54's 17's and 16's

[leftwing]

I'd like to add that "joehockey's" post on college recruiting from the 2010 thread was probably *the* single most interesting and useful post I've ever read on either this forum or on USCHO. Joehockey - would love to see you dig it out and repost for new(er) parents. While my D isn't a goalie, I particularly remember your comment about goalies and goalie parents. Might give some folks perspective....

[OnTheBench]

There is a list of 31 kids on another thread.
How did they fall as 15's, 16's, 17's?
Don't have to name names; just an aggregate would be fine.

It looks to me that there are now 34 D-1 commits from Minnesota for this fall.
Of those I can identify 10 that made the National Camp all 3 years, 8 that I think went twice (5 @ 16,17; 2 @ 15,16; 1 @ 15,17), 7 that I can only identify as attending once (3 @ 15, 3 @ 16, 1 @ 17), and 9 that appear to have not gone to any.

On the flip side, I have not found any young women in the class of 2013 that attended at least one national camp that have not made a D-1 commitment. I'm pretty confident that this is true for the 16s and 17s camps but not so sure about the 15s (rosters in the old threads were posted as links to web pages that no longer exist).

[joehockey]

I'd like to add that "joehockey's" post on college recruiting from the 2010 thread was probably *the* single most interesting and useful post I've ever read on either this forum or on USCHO. Joehockey - would love to see you dig it out and repost for new(er) parents. While my D isn't a goalie, I particularly remember your comment about goalies and goalie parents. Might give some folks perspective....

Thanks not sure I remember what I said? I just updated the MN HS Class of 2010 which was 37 players at D1 after 3 seasons. Hard to believe they only have one left. http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic. ... 883#629883

Results from USHOC after Year 3: 27 of 37 still in D1 Hockey - 73%
Class of 2010 - 37 Minnesota Girls out of 176 commitments to D1 - 9 schools had no MN Recruits.

Only 2 of 4 Goalies from the class are at D1. Kallie Billadeau, G, (Hopkins), Minnetonka, MN is only one in starting role. She was one of the best in the country this past season statistically.

I think this shows players and parents (I think this was a great group of players in HS and highly pursued) a few items that I have listed if you want to pursue D1.

1) Pick a school for your major - you may not play or you may get injured

2) After you pick the schools you want to go to study their roster - you need to fill the shopping list the school needs. My daughter was a "Big LH D who was a D player". Schools looking for "an offensive attacking RH D" were not interested. Market to the school you want who has a need for your skills set.

3) MN has 10 MS Goalie Candidates each year 2-3 may get a chance to play D1 and one may become a starter. This is a role where you have to play top competition so D1 programs see you outside of MN. Kallie Billadeau took Hopkins to State Championship but only Syracuse really pursued and ultimately signed - they made a great choice. She was a standout at NAHA Tournament before her Sr Year.

4) Eastern Schools are now welcoming MN players (ex - Providence will have 13 from MN for 2013-14). It is hard to earn a full scholarship most players start on a partial. Ask direct questions of coaches. The move to earlier signing dates is partially driven by coaches saying "I need 2 D and have 7 similar prospects, first to commit will be here".

5) WCHA, Hockey East, CHA offer scholarships. The ECAC is mixed. The Ivy League Schools offer financial assistance based on a students need. You may have to work a student job 10 hours/week on top of school and hockey.

6) Look at schedule of play WCHA is 2 game series on weekends. Hockey East plays many one game series to limit nights on the road away from the dorm. ECAC has many mid week games. Look at schools travel approach and ask questions - where does team stay what do they eat.

7) Holiday Season - expect your player to be home only a short time for Christmas. Ask about the schedule so you understand.

Good luck to all!

[Bighead]

How is it possible that MN only had 1 goalie invite at the 16 level??? Anybody have an explanation?

[royals dad]

How is it possible that MN only had 1 goalie invite at the 16 level??? Anybody have an explanation?

Certainly goes against what we have seen in the past. Would seem to indicate that there is an unussualy strong class outside of Minnesota but I have to admit there are a couple who I am surprised didn't make it as they had strong HS seasons and looked good in the 54 weekend games that I saw them. Never easy for goalies to take a hit to their confidence but hope it pushes them to keep working hard and come back even stronger next year

[Coachk]

Maybe because the level of play in Tier 1 and East coast prep schools is better preparing those goalies for D1 play.

[ERhockeydad]

Which goalie from MN made the final cut? MRooney?

[ERhockeydad]

Is it known who made it from the 17s for goalie?

[Knight7]

Goalies for the 17's

Hannah Eshermann- Minnetonka

Erin O'Neil- Hopkins

[royals dad]

Maybe because the level of play in Tier 1 and East coast prep schools is better preparing those goalies for D1 play.

The truth is that there are just not that many jobs for goalies each year. Like any 18 year old it is a crapshoot for coaches as to which player will develop at the college level. To add to that you have most of the WCHA teams going with goalies that are a little bit older and from another country. Minnesota HS grads largely have the option of heading east or staying local for D3. Between Os stuff, Whitecaps/Ice Cats, HS Elite, and HS the old argument that they don't get enough high level competition is going away. I would argue after watching the group since they were U10s that the class of 2014 is the strongest class of goalies MN ever produced and if given the opportunity could have 5 or 6 D1 starters 5 years from now.

From JoeHockey on another forum (we are still ahead of other states, although we could do better):

Top 27 Goalies on GAA - Count by State/Prov
US
MN 3
WI 2
NY 2
MA 2
NH 1
CA 1
IL 1
PA 1
MD 1

Canada
ON 5
QB 2
AB 1
NS 1
BC 1


INTL
Finland 1