Section 3A (2013-2014)

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:40 pm

MrGoalieBoy wrote:Any updates in Windom?

You can stream the game at oursiouxland.com. Its on KQAD.

or on the TuneIn app available on IOS and android and maybe whatever galactical device trout uses.

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 7:44 pm

notTONIGHT wrote:
MrGoalieBoy wrote:Any updates in Windom?
You can stream the game at oursiouxland.com. Its on KQAD.

or on the TuneIn app available on IOS and android and maybe whatever galactical device trout uses.

Thanks notTONIGHT.

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 9:24 pm

MrGoalieBoy wrote:Any updates in Windom?

Spaghetti

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Mon Feb 03, 2014 10:30 pm

Luverne suffering from the old "give them your best shot" effect in the first couple minutes. The first four to six shifts were pretty impressive for windom. Then they got a power play, then they didn't do anything else the rest of the entire game.

Luverne 10
Windom 2

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 9:26 am

Had a colleague in the area that caught the Luverne game last night. Sounds like they didn't move the puck as well as they had earlier in the season, but were never in danger of the 'trap' game happening. My (and his) question would be why on earth is the Nelson 'super line' out there in a 9-2 game in the last minutes. Fourth line saw one shift and had a nice scoring chance? Come on coach really?

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:09 am

hawkenjonny wrote:Had a colleague in the area that caught the Luverne game last night. Sounds like they didn't move the puck as well as they had earlier in the season, but were never in danger of the 'trap' game happening. My (and his) question would be why on earth is the Nelson 'super line' out there in a 9-2 game in the last minutes. Fourth line saw one shift and had a nice scoring chance? Come on coach really?

Maybe because the playoffs are coming?

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:56 am

Some might say playoff prep. Most would say stat padding which Luverne gets hammered for all the time on this forum and off. Starting to see why. This is TYPICAL play for them not just a playoff prep situation. Top two lines score repeatedly in blowout games late in the game.

Whatever makes you feel better.

Hockey2713 · Post by **Hockey2713** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:12 pm

hawkenjonny wrote:Had a colleague in the area that caught the Luverne game last night. Sounds like they didn't move the puck as well as they had earlier in the season, but were never in danger of the 'trap' game happening. My (and his) question would be why on earth is the Nelson 'super line' out there in a 9-2 game in the last minutes. Fourth line saw one shift and had a nice scoring chance? Come on coach really?

Yeah coach, come on really... You should sit your good players half the season because your competition is poor. Let's play line 3 and 4 the entire game so when it comes to playing good competition line 1 and 2 aren't ready. I am against running up the score but if they were to sit the first 2 lines every game they would never see ice time.

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:30 pm

hawkenjonny wrote:Some might say playoff prep. Most would say stat padding which Luverne gets hammered for all the time on this forum and off. Starting to see why. This is TYPICAL play for them not just a playoff prep situation. Top two lines score repeatedly in blowout games late in the game. Whatever makes you feel better.

Hawken(Windom)Jonny, pretty tough situation for Luverne in that IF they don't put up points, it could effect them in seedings. And IF they put up points, it get's Lord Setterholms new Peasants all butthurt. Be assured, Luverne's Coaching staff has NO desire to pad stats or burn down conference opponents, but they are also smart enough to understand what time of the season it is.

For your reference, attached is a scoresheet from a similar game situation.

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/game/show/54 ... rer=889296

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 1:57 pm

fastncrash wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Some might say playoff prep. Most would say stat padding which Luverne gets hammered for all the time on this forum and off. Starting to see why. This is TYPICAL play for them not just a playoff prep situation. Top two lines score repeatedly in blowout games late in the game. Whatever makes you feel better.
Hawken(Windom)Jonny, pretty tough situation for Luverne in that IF they don't put up points, it could effect them in seedings. And IF they put up points, it get's Lord Setterholms new Peasants all butthurt. Be assured, Luverne's Coaching staff has NO desire to pad stats or burn down conference opponents, but they are also smart enough to understand what time of the season it is.

For your reference, attached is a scoresheet from a similar game situation.

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/game/show/54 ... rer=889296

I agree with you 100%. Nice Post.

GopherPuck15 · Post by **GopherPuck15** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:45 pm

Does anyone think Luverne can actually compete at the State level?

fastncrash · Post by **fastncrash** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 2:50 pm

GopherPuck15 wrote:Does anyone think Luverne can actually compete at the State level?

Did anyone actually think Seattle was going to do that to Denver Sunday night?

InYourFace09 · Post by **InYourFace09** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:00 pm

fastncrash wrote:
GopherPuck15 wrote:Does anyone think Luverne can actually compete at the State level?
Did anyone actually think Seattle was going to do that to Denver Sunday night?

Salty?

The Cards did beat Kennedy who beat Jefferson, so they can play the game. First they have to get to state.

