Girls Playing On Boys Teams

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InigoMontoya
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Post by InigoMontoya »

As long as someone decided to drag this back up, a couple more thoughts:
Number of girls playing 8 years ago, 5 years ago and today. It's grown significantly since we split the boys and girls at the mite level.
Our association saw this, too. As it turned out for us there was a causal relationship, but not as you describe. Several years ago there were a few hockey guys, blessed with having only daughters, that happened to have girls about the same age. They fought for and received segregated ice for 8U girls, good for them [no sarcasm]. They dressed them all up in pink, convinced a bunch of their friends to join, had bowling, pizza, and movie parties together, skated with the gophers - fun was had by all, and the look of a giant bottle of Pepto Bismol being spilled onto the ice was cute. That group of girls has moved on to 10U, so many of them that after dragging up 4 or 5 siblings, coaches kids, and board members kids from the 8U, they were able to field 2 10U teams - awesome.

However, gone from the 8U are those kids, their parent coaches, and, as it turns out, most importantly, the parental recruiters. The association is left to figure out what to do with an 8U group that has about 1/3 the numbers it had 2 years ago. The ‘research’ did not show in this case that an 8U program caused more girls to play, but rather more girls had caused an 8U program. I’ve heard from folks at a couple other associations that have experienced the same thing: 8U numbers peaked then dropped (those parents started something that the association had not bought into and perpetuated). In addition, those coaches (usually a couple dads of the 5 and 6 year old girls) now realize that the sleepovers were a good time, but the girls didn’t learn much about hockey.

More to the subject, those 8U programs are left with 2 or 3 girls that chased the older girls and can skate, the remainder of the 8U are either just getting started, or were more interested with the face painting parties than with hockey. What do you do with the 2 or 3? They want to go, go, go, but the few coaches that remain at 8U need to spend their time and energy at the level of the majority of kids. Do you tell them to skate with the boys, or tell them to go play basketball this year, and maybe their peers will have caught up with them by next winter?

Even at the 10U level, if the association offers one B team, and 1 or 2 girls are well above the rest, how is the program served by stunting the development of those 2 girls? How are the other girls on the team affected by having 1 or 2 kids that can handle the puck and skate, which in outstate 10UB hockey means they can go end-to-end without much resistance? Is the association better served by forcing those girls to 10U rather than squirts, is the high school program eventually better served, and most importantly, are the girls better served?
inthestands
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Post by inthestands »

Number of girls playing 8 years ago, 5 years ago and today. It's grown significantly since we split the boys and girls at the mite level.

Yes that was me...

The points you bring up are very valid. Something each and every association should take a hard look at.

There is a level of responsibility at each local program to recruit players or at least build interest in the youth programs. Many haven't recognized the importance of this at the younger girls levels. That's where you run into the few dads doing all the work, then moving on.

Building the program needs to happen more at the association level, and get those energetic parents involved as well. Most times it's the other way around.
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This is a learning curve for all involved, and the numbers cycle is a long term problem until the association has a better following. The social side is more important for girls hockey, especially at the younger ages. If you don't have the pizza, bowling, and so on from the start the numbers game is much more difficult. Unless you've personally been through that, it's impossible to understand. There are always those few girls that don't need the social side, but the majority do.

From past experience, those few girls at the top of the ability scale will fit nicely with the rest as long as the coaching staff recognizes the needs of the group and sets up resonable learning experiences for all.
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