New 1 AA section seedings

[southhockey00]

LN got scored on from the redline on the opening face off by chaska, they need to fix the tending to say the least

[Sioux Fan]

Who played goal Matt Arentz is a fine goaltender?

[southhockey00]

arentz gave up 8 against ep so thomas started and got 10 min in before being replaced again by arentz ( 3 goals for thomas in 10 min, 2 for arentz)

[southhockey00]

i mean eastview*

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

Mayo had a huge win tonight....maybe standings should determine it, maybe not. Mayo's win over Owatonna was way more impressive than any win Owatonna has in the conference so far this year. I will say it again, Owatonna's only good win outside the Big Nine is Blake.
Owatonna is slipping fast 15-6 now and they have lost most of those recently.

Mayo blew it Friday against LS - holding onto that win would look even better than with LS's win over Rosemount. IF LS beats LN again, it could erase a bad loss by Mayo to LN earlier this year. If Mayo can run the table and Century beats Owatonna, Mayo would tie Owatonna for points in Big Nine (assuming the Huskies win their other 2 conference games).
Mayo played all of the LS game w/out Oetliker - a good stay at home gritty defenseman. They also lost Hoppenworth in that game. Both were out tonight and Mayo looked good defensively tonight w/ a JV guy and a forward moved back to defense.
Some key moments were Steinmetz taking over for Yaggy - who appeared to get injured - and Steinmetz played pretty well. Another one was when Whitney got knocked out on an open ice hit - Mayo responded with three quick goals in the 2nd period to take a 5-2 lead after two periods. Mayo won the races tonight and it should in the play of the game.

I am not sure who else LS and LN have left to play....but Century is definitely going to make some noise down the stretch - gaining four points in the standings tonight.

I thought this section would be a 6 team race earlier in the year, but Farmington has faded big time.

[JRdeeez]

Mayo will not run the table. Feb. 12 they will lose to a team that most likely will be playing for the Big 9 title.

[gopher1]

arentz gave up 8 against ep so thomas started and got 10 min in before being replaced again by arentz ( 3 goals for thomas in 10 min, 2 for arentz)

Arentz didn't give up 8 goals at EP, it was 4-3 EP. He gave up 5 vs Eagan, and only 2 against Chaska. Thomas has let the rest of them in. It's true that the goalies need to step up, but the Coach needs to step down! Hopefully the players will suprise some when it comes to sections.

Also, it was a nice win for LS vs Rosemount, but LN: tied Century, beat Mayo (pretty handily), and lost to LS, the first time and we'll see on Tuesday what happens. So let's not count LN out just yet, all the Rochester schools need to wait and see, those schools need to take care of their business first before seedings start.

[goaler]

Mayo looked great. Physically dominated Owatonna and controlled play throughout. Owatonna's goalie Eric Wobschall well in the first, otherwise the Huskies would never have been close in this game.

Tom Alexander had a great game, with at least four assists and all of them were on great plays with great passes. Mayo used those chances and finished well. Great penalty killing.

It looked like Yaggy hurt his ankle in warmups and took himself out in the second. Outstanding game for Mayo.

[southernpuck74]

owatonnas top three d were out, but congrats to mayo great game played very physical

[HShockey2180]

It looked like Yaggy hurt his ankle in warmups and took himself out in the second. Outstanding game for Mayo.

Bad news for the Spartans: I talked to Yaggy today, he tore his ACL...out for 7 months. he said he made a save in warm ups, and the slid over to make another and his knee just buckled and gave out. This is the second time he has had a serious injury to his knee, as he hurt it 2 years ago and had to sit out for about 4 months (not sure if it is the same knee). Good luck to Steinmetz, with sections approaching.

[southhockey00]

i havent seen owatonna yet this year im a lake guy, are they actually a legit team? what could they be compared to in the lake, eagan?

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

owatonnas top three d were out, but congrats to mayo great game played very physical

Mayo had a short bench as well - didn't you see the guys w/ helmets on the bench? The Spartans were w/ out their top two defensive defensemen, lost their top line center in the 2nd period, and their top goalie early in the 2nd period. No excuses, just play and play hard.

That is too bad for Yaggy, but Steinmetz is also a good goalie - he sometimes makes unreal saves. Mayo just needs to rally around him and work hard.

