The Roseau paper didn't mention Gardiner last week eithermulefarm wrote:I read in the Mpls. paper Jake Gardiner was the highest ranked Mn. player. No mention of Ness?
Aaron Ness a man amongst Boys?
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Ness is good
I have watched this kid from Pee Wees, he is good.
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Re: Ness is good
I agree, he's awsome!Lakeviewing wrote:I have watched this kid from Pee Wees, he is good.
The only soft spot I see is the one between my legs
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Re: Ness is good
Neutron 14 wrote:I agree, he's awsome!Lakeviewing wrote:I have watched this kid at Pee Wee Hermans house,he is good.
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I noticed there was not mention of Gardiner in the Hockey News eitherCan't Never Tried wrote:There was no room left!Neutron 14 wrote:For good reason too!ACTUALFORMERPLAYER wrote: The Roseau paper didn't mention Gardiner last week either
http://thehockeynews.com/listings/111-Y ... e-Ram.html
but they did mention Ness has 49 points in 19 games as a D-man
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I bet Ness would have twice as many points if he was playing a cheesy schedule like Tonka!61ache wrote:I noticed there was not mention of Gardiner in the Hockey News eitherCan't Never Tried wrote:There was no room left!Neutron 14 wrote: For good reason too!
http://thehockeynews.com/listings/111-Y ... e-Ram.html
but they did mention Ness has 49 points in 19 games as a D-man
The only soft spot I see is the one between my legs
61ache - "I noticed there was not mention of Gardiner in the Hockey News either"
well someone posted this on another topic from the hockey news:
The Hot List: Taking it to the next level
Six-foot-two, 175-pound Jake Gardiner is projected to be taken in the first two rounds of the upcoming NHL entry draft. (Photo courtesy of Steve Ellingsworth)
Ryan Kennedy
2008-01-29 11:24:10
After their head-to-head showdown, Hot List Hall of Famers Steven Stamkos and John Tavares return to their thrones. With pre-draft scouting reports beginning to pick up, expect to see some fresh new names on the list in the weeks to come.
1. Nathan Gerbe, C – Boston College Eagles (Hockey East): Gerbe has been absolutely tearing it up as of late, leading the conference in scoring with 37 points in 23 games. He led Hockey East in goals last year and is likely to do it again. Drafted 142nd overall by Buffalo in 2005.
2. Jake Gardiner, D – Minnetonka Skippers (Minn. HS): They say high school can be the best years of your life, but for Minnetonka’s Jake Gardiner, the fun has just begun.
An offensive defenseman who started his career at forward, Gardiner is slated to be taken in the first two rounds of the NHL draft this summer and will be attending the University of Wisconsin in the fall.
But wait – a Minnesota kid donning the Badger red and white?
“I really liked the campus and the coach’s philosophies,” Gardiner said. “And the whole staff there was great.”
Gardiner has been gaining attention for his speed and playmaking abilities, but as a high school student, his attention still must be trained on hard work on and off the ice.
“I worry about school during the day,” he said. “Then after I go to practice, I lift (weights) to keep in shape.”
And while being the Big Man on Campus at the suburban St. Paul school is fun, Gardiner has tried to keep his feet on the ground.
“It doesn’t phase me,” he said of the draft buzz. “I know it’s a long way off.”
In the meantime, Gardiner is focused on a Minnesota title. The Skippers are ranked third in the state right now and already have a big tournament win at the prestigious Schwan Cup. Gardiner likes the way his team is playing.
“We’re all good friends,” he said. “And it shows on the ice.”
Draft eligible in 2008.
3. Tyler Ennis, C – Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL): At 5-foot-9, 160 pounds, Ennis isn’t the biggest cat on the ice, but his other numbers are sweet: The pint-sized pivot has 30 goals and 66 points in 51 games, smashing his totals from last year. Draft eligible in 2008.
4. Tyler Myers, D – Kelowna Rockets (WHL): On the other end of the Dub spectrum is goliath defenseman Myers. The 6-foot-7, 200-pounder has raised quite a few scouting eyebrows and while his offensive numbers are slight, word is the kid can skate. Draft eligible in 2008.
5. Brett MacLean, LW – Oshawa Generals (OHL): Lost in all the Tavares talk is the OHL’s leading scorer basically since Day 1 this season. MacLean is scoring more than a <i>goal per game<i>, racking up 98 points in 45 contests. Drafted 32nd overall by Phoenix in 2007.
