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2boys1girl
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Post by 2boys1girl »

Gotothenetman wrote:Best team the Poehlings and Enbeks can buy. Kind of neat to win a title with the kids you grew up with vs. the recruits that came in. Great memories playing with kids for a year or so just to get a blue ribbon.
This is HILARIOUS!

Question #1: Has Reed Smith moved yet? Or what loophole will North find?

Questions #2: Has Ryan Enquist parents moved to the North side yet, Or has he found out yet if MSHSL will waive the 1 year rule. Did North find a loophole.
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"If North is put into the debate of best ever "at least leading into the season" than I must wonder where you place the team returning many of their key players that just beat this "best ever" squad 8-2"


It's July..the only person that gives a crud about that 8-2 score is YOU...nobody from Lakevill North left that game and even thought about it an hour later...nor with they..it's a summer scrimmage...that's it
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Post by Bluelightspecial »

I thought Edquist's family lived in the north school district, therefor there is no 1 year waiting period?
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Tenoverpar wrote:nobody from Lakevill North left that game and even thought about it an hour later
Ya no one on the team will ever think of losing in the state championship ever again. Okay.
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Tenoverpar wrote:"If North is put into the debate of best ever "at least leading into the season" than I must wonder where you place the team returning many of their key players that just beat this "best ever" squad 8-2"


It's July..the only person that gives a crud about that 8-2 score is YOU...nobody from Lakevill North left that game and even thought about it an hour later...nor with they..it's a summer scrimmage...that's it
summer scrimmage? Im talking about the state championship game bucko
2boys1girl
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Post by 2boys1girl »

Bluelightspecial wrote:I thought Edquist's family lived in the north school district, therefor there is no 1 year waiting period?
His parents live in the South H.S. boundary. So I wonder how this will get figured out. I'm sure it will some how.

I'm still trying to figure out why he would leave SSM where he would be on the Prep team next to come play 1 year at Lakeville N.
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Post by Bluelightspecial »

Sounds like a mess in the making!
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Post by WestMetro »

Green4, any more info on Edina goalie Boe situation? Has he been skating with team in scrimmages?
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Post by keepyourheadup »

Lakeville has an open enrollment policy intradistrict, since Edquist has not been part of an MSHSL school I'd assume he's free to enroll almost anywhere he wants. Hell, south is just a feeder program for north anyway isn't it? Got to believe there are some north parents less than pleased that their sons chance to play high school hockey gets diminished almost monthly.
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Post by Defensive Zone »

2boys1girl wrote:
Gotothenetman wrote:Best team the Poehlings and Enbeks can buy. Kind of neat to win a title with the kids you grew up with vs. the recruits that came in. Great memories playing with kids for a year or so just to get a blue ribbon.
This is HILARIOUS!

Question #1: Has Reed Smith moved yet? Or what loophole will North find?

Questions #2: Has Ryan Enquist parents moved to the North side yet, Or has he found out yet if MSHSL will waive the 1 year rule. Did North find a loophole.
What's really hilarious...NOT is the next underclassmen who was supposed to move up into a varsity forward position or the second string goalie who was planning on starting next season. Well that's not going to happen. I feel bad for these two kids!
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Post by 2boys1girl »

keepyourheadup wrote:Lakeville has an open enrollment policy intradistrict, since Edquist has not been part of an MSHSL school I'd assume he's free to enroll almost anywhere he wants. Hell, south is just a feeder program for north anyway isn't it? Got to believe there are some north parents less than pleased that their sons chance to play high school hockey gets diminished almost monthly.
False. Kids in lakeville can not freely just change schools with out it being a transfer. SSM is a Minnesota HS. So it would be a transfer.
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Post by Bluelightspecial »

I've read it a few times, and that's how I interpret it also! None the less I am interested to see how the state league handles this, especially after last years meltdown on the girls side.
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Post by keepyourheadup »

If that's the case how do you explain Enebek's presence at North? As long as a lakeville student makes the change as a ninth grader they can attend either school. I've been a member of the community for over ten years and not once have I heard of anyone being denied the choice.

SSM is NOT part of the MSHSL and thus rules pertaining to athletic eligibility do not apply. I'm fairly certain if you look further into you'll find that Edquist can pretty much play wherever he wants. Smith on the other hand attended South as a ninth grader so his only avenue to north is via a change in residence, that is if everyone is playing by the rules.
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Post by keepyourheadup »

Furthermore its my understanding that lakeville students can change schools most anytime even after their freshmen year, their athletic eligibility is determined outside of the districts authority and the result would be the one year penalty at the varsity level.
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Post by Bluelightspecial »

A transfer student is one who discontinues enrollment and attendance in any high school, public or non-public, located in a public school district attendance area and enrolls and attends classes in any high school in Minnesota, or outside of MN. Essentially, a transfer occurs anytime the school of record changes.
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Post by keepyourheadup »

It was my understanding that SSM was outside the boundaries of the MSHSL, I guess they'll just have to play the hardship card.
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Tenoverpar wrote:Lakeville North team may go down in the "best ever" debate..at least leading into the season
I'm assuming that 10over is referring to the best Lakeville North team of all time. Anything beyond that would be delusional at best.
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Post by BP »

You can transfer out SSM and back to a HS, public or private, and be eligible. A graduating senior from Hill-Murray did it this year and played his junior and senior year with no penalty (after being at Shattuck as a 10th grader). No hardship, etc.