[eagle4life9]

[quote]With souths win over rosemount tonight...and assuming they beat north again.....they should be without a doubt the #1 seed......they will be 3-0-1 in sections play. And hold a win over a top ten rated team in the state....no other team in 1AA can top that[/quote]

LN beat EP 5-4 first half of the season. I dont think there still technically top 10 but a very good team none the less.

SEMinnHockeyNut-here are LS and LN's remaining schedules..
South 9-10-3 (AV, LN, EP)
North 6-13-3 (@Rose, @LS, Jeff.)

Even if North beats South there is no way they deserve a higher seed than them. South beat Century, tied Mayo. North beat Mayo, tied Century. If they split you have to look at the records and how theyve been playing recently. North has lost 4 in a row to teams like Chaska and Eagan (teams that they need to beat).

I agree that they need to do something with there goaltending. They have two pretty decent goalies but its kind of hard to get into a groove when you go every other game. Last year they had two different kids start during the playoffs and they cant do that again. Although neither one has really stepped up all year and they are both taking steps back right now I beleive you need to tell one of them that he is your guy and the team needs to have confidence in him.

[goaler]

That is really too bad for Yaggy.

I saw him get hurt in warmups. He tried to play but I was watching him in the second period and you could tell he was hurting. Then I saw him motioning to the bench that he had to come out.

That's a very bad break for a good goaler.

[Prodigy]

I have personally seen all the top teams in this section play and here is how I'd rank them

1.Lakeville South
2.Mayo
3.Owatonna
4.Lakeville North
5.Century

-I see a Lakeville team(probably South) comming out of this section again. Ever since the turn of the century Lakeville teams have been comming into sections with .500 records or below(except for maybe 1 year a couple years back when they had a good record) and winning this terrible section because they have been playing tougher competition than these teams all year long.

[RYHA_needs_3]

Prodigy,
Why do you rank South #1 and Mayo ahead of North? Mayo lost to North. Mayo had South beat but gave up a 2 goal lead and tied South. LN - LS game #1 was what? Owatonna beat mayo once and got beat once, quite handley. Owatonna has a pretty darn good record, but against who? I put Century ahead of Owatonna also, because Fish burns his kids out by sections and it appears he is doing just that again. Here's how I have them:


1. Lakeville North
2. Mayo
3. Lakeville South
4. Century
5. Owatonna

Let me know what all of you puckheads think.

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You gotta beat the best, to be the best! Wooooo!

[CrossbarandIn99]

Ryha. I think you are way off on your seedings. Especially the lakeville teams.

Here is what to look at from the top 4.
(Assuming south beats north again on tues)

South. They are 3-0-1 in sectional play...a win over century. 2 wins over north. And a tie AT mayo. They also are the only team in the section to have a win over a top 10 team in state.

North. They are struggling but beat both rochester teams. Their only losses in section play to south.

Mayo. Let one get away vs south. Have to give more credit in that game to south for stealin a point on the road. Big win vs owatonna though

Owatonna. Was the #1. But they are fallin quickly



That being said. Seedings should look like this.

1. South
2. North
3. Mayo
4. Owatonna
5. Century


If north upsets south on tues..flip those 2 around. North 1. South 2

[southhockey00]

well north beat ep when they were ranked 6 at the beginning of the year ( ep is like 10 or 11 now i think)

[Prodigy]

I choose my ranking based off how I felt the teams played when I saw them. How could you put Lakeville North in front of South? South beat them quite easily the first time, 5-1 I believe. South has a better record than North, and are pretty hot right now going 5-1-1 in their last 7 with a win over a top 10 team. Mayo is bigger and more pyhsical team than Owatonna and is playing better right now so I put them at 2. Its a toss up at 3 because niether Lakeville North nor Owatonna is playing well right now but maybe I'd take North now that I think about it

[southhockey00]

ya i think south is definitly ahead of the pack right now and even if they lose to north i still think they should be ahead of them.. but i would but north at 2 ahead of mayo because they beat them easily when they played

[goldy313]

North didn't beat Century, they tied them.

I think South has to be #1 if they beat North, Owatonna had to sweep Mayo and Century to be #1 and they didn't. Everything else will hinge on Century, Century has Owatonna and Mayo left in the section.

Century goes 2-0: South, Century, North, Mayo, Owatonna.
Century goes 0-2: South, North, Mayo/Owatonna (depending on Mayo/AL), Century.
Century goes 1-1 losing to Owatonna: South, Owatonna, Century, North, Mayo.
Century goes 1-1 losing to Mayo: South, North, Mayo, Owatonna, Century.