6. Jeff Zatkoff, G – Miami RedHawks (CCHA): The Kings’ draft pick is getting stodgier as the season goes on. His conference-leading goals-against average is down to 1.50 and his save percentage is a fantastic .937. Drafted 74th overall by Los Angeles in 2006.
7. Billy Sauer, G – Michigan Wolverines (CCHA): If you’re going to score in the CCHA, don’t expect to do much of it against Miami or Michigan. Sauer is tied with Zatkoff in save percentage and is second in GAA at 1.68. Drafted 201st overall by Colorado in 2006.
8. Marc-Andre Bourdon, D – Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (QMJHL): Not only is Bourdon leading the Q in scoring by a defenseman with 48 points in 52 games, he’s also posting a very favorable plus-minus rating of plus-30. Draft eligible in 2008.
9. Ryan Ellis, D – Windsor Spitfires (OHL): Despite just turning 17 this month, Ellis has eclipsed the other Spitfires D in points this season and he’s done it on the power play. The young blueliner has 28 of his 44 points on the man advantage, including 20 assists. Draft eligible in 2009.
10. T.J. Oshie, C – North Dakota Fighting Sioux (WCHA): Oshie wants that elusive national title and this is his last kick at the can. He’s up over the point-per-game mark, which is always good news for the Sioux. Drafted 24th overall by St. Louis in 2005.
11. Jonathan Blum, D – Vancouver Giants (WHL): Averaging just more than a point a game, the California native is making the most of his time in junior. Blum’s numbers have increased dramatically each year in Vancouver. Drafted 23rd overall by Nashville in 2007.
12. Mikkel Boedker, RW – Kitchener Rangers (OHL): Denmark’s finest is having a banner year on a loaded Rangers squad. He’s putting up points on the power play and scoring with regularity. At 5-foot-11 and 200 pounds, he’s definitely got NHL bulk. Draft eligible in 2008.
13. Kelsey Tessier, C – Quebec Remparts (QMJHL): A former Shattuck-St. Mary’s charge, Tessier doesn’t let his size (5-foot-9, 172 pounds) become a factor. Coach Patrick Roy loves how the pivot battles and with 59 points in 49 games, he’s winning a lot of those encounters. Draft eligible in 2008.
14. Viktor Tikhonov, LW – Severstal Cherepovets (Rus): The late bloomer with the famous name (the coach is his grandfather) has hit the draft board hard thanks to a dynamite showing at the World Junior Championship this year. Playing on a weak elite league team, he still has 10 points in 33 games. Draft eligible in 2008.
15. Zac Dalpe, C – Penticton Vees (BCHL): In just 36 games, Dalpe has 48 points. The Ohio State commit has also shown a penchant for special teams thievery, already notching three shorthanded goals. Draft eligible in 2008.
The Hot List, a weekly roundup of minor league, junior, college and high school players we’re exciting to one day see in the NHL, appears every Tuesday, only on thehockeynews.com.
well someone posted this on another topic from the hockey news:
The Hot List: Taking it to the next level
Six-foot-two, 175-pound Jake Gardiner is projected to be taken in the first two rounds of the upcoming NHL entry draft. (Photo courtesy of Steve Ellingsworth)
Ryan Kennedy
2008-01-29 11:24:10
After their head-to-head showdown, Hot List Hall of Famers Steven Stamkos and John Tavares return to their thrones. With pre-draft scouting reports beginning to pick up, expect to see some fresh new names on the list in the weeks to come.
1. Nathan Gerbe, C – Boston College Eagles (Hockey East): Gerbe has been absolutely tearing it up as of late, leading the conference in scoring with 37 points in 23 games. He led Hockey East in goals last year and is likely to do it again. Drafted 142nd overall by Buffalo in 2005.
2. Jake Gardiner, D – Minnetonka Skippers (Minn. HS): They say high school can be the best years of your life, but for Minnetonka’s Jake Gardiner, the fun has just begun.
An offensive defenseman who started his career at forward, Gardiner is slated to be taken in the first two rounds of the NHL draft this summer and will be attending the University of Wisconsin in the fall.
But wait – a Minnesota kid donning the Badger red and white?
