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Post by rainier »

thestickler07 wrote:And by your lack of response to the more salient points of Hermantown's situation I take it they are your favorite wealthy suburb team?
Several posters from Hermantown have repeatedly posted that Hermantown stopped taking open enrolled students several years ago. Yet their youth teams are still doing great without this supposed influx of talent from the rest of Duluth. And East, Marshall, and even Denfeld are doing just fine as Hermantown has risen to prominence, so, clearly Hermantown is not fleecing the Twin Ports of all their hockey talent. I'm willing to bet STA's rise to prominence has coincided with the formation of some "hockey deserts" in the surrounding cities.

So what if they are a "wealthy" suburb? That doesn't change the fact that it is a town of 9,000 people whose school doesn't allow open enrollment. I guess a kid from Virginia moved to Hermantown as a bantam. Wow! One whole player from a single A community transferred there, that surely puts them on par with STA who get all their players from multiple AA sized schools and even other states.

You better hope the mercenary transfer-fest mindset that exists in the metro area doesn't make its way north and take full effect, because no team south of Duluth might ever win a title again. Grand Rapids already puts out top 10 AA squads almost every year, and if the best 6-7 players from Hibbing, Virginia, and Greenway transfer there each year it will be the Halloween Machine heyday all over again. Same goes if all the best kids in the Duluth area pick one school to go to; think STA would have beaten an East-Hermantown all-star squad? Same if Roseau, Warroad, EGF, and TRF combine. Same if Fergus and Alex kids start transferring to Moorhead every year. You should be happy that a high degree of loyalty and community pride still exist up north, it gives your team a chance.

Did you notice Team North won the Elite League this year and took second last year? There is a ton of talent coming from a total population much smaller than the metro.

During the playoffs next season, you may be confused as to why STA's opponents all of a sudden have really good 2nd and 3rd lines and a good 2nd pair of defensemen also. It's because you will be playing AA teams, Stickles. Good luck!
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Post by thestickler07 »

Ahhh someone didn't like looking like a rube for gobbling Scroggins' article hahaha. I'm sure you would volunteer to be president of the Bruce Plante fan club too. He's a smart guy, compelling speaker, and a good coach. You don't even know when you are being chumped, it's really too much! :lol:

Thanks for finally coming back to reality with the rest of us and acknowledging that Hermantown is an affluent suburb in a "AA sized population area" (your words not mine). They have open enrollment, it's state law. There is nothing more to say about it, this is a fact.

Funny you left out Proctor, who I'm sure loved getting beaten 21-0 combined in 2 meetings with Hermantown this year. Definitely competitive balance up north in the Twin Ports huh?
:roll:

And I'm not tripping about Plante making an all-star northern team, he's much to self righteous for that. 8)
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Post by rainier »

thestickler07 wrote:Ahhh someone didn't like looking like a rube for gobbling Scroggins' article hahaha. I'm sure you would volunteer to be president of the Bruce Plante fan club too. He's a smart guy, compelling speaker, and a good coach. You don't even know when you are being chumped, it's really too much! :lol:

And you didn't gobble the Powers article? You're calling the kettle black again, Pot. You keep handing me argument winning information and continue to rip me for doing things you do yourself. You must have the attention span of a housefly with ADHD. Oh, and you never did tell me if Lou Nanne is also a "whiner".

Thanks for finally coming back to reality with the rest of us and acknowledging that Hermantown is an affluent suburb in a "AA sized population area" (your words not mine). They have open enrollment, it's state law. There is nothing more to say about it, this is a fact.

People that actually live in Hermantown have repeatedly said Hermantown is closed to open enrollment. The school is full, Einstein. And if Hermantown is gathering all the best talent from the Duluth area, as you claim, then why are East, Marshall, and Denfeld all as good as they are? Sorry buddy, but your argument there is as empty as STA's trophies.

