Most Disappointing Teams
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20custom wrote:karl(east) wrote:Which experts said East would go undefeated? Howie Hanson?MNHockeyFan wrote:Duluth East.
The experts had me convinced they would go undefeated this season, but they didn't get it done.
At least Howie is man enough to use his real name...

Howie never used his real name in his various attempts to post on this forum.
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Too bad you aren't. Although we have a pretty good idea.20custom wrote:karl(east) wrote:Which experts said East would go undefeated? Howie Hanson?MNHockeyFan wrote:Duluth East.
The experts had me convinced they would go undefeated this season, but they didn't get it done.
At least Howie is man enough to use his real name...
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lol, good point, I guess I would say that going into the season I was neutral but I have really come to dislike the character of this team and their coach and so seeing them fall short of their potential does elicit some Happyness...MNHockeyFan wrote:Does this make you a HappyHockeyFan or are you truly disappointed?HappyHockeyFan wrote:Benilde St Margarets....all that talent (supposedly) and they barely deserve to be in the top ten.




It's not the Best players, it's the Right players! HB
I am disappointed in my hometown EGF.
It seems like for several years now they have been one of the top youth teams for both Peewees and Bantams in northern MN, but when they get to high school......
Can't figure it out.
R u joking... I have nothing but the best wishes for EGF… they went with two A teams early when other would not… I think their ranked 5th ..but I believe they could beat any of the four ranked above them….looking forward to watching (and pulling for them) in the MNHS hockey tournament (get there…don’t let me down)
It seems like for several years now they have been one of the top youth teams for both Peewees and Bantams in northern MN, but when they get to high school......
Can't figure it out.
R u joking... I have nothing but the best wishes for EGF… they went with two A teams early when other would not… I think their ranked 5th ..but I believe they could beat any of the four ranked above them….looking forward to watching (and pulling for them) in the MNHS hockey tournament (get there…don’t let me down)
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Burnsville looks to be heading towards the "most disappointed" category. Preseason prediction called for a plus 17 win season. Currently the team is sitting at 11-8-1. What happened to this team? Anybody know? Team is 6 and 6 since start of Schwans cup. Like to see them in St. Paul but they have tough schedule remaining with Prior Lake, Apple Valley and Eagan
With tHe way Edina played tonight I think the likelihood of seeing Burnsville in St Paul appears even less likely. Pretty big drop off after their first line.northwoods oldtimer wrote:Burnsville looks to be heading towards the "most disappointed" category. Preseason prediction called for a plus 17 win season. Currently the team is sitting at 11-8-1. What happened to this team? Anybody know? Team is 6 and 6 since start of Schwans cup. Like to see them in St. Paul but they have tough schedule remaining with Prior Lake, Apple Valley and Eagan
Seen Moundsview beat Stillwater last night, they seem to have turned their season around?Goalie-Dad wrote:Mounds View is playing better. Nice wins against White Bear Lake, Roseville,Totino-Grace and Forest Lake. However they still have tough away games against White Bear Lake and Stillwater. Check back in a few weeks.
People didn't expect 11to 0.trev2k1 wrote:what were the expectations for wins this season?defense wrote:I will say that Fergus falls is a disappointment.
i think they only had 9/10 or so wins last season not?
they're a compettive team, not a great team.
they don't really have a go to guy for scoring, ahlgren is a playmaker not much of a goal scorer
the go to guy was brazil, why did he leave?
and i believe its the starting goalies first year varsity?
got a few weeks to put it together and make a run in sections, they still have a fairly good shot being that right now to me its a 3 team race between ff, alex and lf. and apollo is lingering at 4th
Catching the drift yet?
whos people?defense wrote:People didn't expect 11to 0.trev2k1 wrote:what were the expectations for wins this season?defense wrote:I will say that Fergus falls is a disappointment.
i think they only had 9/10 or so wins last season not?
they're a compettive team, not a great team.
they don't really have a go to guy for scoring, ahlgren is a playmaker not much of a goal scorer
the go to guy was brazil, why did he leave?
and i believe its the starting goalies first year varsity?
got a few weeks to put it together and make a run in sections, they still have a fairly good shot being that right now to me its a 3 team race between ff, alex and lf. and apollo is lingering at 4th
Catching the drift yet?
had a 75% save percentage against LF the other night and 74% tonight. tought to win those stats. they'll have their time soon, as little falls is gonna be rebuilding again soon
Not soon, now. This team has way more potential than that.people? Maybe us who are watching.trev2k1 wrote:whos people?defense wrote:People didn't expect 11to 0.trev2k1 wrote: what were the expectations for wins this season?
i think they only had 9/10 or so wins last season not?
they're a compettive team, not a great team.
they don't really have a go to guy for scoring, ahlgren is a playmaker not much of a goal scorer
the go to guy was brazil, why did he leave?
and i believe its the starting goalies first year varsity?
got a few weeks to put it together and make a run in sections, they still have a fairly good shot being that right now to me its a 3 team race between ff, alex and lf. and apollo is lingering at 4th
Catching the drift yet?
had a 75% save percentage against LF the other night and 74% tonight. tought to win those stats. they'll have their time soon, as little falls is gonna be rebuilding again soon
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Where is this PW ranking from?
blacklung wrote:Off topic, but...
