Post by HockeyDad41 »

Quasar wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote:
MrBoDangles wrote: Like I said...

Will USA Hockey enter into a no win situation?
What if.... huge longshot I know, but, what if....we're all wrong about this Walser thing and it really isn't Tier 1 hockey? Then what? Where are the disenfranchised and underserved going to go?
Hey ..could be.. Maybe Scrapiron is pulling our collective legs. If so
Good for him.. If not ..We'll see

I know Bernie was not happy with the way things went at the Subway this year. Could be he's just looking for commitment, However, I for one, will not discount the fact that for all practicable purposes he won a federal anti trust law suit. That means USA hockey is in the same boat as District 6. No monopolies allowed.

If I was in his place I would start a lot more than a team...
Any chance you could expand on that statement?
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Post by Quasar »

HockeyDad41 wrote:
Quasar wrote:
HockeyDad41 wrote: What if.... huge longshot I know, but, what if....we're all wrong about this Walser thing and it really isn't Tier 1 hockey? Then what? Where are the disenfranchised and underserved going to go?
Hey ..could be.. Maybe Scrapiron is pulling our collective legs. If so
Good for him.. If not ..We'll see

I know Bernie was not happy with the way things went at the Subway this year. Could be he's just looking for commitment, However, I for one, will not discount the fact that for all practicable purposes he won a federal anti trust law suit. That means USA hockey is in the same boat as District 6. No monopolies allowed.

If I was in his place I would start a lot more than a team...
Any chance you could expand on that statement?
Nope ...
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Post by spin-o-rama »

Quasar wrote: However, I for one, will not discount the fact that for all practicable purposes he won a federal anti trust law suit. That means USA hockey is in the same boat as District 6. No monopolies allowed.
Bernie is looking good in the lawsuit, but it will not result in a stripping of USAh's monopoly status as a national governing body. There is nothing in the lawsuit that will force USAh or MNh to play a Bernie team.
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Post by Quasar »

spin-o-rama wrote:
Quasar wrote: However, I for one, will not discount the fact that for all practicable purposes he won a federal anti trust law suit. That means USA hockey is in the same boat as District 6. No monopolies allowed.
Bernie is looking good in the lawsuit, but it will not result in a stripping of USAh's monopoly status as a national governing body. There is nothing in the lawsuit that will force USAh or MNh to play a Bernie team.
I'm not a laywer. It's just my opinion. I do know that it is a Federal anti trust law suit. Whatever the decision is it will affect the Nation, not just Minnesota. How is the fact that you can't play with the made and district 6 any different than you can't play for The made and USA hockey ?

If the suit says district 6 cannot punish players for playing with the made, (Monopoly) Then to me it looks like USA hockey has to follow the rule set down in the Federal court.

Any Lawyers out there?
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Post by MrBoDangles »

Quasar wrote:
spin-o-rama wrote:
Quasar wrote: However, I for one, will not discount the fact that for all practicable purposes he won a federal anti trust law suit. That means USA hockey is in the same boat as District 6. No monopolies allowed.
Bernie is looking good in the lawsuit, but it will not result in a stripping of USAh's monopoly status as a national governing body. There is nothing in the lawsuit that will force USAh or MNh to play a Bernie team.
I'm not a laywer. It's just my opinion. I do know that it is a Federal anti trust law suit. Whatever the decision is it will affect the Nation, not just Minnesota. How is the fact that you can't play with the made and district 6 any different than you can't play for The made and USA hockey ?

If the suit says district 6 cannot punish players for playing with the made, (Monopoly) Then to me it looks like USA hockey has to follow the rule set down in the Federal court.

Any Lawyers out there?
Bernie's legal team knows that USA Hockey would't be dumb enough after the D6 fiasco. It opened the floodgates and there's no return'

Look for them to grant status or be on the national news for backing a totalitarian governing body.

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Post by O-townClown »

I will fly up to catch the inagural Car Wars event with Walser Automotive Group versus Victory Honda at every age group.

First program to win three games gets the Bronzed Tire, as well as the opportunity for their salesmen to tout the dealership's involvement in the community.
Be kind. Rewind.
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O-townClown wrote:I will fly up to catch the inagural Car Wars event with Walser Automotive Group versus Victory Honda at every age group.

First program to win three games gets the Bronzed Tire, as well as the opportunity for their salesmen to tout the dealership's involvement in the community.
Car wars? I like it..... especially the "Bronzed Tire" award

Bo and I will meet you when you fly up. Be sure to wear your clown suit so we can recognize you. :D
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No Political Connections wrote:
O-townClown wrote:I will fly up to catch the inagural Car Wars event with Walser Automotive Group versus Victory Honda at every age group.

First program to win three games gets the Bronzed Tire, as well as the opportunity for their salesmen to tout the dealership's involvement in the community.
Get Belle Tire to sponsor the trophy and Little Ceasars to provide pizza and we will have a party.
It's getting better by the moment !!
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Post by O-townClown »

Honeybaked Ham trumps that cruddy pizza any day. And if you haven't tried it, they somehow make their turkey taste like ham. (Big for me considering I don't usually care for turkey.)
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O-townClown wrote:Honeybaked Ham trumps that cruddy pizza any day. And if you haven't tried it, they somehow make their turkey taste like ham. (Big for me considering I don't usually care for turkey.)
See... I didn't know that!!
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