Funny you left out Proctor, who I'm sure loved getting beaten 21-0 combined in 2 meetings with Hermantown this year. Definitely competitive balance up north in the Twin Ports huh?
:roll:

Proctor? Really? Proctor is not and never has been a top hockey school. And Proctor's best player did transfer this season-to Duluth Marshall. Why didn't he go to Hermantown, you ask? Because Hermantown doesn't allow open enrollment. There you go again providing me with more ammo. The more you write, the less work I need to do to make you look like someone whose parents paid extra cash to make sure you got enough D's to graduate high school.

And I'm not tripping about Plante making an all-star northern team, he's much to self righteous for that. 8)

Maybe when the next Vannelli egg hatches that offspring can slither up north and bring the "sportsmanship is for suckers" mentality to the Duluth area schools after Bruce has retired. Hopefully Marshall will be the school of choice, so then the team can sail to multiple A titles with 10 Elite League players per year on the roster. That seems to be the STA formula for "success".
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Post by east hockey »

In the second post on this topic, Karl stated:
Normal board rules and standards for civility still apply, but, as always, some healthy banter and back-and-forth is encouraged.
Board rules are here, and some need a refresher:

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1

Personal attacks (and there have been plenty on both sides) will not be allowed on this thread starting now. If they continue, the topic will be locked and those responsible for the topic being locked will be banned.

Simple enough.

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Post by rainier »

east hockey wrote:In the second post on this topic, Karl stated:
Normal board rules and standards for civility still apply, but, as always, some healthy banter and back-and-forth is encouraged.
Board rules are here, and some need a refresher:

http://www.ushsho.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1

Personal attacks (and there have been plenty on both sides) will not be allowed on this thread starting now. If they continue, the topic will be locked and those responsible for the topic being locked will be banned.

Simple enough.

Lee
Okay, I was just giving it back to Stickles for his ripping of Plante. No more personal attacks from me.
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Post by Napalm187 »

By the way, I've attended every state tournament for the last 25 years and this was the worst ever for attendance in my opinion. They can cook the books to make the numbers look however they want, but there were great seats to be had everywhere.

Please allow kids to pursue more avenues than the fabled HS hockey tourney. It's a joke.
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Post by thestickler07 »

Napalm187 wrote:It took you 27 pages since to enforce the rules? This should've been locked long ago. Shows the bias towards private schools, even by this sites admins. Tons of things on this board get locked for far less, and this has been allowed to go on for this long?
:roll:

This thread is a wrap. Nothing more needs to be said, the boy's play did all the talking. 8)
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Post by rainier »

Napalm187 wrote:It took you 27 pages since to enforce the rules? This should've been locked long ago. Shows the bias towards private schools, even by this sites admins. Tons of things on this board get locked for far less, and this has been allowed to go on for this long?
I have seen no swearing or threats, and the attacks have been mostly benign insults we posters have flung at each other, so I'd say it's been civil enough. I admit my Vannelli comment was over the line, as were comments others made about Bruce Plante.

No more personal attacks from this whiner.
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Post by thorhockey »

Personal attacks (and there have been plenty on both sides) will not be allowed on this thread starting now. If they continue, the topic will be locked and those responsible for the topic being locked will be banned.
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Sorry Mr. Moderator sir.
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Post by basconi »

So I'm somewhere between Hermantown and the twin cities. Who would I select as best coach in the tournament. No brainer really. I'm going with the guy who gets the most out of his teams year after year. Has great success at the state tournament and does it with out having an all-star team recruited nationwide. As the press states his players parents all have the same zip-code. How great is that for Mn. H.S. hockey. Hats off to Bruce Plant.
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Post by dwvandy »