Below below are the PeeWee A Rankings so far this year.
Normally EAST would be near the top of this list.
Future not looking too good for the north. Imo
1 Lakeville South A 35-4-2 19.44 4.75 14.69
2 Prior Lake Savage Lakers A 40-4-0 18.53 3.63 14.90
3 Osseo Maple Grove A 27-6-5 18.02 2.84 15.18
4 Elk River Elks A 31-5-2 17.88 3.76 14.12
5 Edina Hornets A 24-11-0 17.80 1.97 15.83
6 Eden Prairie Eagles A 24-14-2 17.41 1.67 15.74
7 Centennial Cougars A 27-7-6 16.77 2.42 14.35
8 Stillwater Ponies A 20-6-7 16.76 2.18 14.58
9 Minnetonka Skippers A 25-10-1 16.55 1.38 15.17
10 Hermantown Hawks A 23-2-0 15.96 4.16 11.80
11 Wayzata Trojans (Blue) A 12-9-6 15.54 0.59 14.95
12 Roseau Rams A 18-6-0 15.31 2.54 12.77
13 St Michael-Albertville Knights A 24-6-3 15.03 2.36 12.67
14 Woodbury Predators A 21-15-2 15.01 0.57 14.44
15 Rochester (Red) A 8-7-4 15.00 0.26 14.74
16 Highland Central Capitals A 12-7-1 14.97 1.45 13.52
17 Lakeville North A 15-11-3 14.90 0.68 14.22
18 Bloomington Jefferson Jaguars A 19-12-2 14.87 1.00 13.87
19 White Bear Lake Bears A 20-13-5 14.86 0.31 14.55
20 Farmington Tigers A 16-15-4 14.68 0.20 14.48
21 Mounds View Mustangs A 14-8-5 14.59 1.07 13.52
22 Wayzata Trojans (Gold) A 17-11-2 14.55 -0.16 14.71
23 Irondale Knights A 24-4-2 14.52 2.40 12.12
24 East Grand Forks Green Wave A 8-5-0 14.42 1.69 12.73
25 Shakopee Sabres A 12-8-1 14.03 1.42 12.61
26 Waconia Wildcats A 23-15-3 13.87 0.65 13.22
27 Crow River Tigers A 8-3-0 13.80 1.36 12.44
28 Hastings Raiders A 11-7-3 13.68 0.80 12.88
29 Bemidji Lumberjacks A 13-10-1 13.63 1.25 12.38
30 Champlin Park Rebels A 17-13-7 13.48 0.56 12.92
31 Orono Spartans A 15-7-4 13.44 1.34 12.10
32 Chaska Hawks A 12-19-3 13.42 -0.47 13.89
33 Anoka Tornadoes A 18-12-1 13.41 0.22 13.19
34 Tartan Titans A 17-12-7 13.39 0.02 13.37
35 Forest Lake Rangers A 13-15-4 13.38 -0.09 13.47
36 Burnsville Blaze A 15-14-1 13.36 -0.63 13.99
37 Monticello (MAML) Moose A 22-9-1 13.25 1.84 11.41
38 Sartell Sabres A 14-5-0 12.97 3.00 9.97
39 Duluth East A 23-22-0 12.94 0.24 12.70
40 Hibbing BlueJackets A 11-6-0 12.90 1.76 11.14
41 Cloquet Lumberjacks A 11-11-2 12.84 -0.20 13.04
42 Blaine Bengals A 12-14-5 12.82 -0.32 13.14
43 Eastview Lightning A 13-12-4 12.79 0.03 12.76
44 Mound Westonka White Hawks A 12-23-2 12.74 -0.43 13.17
45 Buffalo Bison A 18-6-1 12.69 2.12 10.57
46 Moorhead Spuds A 10-11-1 12.63 0.36 12.27
47 Grand Rapids Thunderhawks A 12-14-2 12.60 -0.14 12.74
48 Minneapolis Storm A 10-15-4 12.59 -0.62 13.21
49 St Cloud Huskies A 21-15-1 12.43 0.97 11.46
50 Rosemount Irish A 15-21-3 12.36 -0.33 12.69
51 St Francis Saints A 8-10-1 12.33 0.00 12.33
52 Roseville Raiders A 7-15-1 12.26 -1.13 13.39
53 River Lakes Stars A 11-8-1 12.25 1.10 11.15