If Century goes 0-2 there also is a possibilty Farmington gets in at #5 and Century is #6. I don't think Mayo can be in front of North having lost 4-1 to them.

[HShockey2180]

Yaggy said today, that a second doctor thinks it may just be a strain, instead of a tear...he is having an MRI soon, to figure out for sure what it is.

[SEMinnHockeyNut]

North didn't beat Century, they tied them.

I think South has to be #1 if they beat North, Owatonna had to sweep Mayo and Century to be #1 and they didn't. Everything else will hinge on Century, Century has Owatonna and Mayo left in the section.

Century goes 2-0: South, Century, North, Mayo, Owatonna.
Century goes 0-2: South, North, Mayo/Owatonna (depending on Mayo/AL), Century.
Century goes 1-1 losing to Owatonna: South, Owatonna, Century, North, Mayo.
Century goes 1-1 losing to Mayo: South, North, Mayo, Owatonna, Century.

If Century goes 0-2 there also is a possibilty Farmington gets in at #5 and Century is #6. I don't think Mayo can be in front of North having lost 4-1 to them.

You are assuming that the coaches will look at it the way that you do. There is no way that Farmington gets seeded higher than Century because the Big Nine coaches won't do it. Mayo and Owatonna both beat Farmington and my guess is that most of the Big Nine coaches will look at Century as being better.
Another thing is that sometimes head to head determines the seedings, sometimes not. Last year Mayo got the 4th seed even though they lost to LS....LS had to play at Graham and lost 6-4 after beating the Spartans 2-1 up in Lakeville. Mayo crushed Hibbing 6-1 and Hibbing crushed LN in the same barn and coaches will look at that, as well as Mayo's bad performance against Lakeville (a day game....which Mayo plays poorly in)....the coaches will also look at the LS/Mayo tie and consider that IF LS beats LN again. I have a feeling that the LS coaches will rank Mayo above LN if they beat the Panthers again because they got a good game from Mayo. If Mayo beats Century again, perhaps the Century coaches will rank them ahead of a team they tied?
Much of it does boil down to Century, which many people are looking past those Panthers....however, the LN/Mayo game might be a total wash, especially if LN gets beat by LS again. The LN loss to Chaska will be noticed. Mayo is 4-1-1 in their last 6 games and they are 2-0-1 with a short bench in the last week.

[goldy313]

"The loss to Chaska will be noticed..."

Come on, Chaska is better than any team Mayo has beaten during heir 4-1-1 stretch, probably better than any yteam Mayo has beat this year. Mayo isn't bad but haven't beaten anybody, North beat Eden Prairie so at least they have a quality win, something nobody else but a Lakeville school has in 1AA this year. Both Lakeville schools are 1-0-1 against the Rochester teams, including North's 4-1 win over Mayo. Mayo has a very poor strength of schedule (80), 6th out of 9 in 1AA, North's is 2nd in 1AA (35). On the ice Mayo hasn't proved they're a top 2 team, every game they lose can't be beacuse they played poorly, at some point you have to realize that they aren't a very good team, but luckily for them they're in 1AA where nobody is very good.

By Lee's rankings the top 1AA team would be the 5th rated 1A team, Mitch would have the top team in 1AA 6th in 1A.

[gopher1]

"The loss to Chaska will be noticed..."

Come on, Chaska is better than any team Mayo has beaten during heir 4-1-1 stretch, probably better than any yteam Mayo has beat this year. Mayo isn't bad but haven't beaten anybody, North beat Eden Prairie so at least they have a quality win, something nobody else but a Lakeville school has in 1AA this year. Both Lakeville schools are 1-0-1 against the Rochester teams, including North's 4-1 win over Mayo. Mayo has a very poor strength of schedule (80), 6th out of 9 in 1AA, North's is 2nd in 1AA (35). On the ice Mayo hasn't proved they're a top 2 team, every game they lose can't be beacuse they played poorly, at some point you have to realize that they aren't a very good team, but luckily for them they're in 1AA where nobody is very good.

By Lee's rankings the top 1AA team would be the 5th rated 1A team, Mitch would have the top team in 1AA 6th in 1A.

Nice post Goldy

It seems that the Rochester teams want a better seed. They haven't beaten either one of the Lakeville teams. Strength of schedule weights a lot when it comes to seeding. This is the way I see them:

#1 LS, #2 LN, #3 Mayo, #4 Owatonna, #5 Century and the rest.