Does no one remember what made the Minnesota Boys State Hockey Tournament so alluring?
It was one community raised and developed team vs. the others. School, team and community pride vs. the others. 20 guys growing up together, playing together, developing together, and dreaming of playing in the state tournament with their life long friends. It was not intended to be a forum for all star teams, pulled together from a wide sweeping geographic area, who's players, at one point simply got into Mom and Dad's Volvo, headed over to STA, shook hands with the other 19 guys, and went about beating small community school teams 12-1 and 11-0 before smirkingly going into rope-a dope mode.... Truly shameful, and truly insulting to what the two class tourney was intended for. Anyone who does not understand this concept is simply in denial. I applaud Plante for not tap dancing around the issue like almost everyone else. To mentions STA's "3 peat" with those of Eveleth (4), International Falls and Bloomington Jefferson is blasphemy....an aberration...... My remedy? All privates play at the AA level come tournament time, and come tournament time, they are all seeded in their own section... with one team advancing to the State Tournament. This will make kids think twice before leaving their geographic HS boundary to play.... And no, I do not buy the argument that they players are there for the "education"...Sadly, this is becomming a hockey business.
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Post by SquirtC'00 »

So, I guess if you're Catholic and your parents want (make) you to attend Catholic school so you get to practice your faith daily, you shouldn't be allowed to play hockey? It's God or the puck, right? Only public school kids should be allowed to play? If your Parrish elementary school is in the neighboringing town, you cannot play hockey THERE with your school buds, oh wait MN Hockey says you can. Never mind that there are no "neighborhood buds" your age for several blocks anyway. And never mind that associations will dog you because you're one of those "private school" kids, so we won't bother developing you. And one-third of the STA boys receive financial aid and that doesn't mean 200 hockey players Yea, those Catholic kids get all the breaks...
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Post by Froggy Richards »

Rainier Said:

Proctor? Really? Proctor is not and never has been a top hockey school. And Proctor's best player did transfer this season-to Duluth Marshall. Why didn't he go to Hermantown, you ask? Because Hermantown doesn't allow open enrollment. There you go again providing me with more ammo. The more you write, the less work I need to do to make you look like someone whose parents paid extra cash to make sure you got enough D's to graduate high school.

Below is from D-Man on a different thread. This is the current count of Proctor and Duluth kids playing for Hermantown at just the Bantam Level. So that could have something to do with Proctor being down.

My unofficial count is Proctor: 3 H'Town AA's, 2 A's, and 2 B's. There's also 4 A's and 1 B from Duluth and 2 kids that I don't know where they live. This is Bantams only.

Three AA's and 2 A's from Proctor??? That's enough to kill any program and explains why they only have a B team this year. The program is changing in Proctor, however. I suspect/hope that we will see a lot more kids stay in the future.
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SquirtC'00 wrote:So, I guess if you're Catholic and your parents want (make) you to attend Catholic school so you get to practice your faith daily, you shouldn't be allowed to play hockey? It's God or the puck, right? Only public school kids should be allowed to play? If your Parrish elementary school is in the neighboringing town, you cannot play hockey THERE with your school buds, oh wait MN Hockey says you can. Never mind that there are no "neighborhood buds" your age for several blocks anyway. And never mind that associations will dog you because you're one of those "private school" kids, so we won't bother developing you. And one-third of the STA boys receive financial aid and that doesn't mean 200 hockey players Yea, those Catholic kids get all the breaks...
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SquirtC'00 wrote:So, I guess if you're Catholic and your parents want (make) you to attend Catholic school so you get to practice your faith daily, you shouldn't be allowed to play hockey? It's God or the puck, right? Only public school kids should be allowed to play? If your Parrish elementary school is in the neighboringing town, you cannot play hockey THERE with your school buds, oh wait MN Hockey says you can. Never mind that there are no "neighborhood buds" your age for several blocks anyway. And never mind that associations will dog you because you're one of those "private school" kids, so we won't bother developing you. And one-third of the STA boys receive financial aid and that doesn't mean 200 hockey players Yea, those Catholic kids get all the breaks...
Yeah, cuz all the private school players are catholic =D>
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Post by Bonehead »

