Blades open up Brick tryout to all Minnesota 2001 players
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In regards to my credibility: when i said here say I poking fun at your challenges at spelling.chumlee from the brick wrote:If you look back hot sauce said he had a 01 Monoply player? Like i said earlier its not Blades or Machine parents..It's wanna be Blades parents!!
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Beyond that I do have an 01' and he will not be going to the brick. He isn't at an appropriate competitive level for that tournament. He is not the only kid in my household. If it makes you feel better to question my credibility that's fine. If you don't trust I have been to
The brick go on the blades website and you'll see team rosters. Talk to any kid/parent about their brick experience and I'm sure they'll all tell you how great it was.
Getting back to my point. There will be a team from Minnesota at the tournament and they will do well and more importantly they will have an amazing experience.
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1. Don't sell The Brick tournament short. It is very special. One player's father called it one of the best hockey experiences his family has had. This comes from a player who won the State H.S. tournament, won championships with the Gophers and is now in the NHL. This tournament experience really is different.
2. Its about the kids. Most coaches recognize that principle. The Icemen and others are enthusiastic about giving their players this opportunity. So far, only the Machine has threatened action against those families who choose to participate. Its not really about whether BM "lets" his families participate. The families are free to make their own decisions.
3. There is no need for drama around this decision. We have a Blades-quality coach standing by and ready to provide a place to play and train next summer for any 10 y.o. who has negative consequences as a result of trying out for this team. Contact me if you want more details on that.
2. Its about the kids. Most coaches recognize that principle. The Icemen and others are enthusiastic about giving their players this opportunity. So far, only the Machine has threatened action against those families who choose to participate. Its not really about whether BM "lets" his families participate. The families are free to make their own decisions.
3. There is no need for drama around this decision. We have a Blades-quality coach standing by and ready to provide a place to play and train next summer for any 10 y.o. who has negative consequences as a result of trying out for this team. Contact me if you want more details on that.
And you would know this how? It is amazing the ignorance of posters on this board who claim to know about these things and their kids are still 6 years old. Don't listen to them hockey parents.HockeyDad41 wrote:Relax folks. This is just another tournament for 9-10 year olds. Why this tournament is supposed to be better than any other out there is a mystery. At the end of the day you still have a bunch of 9-10 year olds out there trying to take it coast to coast far more often than they pass.
Kudos to the Brick people who have been very successful in promoting an almost meaningless tournament to the point where grown and allegedly mature adults will act like idiots trying to get their kids into it.
The Brick is an unbelievable hockey experience and one these kids never forget. If your kid doesn't make it - is it the end of your career - of course not. But if your kid has the skill and could have the opportunity to go, I wouldn't let ANYONE stand in your way. Don't listen to the hockey dads (like 41) who have no clue and even less experience and still have Mites. Listen to the ones who have been there. Contact Terry Moore and the Blades. Your son will thank you.
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Doglover - didn't your kids finish youth hockey in the 90's? Do you stalk other posters or am I just the lucky one?Doglover wrote:And you would know this how? It is amazing the ignorance of posters on this board who claim to know about these things and their kids are still 6 years old. Don't listen to them hockey parents.HockeyDad41 wrote:Relax folks. This is just another tournament for 9-10 year olds. Why this tournament is supposed to be better than any other out there is a mystery. At the end of the day you still have a bunch of 9-10 year olds out there trying to take it coast to coast far more often than they pass.
Kudos to the Brick people who have been very successful in promoting an almost meaningless tournament to the point where grown and allegedly mature adults will act like idiots trying to get their kids into it.
The Brick is an unbelievable hockey experience and one these kids never forget. If your kid doesn't make it - is it the end of your career - of course not. But if your kid has the skill and could have the opportunity to go, I wouldn't let ANYONE stand in your way. Don't listen to the hockey dads (like 41) who have no clue and even less experience and still have Mites. Listen to the ones who have been there. Contact Terry Moore and the Blades. Your son will thank you.
To everyone in the know, I'm sure the Brick is a great tournament. As a percentage, would you say it is the most fun by how much? Is it more fun by 75% than say the Carribou Cup? Would it be 150% funner than the Subway Classic? Would you have to attend 2 tournaments, one in Chicago and the other in Las Vegas to equal one trip to the Brick?
According to several 10 year old hockey players surveyed, the greatest most awesome tournament they ever attended was the last one. Can't remember the name of it or how they did in it, but they loved the pool at the hotel and going out for pizza after the game. Seems like the parents were the only ones that remembered the scores.
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Homewrecker.terrymoore1717 wrote:1. Don't sell The Brick tournament short. It is very special. One player's father called it one of the best hockey experiences his family has had. This comes from a player who won the State H.S. tournament, won championships with the Gophers and is now in the NHL. This tournament experience really is different.
2. Its about the kids. Most coaches recognize that principle. The Icemen and others are enthusiastic about giving their players this opportunity. So far, only the Machine has threatened action against those families who choose to participate. Its not really about whether BM "lets" his families participate. The families are free to make their own decisions.