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:11 pm

fastncrash wrote:
hawkenjonny wrote:Some might say playoff prep. Most would say stat padding which Luverne gets hammered for all the time on this forum and off. Starting to see why. This is TYPICAL play for them not just a playoff prep situation. Top two lines score repeatedly in blowout games late in the game. Whatever makes you feel better.
Hawken(Windom)Jonny, pretty tough situation for Luverne in that IF they don't put up points, it could effect them in seedings. And IF they put up points, it get's Lord Setterholms new Peasants all butthurt. Be assured, Luverne's Coaching staff has NO desire to pad stats or burn down conference opponents, but they are also smart enough to understand what time of the season it is.

For your reference, attached is a scoresheet from a similar game situation.

Warroad doing the same thing doesn't change anything. I was told to check out the 3A forum by some friends who follow it and said it was entertaining due to the reactionary and defensive nature of the Luverne faithful. You boys don't disappoint! Everyone knows what time of the season it is, my point was that this has been going on all year. Sitting your horses for the last 5-7 minutes of the 3rd in a blowout is what is typical up here but obviously not down there. Or in Warroad. Oh, and as is typical, you guys love to assume everyone who comments is from your rival towns. Not within 100 miles of Luverne or Windom. Go Luverne!

http://www.mnhockeyhub.com/game/show/54 ... rer=889296

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:27 pm

hawkenjonny wrote:Some might say playoff prep. Most would say stat padding which Luverne gets hammered for all the time on this forum and off. Starting to see why. This is TYPICAL play for them not just a playoff prep situation. Top two lines score repeatedly in blowout games late in the game. Whatever makes you feel better.

I love when the "everyone needs a trophy" crowd shows up in this thread. Seems like they come around every week or so.

It is my opinion, that the programs in Luverne's area that decide to play "B" level hockey in youth levels, understand the consequences of that decision. This is a very visible consequence. It sends a message that maybe, hey, if 3A youth programs dont play B level, we might be able to improve the section.

Again, for like the fourth time. Hearts and minds of area programs shouldnt be the concern of the Luverne High School hockey team's coaching staff. ESPECIALLY within 2 weeks of playoff time.

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 3:49 pm

Did a little research. Thought MAYBE Luverne had no JV and had seniors playing line four. Wrong. Looks like maybe one senior on 4 and several on JV just based on player stats. The reason for playing 3/4 a little more on lopsided games seems obvious. It's not about the trophy Herb, it's about player preparation for ALL 20. Why EVER play the backup goalie? In case you need them. Game experience cannot be duplicated in practice. With returning players on line 4 you might want them ready if anyone gets hurt or goes ineligible. I'm sure that doesn't happen in Luverne....

notTONIGHT · Post by **notTONIGHT** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 5:30 pm

hawkenjonny wrote:Did a little research. Thought MAYBE Luverne had no JV and had seniors playing line four. Wrong. Looks like maybe one senior on 4 and several on JV just based on player stats. The reason for playing 3/4 a little more on lopsided games seems obvious. It's not about the trophy Herb, it's about player preparation for ALL 20. Why EVER play the backup goalie? In case you need them. Game experience cannot be duplicated in practice. With returning players on line 4 you might want them ready if anyone gets hurt or goes ineligible. I'm sure that doesn't happen in Luverne....

If your proposing luverne doesnt play line 3. You need to continue your research.

If your also proposing luverne never plays line 4. You also need to continue your research. Einstein.

Section 3A HockeyScout · Tue Feb 04, 2014 7:56 pm

hockeyfan26 wrote:Luverne still needs to show some respect for their opponents. I mean they have the 1 seed locked up no question they deserve it. Yeah its 2 weeks until playoffs but back when I played in games like that I would sit the whole 3rd period and a good chunk of the 2nd period (2 in the month of February)

Just some MORE reasons not to like Luverne. (Most hated team in 3A)

I think its a tough situation.

SW Minnesota needs to get better so teams are not put in this situation. a 10-2 game does no one any good in the area.

Hopefully if Windom can develop their program and will lead to more contested games in the future.

I think this is getting to much play on here. At some point Windom needs to work on improving themselves and stop worrying about who the other guys are putting on the ice.

However, if we want to Luverne bash these type of things are why when Luverne does their annual Playoff Choke everyone will be smiling

RRubberbeeskit · Post by **RRubberbeeskit** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:20 pm

InYourFace09 wrote:
fastncrash wrote:
GopherPuck15 wrote:Does anyone think Luverne can actually compete at the State level?
Did anyone actually think Seattle was going to do that to Denver Sunday night?

Salty?

The Cards did beat Kennedy who beat Jefferson, so they can play the game. First they have to get to state.