SquirtC'00 wrote:So, I guess if you're Catholic and your parents want (make) you to attend Catholic school so you get to practice your faith daily, you shouldn't be allowed to play hockey? It's God or the puck, right? Only public school kids should be allowed to play? If your Parrish elementary school is in the neighboringing town, you cannot play hockey THERE with your school buds, oh wait MN Hockey says you can. Never mind that there are no "neighborhood buds" your age for several blocks anyway. And never mind that associations will dog you because you're one of those "private school" kids, so we won't bother developing you. And one-third of the STA boys receive financial aid and that doesn't mean 200 hockey players Yea, those Catholic kids get all the breaks...
Last time I checked they don't ask your religious affiliation when you sign up - just your address.
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Post by Northhcky »

Froggy Richards wrote:Rainier Said:

Proctor? Really? Proctor is not and never has been a top hockey school. And Proctor's best player did transfer this season-to Duluth Marshall. Why didn't he go to Hermantown, you ask? Because Hermantown doesn't allow open enrollment. There you go again providing me with more ammo. The more you write, the less work I need to do to make you look like someone whose parents paid extra cash to make sure you got enough D's to graduate high school.

Below is from D-Man on a different thread. This is the current count of Proctor and Duluth kids playing for Hermantown at just the Bantam Level. So that could have something to do with Proctor being down.

My unofficial count is Proctor: 3 H'Town AA's, 2 A's, and 2 B's. There's also 4 A's and 1 B from Duluth and 2 kids that I don't know where they live. This is Bantams only.

Three AA's and 2 A's from Proctor??? That's enough to kill any program and explains why they only have a B team this year. The program is changing in Proctor, however. I suspect/hope that we will see a lot more kids stay in the future.
You fail to say if these kids are just playing youth hockey at Hermantown because Proctor doesn't have a A team or were they enrolled at Hermantown when there was open enrollment in the lower grades. There is a difference. If they are not enrolled at Hermantown they will not be playing HS hockey there.
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Post by stpaul »

dwvandy wrote:Does no one remember what made the Minnesota Boys State Hockey Tournament so alluring?
It was one community raised and developed team vs. the others. School, team and community pride vs. the others. 20 guys growing up together, playing together, developing together, and dreaming of playing in the state tournament with their life long friends. It was not intended to be a forum for all star teams, pulled together from a wide sweeping geographic area, who's players, at one point simply got into Mom and Dad's Volvo, headed over to STA, shook hands with the other 19 guys, and went about beating small community school teams 12-1 and 11-0 before smirkingly going into rope-a dope mode.... Truly shameful, and truly insulting to what the two class tourney was intended for. Anyone who does not understand this concept is simply in denial. I applaud Plante for not tap dancing around the issue like almost everyone else. To mentions STA's "3 peat" with those of Eveleth (4), International Falls and Bloomington Jefferson is blasphemy....an aberration...... My remedy? All privates play at the AA level come tournament time, and come tournament time, they are all seeded in their own section... with one team advancing to the State Tournament. This will make kids think twice before leaving their geographic HS boundary to play.... And no, I do not buy the argument that they players are there for the "education"...Sadly, this is becomming a hockey business.
Do Eden Prairie, Wayzata and all the other 3,000 student mega-schools get to play in your Tournament? They don't seem to fit in your little Pleasantville dream world. It's unlikely EP has "20 guys growing up together, playing together, developing together, and dreaming of playing in the state tournament with their life long friends". Your life long friend is more likely to be one of the 100 Bantams that have no chance of ever making the HS team. Those 20 AA kids that do have a chance are very gifted and have led year round, very expensive hockey lives. Just like those private school kids that are wrecking your tournament.
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Post by dwvandy »