3. There is no need for drama around this decision. We have a Blades-quality coach standing by and ready to provide a place to play and train next summer for any 10 y.o. who has negative consequences as a result of trying out for this team. Contact me if you want more details on that.
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It's sad that you always feel the need to make dumb comments. Of things in which you have no understanding or experience.HockeyDad41 wrote:Doglover - didn't your kids finish youth hockey in the 90's? Do you stalk other posters or am I just the lucky one?Doglover wrote:And you would know this how? It is amazing the ignorance of posters on this board who claim to know about these things and their kids are still 6 years old. Don't listen to them hockey parents.HockeyDad41 wrote:Relax folks. This is just another tournament for 9-10 year olds. Why this tournament is supposed to be better than any other out there is a mystery. At the end of the day you still have a bunch of 9-10 year olds out there trying to take it coast to coast far more often than they pass.
Kudos to the Brick people who have been very successful in promoting an almost meaningless tournament to the point where grown and allegedly mature adults will act like idiots trying to get their kids into it.
The Brick is an unbelievable hockey experience and one these kids never forget. If your kid doesn't make it - is it the end of your career - of course not. But if your kid has the skill and could have the opportunity to go, I wouldn't let ANYONE stand in your way. Don't listen to the hockey dads (like 41) who have no clue and even less experience and still have Mites. Listen to the ones who have been there. Contact Terry Moore and the Blades. Your son will thank you.
To everyone in the know, I'm sure the Brick is a great tournament. As a percentage, would you say it is the most fun by how much? Is it more fun by 75% than say the Carribou Cup? Would it be 150% funner than the Subway Classic? Would you have to attend 2 touraments, one in Chicago and the other in Las Vegas to equal one trip to the Brick?
According to several 10 year old hockey players surveyed, the greatest most awesome tournament they ever attended was the last one. Can't remember the name of it or how they did in it, but they loved the pool at the hotel and going out for pizza after the game. Seems like the parents were the only ones that remembered the scores.
There is a kid in my boy's association who went 3 years ago. His words " we didn't win it, but if I could go to any tournament in the world it would be the brick. When another kid said what about the Stanley cup he said still probably the brick. " obviously kids can't see to far ahead of themselve but if you look at the way they light up when they talk about the brick it says a lot. To these kids the caribou cup etc is just another tournament.
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Every Machine individual who has come on here can't defend this statement. Your only defense is to bash the tournament. Most of us have seen the Little League World Series, played by children and watched all across the country. This is the Brick Squirt hockey tournament in Canada, played by children and watched all across that country. Games are televised live, interviews by Don Cherry, and results are printed on the front page of the newspaper every morning. Go ahead and show your ignorance by bashing the tourney and at the same time avoiding the real reasons why BM is making your decisions and not YOU! Really, little Johnny does deserve better...Get control of your life back.terrymoore1717 wrote:1. Don't sell The Brick tournament short. It is very special. One player's father called it one of the best hockey experiences his family has had. This comes from a player who won the State H.S. tournament, won championships with the Gophers and is now in the NHL. This tournament experience really is different.
2. Its about the kids. Most coaches recognize that principle. The Icemen and others are enthusiastic about giving their players this opportunity.Its not really about whether BM "lets" his families participate. The families are free to make their own decisions.So far, only the Machine has threatened action against those families who choose to participate.
3. There is no need for drama around this decision. We have a Blades-quality coach standing by and ready to provide a place to play and train next summer for any 10 y.o. who has negative consequences as a result of trying out for this team. Contact me if you want more details on that.
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Whether or not the Brick is the best youth tournament around is not really the issue. The issue, as I see it, is that you have a guy telling parents their kids can't try out for it.....The same guy who is pissed about D6 telling their players they can't play in the Choice League.
Again, no one is denying that BM can set the rules around his program....I just find it funny that parents are willing to accept being told what to do at this young age by a guy that THEY ARE PAYING. No wonder that they eventually get tired of it and the teams end up imploding after a couple of years. Bernie is acting as if HE is the "demanding customer" when it is HE who is collecting the checks from these subservient parents.
Doesn't anyone else find that just goofy?
Again, no one is denying that BM can set the rules around his program....I just find it funny that parents are willing to accept being told what to do at this young age by a guy that THEY ARE PAYING. No wonder that they eventually get tired of it and the teams end up imploding after a couple of years. Bernie is acting as if HE is the "demanding customer" when it is HE who is collecting the checks from these subservient parents.
Doesn't anyone else find that just goofy?
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So are the blades hoisting the white flag? In years past they could form their own team go to any tournament including the brick and compete. Now they can't recruit the best kids into their program -for whatever reason - and they want to have a special tryout and screw with other teams. Like they and this stupid tournament is so important that every other progam should feel honored to sacrifice a part of their summer schedule to accomodate the blades.
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Whatever. Move on. And if the orange can't particiapte, don't want to participate, maybe they should stay out of the discussion. There are several decent 2001 teams and plenty of solid players. If the kids come from from 4-5 different teams, all except 1, so be it. Glad the Blades opened up the tryouts and the team they take should be improved with the addition of 6-8 players from other clubs.