“I really liked the campus and the coach’s philosophies,” Gardiner said. “And the whole staff there was great.”
Gardiner has been gaining attention for his speed and playmaking abilities, but as a high school student, his attention still must be trained on hard work on and off the ice.
“I worry about school during the day,” he said. “Then after I go to practice, I lift (weights) to keep in shape.”
And while being the Big Man on Campus at the suburban St. Paul school is fun, Gardiner has tried to keep his feet on the ground.
“It doesn’t phase me,” he said of the draft buzz. “I know it’s a long way off.”
In the meantime, Gardiner is focused on a Minnesota title. The Skippers are ranked third in the state right now and already have a big tournament win at the prestigious Schwan Cup. Gardiner likes the way his team is playing.
“We’re all good friends,” he said. “And it shows on the ice.”
Draft eligible in 2008.
3. Tyler Ennis, C – Medicine Hat Tigers (WHL): At 5-foot-9, 160 pounds, Ennis isn’t the biggest cat on the ice, but his other numbers are sweet: The pint-sized pivot has 30 goals and 66 points in 51 games, smashing his totals from last year. Draft eligible in 2008.
4. Tyler Myers, D – Kelowna Rockets (WHL): On the other end of the Dub spectrum is goliath defenseman Myers. The 6-foot-7, 200-pounder has raised quite a few scouting eyebrows and while his offensive numbers are slight, word is the kid can skate. Draft eligible in 2008.
5. Brett MacLean, LW – Oshawa Generals (OHL): Lost in all the Tavares talk is the OHL’s leading scorer basically since Day 1 this season. MacLean is scoring more than a <i>goal per game<i>, racking up 98 points in 45 contests. Drafted 32nd overall by Phoenix in 2007.
6. Jeff Zatkoff, G – Miami RedHawks (CCHA): The Kings’ draft pick is getting stodgier as the season goes on. His conference-leading goals-against average is down to 1.50 and his save percentage is a fantastic .937. Drafted 74th overall by Los Angeles in 2006.
7. Billy Sauer, G – Michigan Wolverines (CCHA): If you’re going to score in the CCHA, don’t expect to do much of it against Miami or Michigan. Sauer is tied with Zatkoff in save percentage and is second in GAA at 1.68. Drafted 201st overall by Colorado in 2006.
8. Marc-Andre Bourdon, D – Rouyn-Noranda Huskies (QMJHL): Not only is Bourdon leading the Q in scoring by a defenseman with 48 points in 52 games, he’s also posting a very favorable plus-minus rating of plus-30. Draft eligible in 2008.
9. Ryan Ellis, D – Windsor Spitfires (OHL): Despite just turning 17 this month, Ellis has eclipsed the other Spitfires D in points this season and he’s done it on the power play. The young blueliner has 28 of his 44 points on the man advantage, including 20 assists. Draft eligible in 2009.
10. T.J. Oshie, C – North Dakota Fighting Sioux (WCHA): Oshie wants that elusive national title and this is his last kick at the can. He’s up over the point-per-game mark, which is always good news for the Sioux. Drafted 24th overall by St. Louis in 2005.
11. Jonathan Blum, D – Vancouver Giants (WHL): Averaging just more than a point a game, the California native is making the most of his time in junior. Blum’s numbers have increased dramatically each year in Vancouver. Drafted 23rd overall by Nashville in 2007.
12. Mikkel Boedker, RW – Kitchener Rangers (OHL): Denmark’s finest is having a banner year on a loaded Rangers squad. He’s putting up points on the power play and scoring with regularity. At 5-foot-11 and 200 pounds, he’s definitely got NHL bulk. Draft eligible in 2008.
13. Kelsey Tessier, C – Quebec Remparts (QMJHL): A former Shattuck-St. Mary’s charge, Tessier doesn’t let his size (5-foot-9, 172 pounds) become a factor. Coach Patrick Roy loves how the pivot battles and with 59 points in 49 games, he’s winning a lot of those encounters. Draft eligible in 2008.
14. Viktor Tikhonov, LW – Severstal Cherepovets (Rus): The late bloomer with the famous name (the coach is his grandfather) has hit the draft board hard thanks to a dynamite showing at the World Junior Championship this year. Playing on a weak elite league team, he still has 10 points in 33 games. Draft eligible in 2008.