stpaul wrote:
dwvandy wrote:Does no one remember what made the Minnesota Boys State Hockey Tournament so alluring?
It was one community raised and developed team vs. the others. School, team and community pride vs. the others. 20 guys growing up together, playing together, developing together, and dreaming of playing in the state tournament with their life long friends. It was not intended to be a forum for all star teams, pulled together from a wide sweeping geographic area, who's players, at one point simply got into Mom and Dad's Volvo, headed over to STA, shook hands with the other 19 guys, and went about beating small community school teams 12-1 and 11-0 before smirkingly going into rope-a dope mode.... Truly shameful, and truly insulting to what the two class tourney was intended for. Anyone who does not understand this concept is simply in denial. I applaud Plante for not tap dancing around the issue like almost everyone else. To mentions STA's "3 peat" with those of Eveleth (4), International Falls and Bloomington Jefferson is blasphemy....an aberration...... My remedy? All privates play at the AA level come tournament time, and come tournament time, they are all seeded in their own section... with one team advancing to the State Tournament. This will make kids think twice before leaving their geographic HS boundary to play.... And no, I do not buy the argument that they players are there for the "education"...Sadly, this is becomming a hockey business.
Do Eden Prairie, Wayzata and all the other 3,000 student mega-schools get to play in your Tournament? They don't seem to fit in your little Pleasantville dream world. It's unlikely EP has "20 guys growing up together, playing together, developing together, and dreaming of playing in the state tournament with their life long friends". Your life long friend is more likely to be one of the 100 Bantams that have no chance of ever making the HS team. Those 20 AA kids that do have a chance are very gifted and have led year round, very expensive hockey lives. Just like those private school kids that are wrecking your tournament.

Was stating my opinion on what MADE the tournament one of the greatest HS athletic events in the country, and I'm sure many agree....

The crux of the ongoing argument in this thread is clearly directed to the current problems with the class A tournament...

The mega schools are clearly tagged for AA....as should the privates. The smaller schools without the numbers and without the clearly evident recruiting mentality were given consideration with the implementation of the two class system and can compete for the single A title.....

In addition, not every small town youth hockey player cracks the varsity lineup at their school either.... you dream, and you try. If you can't be an athlete, be an athletic supporter.
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SquirtC'00 wrote:So, I guess if you're Catholic and your parents want (make) you to attend Catholic school so you get to practice your faith daily, you shouldn't be allowed to play hockey? It's God or the puck, right? Only public school kids should be allowed to play? If your Parrish elementary school is in the neighboringing town, you cannot play hockey THERE with your school buds, oh wait MN Hockey says you can. Never mind that there are no "neighborhood buds" your age for several blocks anyway. And never mind that associations will dog you because you're one of those "private school" kids, so we won't bother developing you. And one-third of the STA boys receive financial aid and that doesn't mean 200 hockey players Yea, those Catholic kids get all the breaks...
Funny you should write this. Putting all the private schools in the same section would definitely show what comes first. Something tells me God would take a back seat and more kids would stay at the public school. Besides, the school you go to shouldn't determine if you practice your faith daily.
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Post by rainier »

Mite-dad wrote:
SquirtC'00 wrote:So, I guess if you're Catholic and your parents want (make) you to attend Catholic school so you get to practice your faith daily, you shouldn't be allowed to play hockey? It's God or the puck, right? Only public school kids should be allowed to play? If your Parrish elementary school is in the neighboringing town, you cannot play hockey THERE with your school buds, oh wait MN Hockey says you can. Never mind that there are no "neighborhood buds" your age for several blocks anyway. And never mind that associations will dog you because you're one of those "private school" kids, so we won't bother developing you. And one-third of the STA boys receive financial aid and that doesn't mean 200 hockey players Yea, those Catholic kids get all the breaks...
Funny you should write this. Putting all the private schools in the same section would definitely show what comes first. Something tells me God would take a back seat and more kids would stay at the public school. Besides, the school you go to shouldn't determine if you practice your faith daily.
I think having an all-private section is an outstanding idea. They already all play each other every season so the schedules wouldn't even need to be changed much. Private schools have set up their own educational systems that differ from that of public schools, so it would only be natural for them to have to go by a different athletic system than the public schools. A section with Hill, BSM, STA, and Breck would provide great section playoffs and would always send a top team to state.