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How does a blades thread always end up blaming bernie. Machine kids can play in Brick tourney just not with the blades, they could play for someone else but the Blades will not give releases for Minnesota kids. If you want these kids to experience the Brick why not give releases so they can play for another team. I would say hypocracy abounds with this emmotional subject.
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Why is it that Bernie's MM is the ONLY program that won't allow their players to play with the Blades in this tournament? THE ONLY ONE! The answer is obvious and has nothing to do with the best interest of the players. It's all about $$$ for BM.Pucksahater wrote:How does a blades thread always end up blaming bernie. Machine kids can play in Brick tourney just not with the blades, they could play for someone else but the Blades will not give releases for Minnesota kids. If you want these kids to experience the Brick why not give releases so they can play for another team. I would say hypocracy abounds with this emmotional subject.
Again, it's a free country. But it's things like this that ultimately comes back to bite him in the end, anyways. He's his own worst enemy. Seek out a parent of his former 95 and 96 teams and ask them, if you don't believe me. After a while, players and parents tire of his dictatorial nature and move on.
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Probably because as a percentage of players his team would take the biggest hit.muckandgrind wrote:Why is it that Bernie's MM is the ONLY program that won't allow their players to play with the Blades in this tournament? THE ONLY ONE! The answer is obvious and has nothing to do with the best interest of the players. It's all about $$$ for BM.Pucksahater wrote:How does a blades thread always end up blaming bernie. Machine kids can play in Brick tourney just not with the blades, they could play for someone else but the Blades will not give releases for Minnesota kids. If you want these kids to experience the Brick why not give releases so they can play for another team. I would say hypocracy abounds with this emmotional subject.
Again, it's a free country. But it's things like this that ultimately comes back to bite him in the end, anyways. He's his own worst enemy. Seek out a parent of his former 95 and 96 teams and ask them, if you don't believe me. After a while, players and parents tire of his dictatorial nature and move on.
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If you look at the 95`s and 96`s you see playing now, they are usually the best on the ice and have alot of opportunities because of the developement they recieved when playing for the machine. Alot of parents see this and understand that The Brick is a great tourney but the bigger picture has alot to do with the decision making process.
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Pucksahater wrote:If you look at the 95`s and 96`s you see playing now, they are usually the best on the ice and have alot of opportunities because of the developement they recieved when playing for the machine. Alot of parents see this and understand that The Brick is a great tourney but the bigger picture has alot to do with the decision making process.
Yess, they are some of the best....but the Blades, Icemen and LSS also trained some damn fine players considered among the best. The difference is that those players stayed loyal to those programs....ever wonder why?
Another thing, I wouldn't give MM (or any other AAA program) sole credit for developing these players. I think their associations deserve a little credit as well.
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Hey Pucksy, how's your 98 Machine team looking next year after all the defections, or shall I say escapees? Why does everyone eventually leave to the point BM disbands the team?Pucksahater wrote:If you look at the 95`s and 96`s you see playing now, they are usually the best on the ice and have alot of opportunities because of the developement they recieved when playing for the machine. Alot of parents see this and understand that The Brick is a great tourney but the bigger picture has alot to do with the decision making process.
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muckandgrind wrote:Pucksahater wrote:If you look at the 95`s and 96`s you see playing now, they are usually the best on the ice and have alot of opportunities because of the developement they recieved when playing for the machine. Alot of parents see this and understand that The Brick is a great tourney but the bigger picture has alot to do with the decision making process.
Yess, they are some of the best....but the Blades, Icemen and LSS also trained some damn fine players considered among the best. The difference is that those players stayed loyal to those programs....ever wonder why?
Another thing, I wouldn't give MM (or any other AAA program) sole credit for developing these players.quote]I think their associations deserve a little credit as well.[/
I'm sure good old Pucksahater kids are too good to play little ol'association hockey?
Is the real reason that the Blades are opening up tryouts for the Brick to all of MN the fact that their 2000 team didn't show well this year? It seems like it has to do more with their losing then with being MN responsible. If the Blades were consistently winning at the Brick I don't think this would have happened.
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Does it really matter WHY the Blades opened the tryouts up? The fact is that the AAA landscape has changed in this town over the past few years. The talent has spread out and the Blades recognized that if winning the Brick is important, they should open up the tryout process to all kids. Is that so wrong?fidelis wrote:Is the real reason that the Blades are opening up tryouts for the Brick to all of MN the fact that their 2000 team didn't show well this year? It seems like it has to do more with their losing then with being MN responsible. If the Blades were consistently winning at the Brick I don't think this would have happened.
First you have MM parents complaining about the fact that the Blades don't open up their tryouts to non-Blades players, then when the Blades do that just - they either rip on the Blades for doing so and/or just accept the fact that Bernie controls what their kids can and cannot do when it comes to summer hockey......they'll just tell us it was "their choice" that their player isn't trying out.
Isn't it ironic that MM calls their in-season program the "Choice League" when, in fact, he likes to control everything himself??