And I'm pretty sure the families aren't rolling the dice and hoping their kids are eligible. I'm quite certain they've been cleared by the school, otherwise they wouldn't be doing it, especially the goalie leaving SSM.....he wouldn't transfer and play JV. So, this is a non-issue.
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Post by keepyourheadup »

Thanks BP, that's the way I understood it as well.
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Post by Wildcathcky »

BP wrote:You can transfer out SSM and back to a HS, public or private, and be eligible. A graduating senior from Hill-Murray did it this year and played his junior and senior year with no penalty (after being at Shattuck as a 10th grader). No hardship, etc..
The HM kid had a change of residence (at least on paper) prior to his junior year.
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Post by BP »

Wildcathcky wrote:
BP wrote:You can transfer out SSM and back to a HS, public or private, and be eligible. A graduating senior from Hill-Murray did it this year and played his junior and senior year with no penalty (after being at Shattuck as a 10th grader). No hardship, etc..
The HM kid had a change of residence (at least on paper) prior to his junior year.

You may be right......My point in my response is I'm sure both kids are clear and they wouldn't just come and roll the dice.
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Post by WestMetro »

Setting the 2013-14 season and transfer rules aside, and looking forward to the matchup of LVN vs Edina for 2014-2015......

Would it be fair to say:

o LVN will have a goalie advantage in Edquist compared to either Boe or Enriquez

o LVN has a first pair Dmen advantage in McNeeley and Sadek, both NHL initial draftwatch list

o First line talent about even (others thoughts on this?)

o Edina has more depth after first sets, in all positions.

o Edina coaching and mystique advantage

Net advantage: Edina.

Will they meet in the regular season or December tourneys this year?

LVN looks to be certain 1AA repeat and Edina 2AA repeat, so odds on favorites to meet in state tourney finals again, with Edina likely to repeat,
although anything could happen if Edquist steps up for a big game.
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Post by Sats81 »

WestMetro wrote:Setting the 2013-14 season and transfer rules aside, and looking forward to the matchup of LVN vs Edina for 2014-2015......

Would it be fair to say:

o LVN will have a goalie advantage in Edquist compared to either Boe or Enriquez

o LVN has a first pair Dmen advantage in McNeeley and Sadek, both NHL initial draftwatch list

o First line talent about even (others thoughts on this?)

o Edina has more depth after first sets, in all positions.

o Edina coaching and mystique advantage

Net advantage: Edina.

Will they meet in the regular season or December tourneys this year?

LVN looks to be certain 1AA repeat and Edina 2AA repeat, so odds on favorites to meet in state tourney finals again, with Edina likely to repeat,
although anything could happen if Edquist steps up for a big game.
THink this is a pretty fair assessment. Sadek and McNeely didn't always play together though. I think Zuhlsdorf is a better d-man than Sadek too.

I still think with Edina, everyone else is simply playing for 2nd, including LN.
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Post by nahc »

Some veyr strong traditionals powers will have a lot to say about whether or not Lakeville North and Edina even get to meet in the finals..... Lake Conference, South Suburban Conference, Duluth East, Elk River, White Bear Lake, Moorehead, Grand Rapids, St. Thomas, Benilde, Blaine and others.......... should be another great year!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Defensive Zone »

WestMetro wrote:Setting the 2013-14 season and transfer rules aside, and looking forward to the matchup of LVN vs Edina for 2014-2015......

Would it be fair to say:

o LVN will have a goalie advantage in Edquist compared to either Boe or Enriquez

o LVN has a first pair Dmen advantage in McNeeley and Sadek, both NHL initial draftwatch list

o First line talent about even (others thoughts on this?)

o Edina has more depth after first sets, in all positions.

o Edina coaching and mystique advantage

Net advantage: Edina.

Will they meet in the regular season or December tourneys this year?

LVN looks to be certain 1AA repeat and Edina 2AA repeat, so odds on favorites to meet in state tourney finals again, with Edina likely to repeat,
although anything could happen if Edquist steps up for a big game.
Both are set to play as of now on Dec. 4th at Ames. 7:00 PM. Should be good.
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