I read somewhere that in Missouri private schools must play one level up from where their enrollment would place them. This is also a great idea.

As for Hermantown opting up to AA, I fully expect them to in two years. But the question is: Will they open up their team to transfers? They have a great program and a great coach, so they would certainly be attractive to local talent.

If the Hawks are in AA, they should also do everything that gives them the best chance to win, just as you find at other top AA schools. This includes allowing transfers from anywhere at anytime (even other states) and actively seeking out top talent from other youth associations. Perhaps Plante may not go for this, but I bet the next Hermantown coach will have no choice but to go "full AA" on it. Being the only other AA school in the Duluth area would probably give them an additional boost as far as attracting players.

Hermantown tried to do Class A by the book, but was outgunned by metro privates and called whiners when they pointed out the obvious. If they go to AA, they might as well go whole hog and leave everything Class A behind them. Hermantown is already a top 10 AA team, so if they can add an extra 5 or so top players each year, they will find it is easier to win AA titles than it was to win A titles.

When in Rome...
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Post by stpaul »

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I read somewhere that in Missouri private schools must play one level up from where their enrollment would place them. This is also a great idea.
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Missouri has what they call a multiplier. Private schools enrollment numbers are multiplied by 1.35. That number then determines what class they play in. In Illinois it is 1.66. If Minnesota had that kind of system for hockey it would work to move STA and Totino-Grace up to AA, but not Breck, Roch. Lourdes, SC Cathedral or Duluth Marshall.
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Post by Froggy Richards »

rainier wrote:
Mite-dad wrote:
SquirtC'00 wrote:So, I guess if you're Catholic and your parents want (make) you to attend Catholic school so you get to practice your faith daily, you shouldn't be allowed to play hockey? It's God or the puck, right? Only public school kids should be allowed to play? If your Parrish elementary school is in the neighboringing town, you cannot play hockey THERE with your school buds, oh wait MN Hockey says you can. Never mind that there are no "neighborhood buds" your age for several blocks anyway. And never mind that associations will dog you because you're one of those "private school" kids, so we won't bother developing you. And one-third of the STA boys receive financial aid and that doesn't mean 200 hockey players Yea, those Catholic kids get all the breaks...
Funny you should write this. Putting all the private schools in the same section would definitely show what comes first. Something tells me God would take a back seat and more kids would stay at the public school. Besides, the school you go to shouldn't determine if you practice your faith daily.
I think having an all-private section is an outstanding idea. They already all play each other every season so the schedules wouldn't even need to be changed much. Private schools have set up their own educational systems that differ from that of public schools, so it would only be natural for them to have to go by a different athletic system than the public schools. A section with Hill, BSM, STA, and Breck would provide great section playoffs and would always send a top team to state.

I read somewhere that in Missouri private schools must play one level up from where their enrollment would place them. This is also a great idea.

As for Hermantown opting up to AA, I fully expect them to in two years. But the question is: Will they open up their team to transfers? They have a great program and a great coach, so they would certainly be attractive to local talent.

If the Hawks are in AA, they should also do everything that gives them the best chance to win, just as you find at other top AA schools. This includes allowing transfers from anywhere at anytime (even other states) and actively seeking out top talent from other youth associations. Perhaps Plante may not go for this, but I bet the next Hermantown coach will have no choice but to go "full AA" on it. Being the only other AA school in the Duluth area would probably give them an additional boost as far as attracting players.