The Cards(Seattle) did beat Kennedy (Denver) who beat Jefferson (Vikings) oh gee it was Seattle (Cards) that beat the Vikings (Jefferson) oh what the heck who cares who beat who. The Cards need to beat somebody that really
matters at some point. Htown, EGF, Warroad, Or Breck. Up the schedule and play some talent Cards next year! Good luck to them I would like to watch them play at some point. My only chance will be at state.

wooshlager · Post by **wooshlager** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 8:48 pm

Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:
hockeyfan26 wrote:Luverne still needs to show some respect for their opponents. I mean they have the 1 seed locked up no question they deserve it. Yeah its 2 weeks until playoffs but back when I played in games like that I would sit the whole 3rd period and a good chunk of the 2nd period (2 in the month of February)
Just some MORE reasons not to like Luverne. (Most hated team in 3A)

I think its a tough situation.

SW Minnesota needs to get better so teams are not put in this situation. a 10-2 game does no one any good in the area.

Hopefully if Windom can develop their program and will lead to more contested games in the future.

I think this is getting to much play on here. At some point Windom needs to work on improving themselves and stop worrying about who the other guys are putting on the ice.

However, if we want to Luverne bash these type of things are why when Luverne does their annual Playoff Choke everyone will be smiling

Gee seem really unbiased there "scout"

You are becoming more of a joke with every post. Please do us all a favor... take two weeks off... then quit.

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:47 pm

Wow this thread.. Bashing, bashing, and more bashing. Getting ridiculous, scout that was probably the most biased post I have seen from you... Really expressing your hate for Luverne. Probably explains why you choose to call every game they play a "trap game." I just can't wait for Friday, I hope we get a competitive game. Goodluck to all teams the remainder of the week. See you all Friday!

MrGoalieBoy · Post by **MrGoalieBoy** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 10:52 pm

wooshlager wrote:
Section 3A HockeyScout wrote:
hockeyfan26 wrote:Luverne still needs to show some respect for their opponents. I mean they have the 1 seed locked up no question they deserve it. Yeah its 2 weeks until playoffs but back when I played in games like that I would sit the whole 3rd period and a good chunk of the 2nd period (2 in the month of February)
Just some MORE reasons not to like Luverne. (Most hated team in 3A)

I think its a tough situation.

SW Minnesota needs to get better so teams are not put in this situation. a 10-2 game does no one any good in the area.

Hopefully if Windom can develop their program and will lead to more
contested games in the future.

I think this is getting to much play on here. At some point Windom needs to work on improving themselves and stop worrying about who the other guys are putting on the ice.

However, if we want to Luverne bash these type of things are why when Luverne does their annual Playoff Choke everyone will be smiling

Gee seem really unbiased there "scout"

You are becoming more of a joke with every post. Please do us all a favor... take two weeks off... then quit.

Scout, do you not realize that in Southwest MN, Luverne is about the ONLY team striving to get better. (Playing A Hockey) throughout their program. This is why the Southwest Conference is absolutely dog crap.

goldy313 · Post by **goldy313** » Tue Feb 04, 2014 11:55 pm

Not even close to the most biased post scout has made, not even top 10.

He was awful, got better and at least somewhat objective, now is back to his awful hate filled posts and rants again.

I'm not sure, outside his mind, there is a hated team in 3A and on a state level a lot of people are pulling for Luverne as it is good for hockey.

GopherPuck15 · Post by **GopherPuck15** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 1:36 am

RRubberbeeskit wrote:
InYourFace09 wrote:
fastncrash wrote: Did anyone actually think Seattle was going to do that to Denver Sunday night?

Salty?

The Cards did beat Kennedy who beat Jefferson, so they can play the game. First they have to get to state.
The Cards(Seattle) did beat Kennedy (Denver) who beat Jefferson (Vikings) oh gee it was Seattle (Cards) that beat the Vikings (Jefferson) oh what the heck who cares who beat who. The Cards need to beat somebody that really
matters at some point. Htown, EGF, Warroad, Or Breck. Up the schedule and play some talent Cards next year! Good luck to them I would like to watch them play at some point. My only chance will be at state.

Luverne can't get those games. It's simple. What does a team like thy hve to gain playing Luverne? Absolutely nothing. They're expected to pound an average school and if they don't it's complete embarrassment and disaster.

hawkenjonny · Post by **hawkenjonny** » Wed Feb 05, 2014 7:18 am

Wow. Luverne bashing was not my intent. I have become interested in their story after seeing some of their younger teams which indicates to me that they are working on building a PROGRAM. Great for hockey and SW. Other SW teams could look at their model to find more success. The question about the 3/4 lines comes out of that. You do not build a complete and consistent program without using the (many in Luverne's case) opportunities you have in run time games to get kids experience needed for next game or even next season. If you do not do that, fine, but don't be so offended when people do not take the numbers your team puts up seriously. You have a rather large yet entertaining chip on your shoulder Herb. I still am in Luverne's corner. Hope they get there and put on a good show.