15. Zac Dalpe, C – Penticton Vees (BCHL): In just 36 games, Dalpe has 48 points. The Ohio State commit has also shown a penchant for special teams thievery, already notching three shorthanded goals. Draft eligible in 2008.
The Hot List, a weekly roundup of minor league, junior, college and high school players we’re exciting to one day see in the NHL, appears every Tuesday, only on thehockeynews.com.
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All year I've been hearing about this Gardiner kid. With the game on FSN I was excited to see the kid. There's been so many comparisons to Ness and Gardiner and not to be harsh, but I don't really see it. The kid's hands aren't all that good and he's not that great of a skater. Defensively, it seemed like he hasn't been playing the position long. There were a lot of defensive blunders made, but he does have size. Really not that impressed.
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I Agree, Good player don't get me wrong... but just doesn't have the hands, quickness and hockey sense like Ness...All year I've been hearing about this Gardiner kid. With the game on FSN I was excited to see the kid. There's been so many comparisons to Ness and Gardiner and not to be harsh, but I don't really see it. The kid's hands aren't all that good and he's not that great of a skater. Defensively, it seemed like he hasn't been playing the position long. There were a lot of defensive blunders made, but he does have size. Really not that impressed.
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]The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:I Agree, Good player don't get me wrong... but just doesn't have the hands, quickness and hockey sense like Ness...All year I've been hearing about this Gardiner kid. With the game on FSN I was excited to see the kid. There's been so many comparisons to Ness and Gardiner and not to be harsh, but I don't really see it. The kid's hands aren't all that good and he's not that great of a skater. Defensively, it seemed like he hasn't been playing the position long. There were a lot of defensive blunders made, but he does have size. Really not that impressed.
I disagree he has amazing hands best ive ever seen and he can fly.. I hate minnetonka but this kid is impressive
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He didn't look comfortable out there tonight. Maybe you have to give some credit to Edina.
I was actually quite impressed with Gardiner's overall skills. I thought he stood out alot in what I saw. Granted, playing defense for a shorter length of time than Ness, he probably has some things to learn. But I can see where a coach would be very excited about the tools/package he has to offer - great skater, long reach, nice size (better when he fills it out), and very good hands. His offensive instincts without a doubt are his strong suit right now, but I would think the defensive part of his game will continue to evolve.
Best you've ever seen? Come on now. I understand if you're a MHS fan and that's cool, but...hockeyfan43 wrote:]The_Phantom_Enigma wrote:I Agree, Good player don't get me wrong... but just doesn't have the hands, quickness and hockey sense like Ness...All year I've been hearing about this Gardiner kid. With the game on FSN I was excited to see the kid. There's been so many comparisons to Ness and Gardiner and not to be harsh, but I don't really see it. The kid's hands aren't all that good and he's not that great of a skater. Defensively, it seemed like he hasn't been playing the position long. There were a lot of defensive blunders made, but he does have size. Really not that impressed.
I disagree he has amazing hands best ive ever seen and he can fly.. I hate minnetonka but this kid is impressive
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61ache wrote:Best you've ever seen? Come on now. I understand if you're a MHS fan and that's cool, but...hockeyfan43 wrote:]The_Phantom_Enigma wrote: I Agree, Good player don't get me wrong... but just doesn't have the hands, quickness and hockey sense like Ness...
I disagree he has amazing hands best ive ever seen and he can fly.. I hate minnetonka but this kid is impressive
and im no skipper fan
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No, You are a pot stirrer. You are good for starting debate and bumping threads of the states top players and teams. You are entitled to your opinions but as long as you are President of the Gardiner fan club you will not be taken seriously. He has tons of talent and potential but has a long way to go to actually be called a defenseman. His play will cost Tonka any shot at a third game with Edina. Buonomo is good but not good enough to make up for his defensive short comings. He was not the best player on the ice last night or even on his own team. Start your own Gardiner thread and stay there. I doubt any actual Roseau people will go there and say anything negative about him.hockeyfan43 wrote:61ache wrote:Best you've ever seen? Come on now. I understand if you're a MHS fan and that's cool, but...hockeyfan43 wrote:]
I disagree he has amazing hands best ive ever seen and he can fly.. I hate minnetonka but this kid is impressive
and im no skipper fan