When in Rome...
Top talent from other youth associations is already there. There Bantam Program is 25% Proctor and Duluth kids. 2 AA and 3 A players from Proctor alone. That means they moved there or open enrolled before it was closed. So they will play High School there too. They are proposing new schools/additions this year. Once they have more room, open enrollment is back on and the floodgates will be open.
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Post by pekyman »

Froggy Richards wrote:
rainier wrote:
Mite-dad wrote:Funny you should write this. Putting all the private schools in the same section would definitely show what comes first. Something tells me God would take a back seat and more kids would stay at the public school. Besides, the school you go to shouldn't determine if you practice your faith daily.
I think having an all-private section is an outstanding idea. They already all play each other every season so the schedules wouldn't even need to be changed much. Private schools have set up their own educational systems that differ from that of public schools, so it would only be natural for them to have to go by a different athletic system than the public schools. A section with Hill, BSM, STA, and Breck would provide great section playoffs and would always send a top team to state.

I read somewhere that in Missouri private schools must play one level up from where their enrollment would place them. This is also a great idea.

As for Hermantown opting up to AA, I fully expect them to in two years. But the question is: Will they open up their team to transfers? They have a great program and a great coach, so they would certainly be attractive to local talent.

If the Hawks are in AA, they should also do everything that gives them the best chance to win, just as you find at other top AA schools. This includes allowing transfers from anywhere at anytime (even other states) and actively seeking out top talent from other youth associations. Perhaps Plante may not go for this, but I bet the next Hermantown coach will have no choice but to go "full AA" on it. Being the only other AA school in the Duluth area would probably give them an additional boost as far as attracting players.


When in Rome...
Top talent from other youth associations is already there. There Bantam Program is 25% Proctor and Duluth kids. 2 AA and 3 A players from Proctor alone. That means they moved there or open enrolled before it was closed. So they will play High School there too. They are proposing new schools/additions this year. Once they have more room, open enrollment is back on and the floodgates will be open.
Sorry to report that none of this "top" Proctor talent played on the Varsity team that went to state. Also, even with all this top talent from proctor, neither the BNAA or PWAA teams could get by Rapids or EAST and go to state this year. :roll:
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Post by rainier »

Froggy Richards wrote:
rainier wrote:
Mite-dad wrote:Funny you should write this. Putting all the private schools in the same section would definitely show what comes first. Something tells me God would take a back seat and more kids would stay at the public school. Besides, the school you go to shouldn't determine if you practice your faith daily.
I think having an all-private section is an outstanding idea. They already all play each other every season so the schedules wouldn't even need to be changed much. Private schools have set up their own educational systems that differ from that of public schools, so it would only be natural for them to have to go by a different athletic system than the public schools. A section with Hill, BSM, STA, and Breck would provide great section playoffs and would always send a top team to state.

I read somewhere that in Missouri private schools must play one level up from where their enrollment would place them. This is also a great idea.

As for Hermantown opting up to AA, I fully expect them to in two years. But the question is: Will they open up their team to transfers? They have a great program and a great coach, so they would certainly be attractive to local talent.

If the Hawks are in AA, they should also do everything that gives them the best chance to win, just as you find at other top AA schools. This includes allowing transfers from anywhere at anytime (even other states) and actively seeking out top talent from other youth associations. Perhaps Plante may not go for this, but I bet the next Hermantown coach will have no choice but to go "full AA" on it. Being the only other AA school in the Duluth area would probably give them an additional boost as far as attracting players.


When in Rome...
Top talent from other youth associations is already there. There Bantam Program is 25% Proctor and Duluth kids. 2 AA and 3 A players from Proctor alone. That means they moved there or open enrolled before it was closed. So they will play High School there too. They are proposing new schools/additions this year. Once they have more room, open enrollment is back on and the floodgates will be open.
I'm not sure if kids on the A team are "top talent", I'm guessing they would be on the AA team if they were.

Either way the top HS local talent hasn't moved there yet. If Hermantown had been allowing transfers it would have been super easy for kids like Talarico, Thompson, Miller, Lopez, Fralich, etc. to "move" to Hermantown while in HS and have a real shot at a title, not just going to state. I'm wondering if this will start to happen once Hermantown goes AA and open enrollment returns.

It will be interesting to see.
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