54 Virginia Blue Devils A 15-7-0 12.23 1.59 10.64
55 Warroad Warriors A 6-7-0 12.16 -0.07 12.23
56 Spring Lake Park Panthers A 5-14-2 12.08 -1.09 13.17
57 Luverne Cardinals A 16-4-2 12.07 2.45 9.62
58 Rogers Royals A 11-19-1 12.05 -0.87 12.92
59 Armstrong Cooper Falcons A 8-14-7 12.03 -0.44 12.47
60 Sibley Generals A 7-15-4 12.00 -1.11 13.11
61 Mahtomedi Zephyrs A 5-9-1 11.92 -1.40 13.32
62 Andover Huskies A 7-16-2 11.79 -1.28 13.07
63 Apple Valley Eagles A 8-14-3 11.78 -1.16 12.94
64 Cottage Grove Wolfpack A 6-9-4 11.41 -1.10 12.51
65 Fergus Falls Otters A 16-8-2 11.35 1.23 10.12
66 Brainerd Warriors A 16-16-1 11.25 0.12 11.13
67 Greenway Raiders A 7-7-0 11.01 0.07 10.94
68 Eagan Wildcats A 6-17-1 10.99 -2.45 13.44
69 North St Paul Polars A 1-10-0 10.83 -3.36 14.19
70 Mankato Mavericks A 14-11-3 10.80 0.85 9.95
71 Thief River Falls A 6-16-0 10.77 -2.59 13.36
72 Bloomington Kennedy Eagles A 5-17-2 10.70 -2.29 12.99
73 Duluth Denfeld Hunters A 4-15-0 10.37 -1.68 12.05
74 Coon Rapids Cardinals A 7-19-1 10.20 -2.22 12.42
75 New Prague Trojans A 13-16-3 9.94 -0.81 10.75
76 Alexandria Cardinals A 13-10-1 9.85 0.04 9.81
77 Redwood Falls Cardinals A 4-4-0 9.52 0.37 9.15
78 Hopkins Royals A 4-23-0 9.32 -3.44 12.76
79 Red Wing Wingers A 9-13-2 9.06 -0.70 9.76
80 St Louis Park Orioles A 2-19-0 8.97 -3.28 12.25
81 Northfield Raiders A 11-14-0 8.70 -0.56 9.26
82 Lake of the Woods Bears A 3-6-2 8.63 -1.72 10.35
83 Moorhead Spuds A2 8-11-1 8.55 -0.90 9.45
84 Detroit Lakes Lakers A 9-19-1 8.52 -1.03 9.55
85 Cambridge-Isanti Blue Jackets A 2-19-0 8.42 -4.47 12.89
86 Sauk Rapids Storm A 5-12-0 8.35 -1.88 10.23
87 SSP/IGH A 3-17-0 8.32 -4.40 12.72
88 International Falls Broncos A 3-9-2 8.28 -1.35 9.63
89 Rochester (Black) A 10-16-1 8.19 -2.14 10.33
90 Owatonna Huskies A 11-9-0 8.14 0.00 8.14
91 Albert Lea Tigers A 9-14-1 7.84 -0.95 8.79
92 Eveleth-Gilbert/Mesabi East A 6-20-0 7.76 -2.42 10.18
93 Crookston Pirates A 1-14-1 7.75 -4.18 11.93
94 Hutchinson Tigers A 6-17-1 7.67 -2.79 10.46
95 Austin Packers A 7-14-1 7.10 -2.45 9.55
96 Faribault Falcons A 6-17-3 6.54 -1.96 8.50
97 Marshall Tigers A 4-15-1 6.50 -3.35 9.85
98 Pequot Lakes-CIA A 4-9-1 6.44 -2.21 8.65
99 Dodge County Wildcats A 6-13-0 6.34 -1.78 8.12
100 New Ulm Eagles A 5-23-0 6.24 -2.17 8.41
101 Proctor Rails A 2-14-0 5.84 -5.00 10.84
102 Little Falls Flyers A 1-14-0 5.76 -3.80 9.56
103 Litchfield-Dassel-Cokato A 1-14-0 5.28 -5.60 10.88
104 Walker/Leach Lake Ice Wolves A 1-12-0 5.11 -4.53 9.64
105 Willmar Cardinals A 0-10-0 3.96 -6.40 10.36
Here are the latest MN PWA rankings,
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=p&v=164
Click on the green box, on the right, to see each individual team's score vs. each opponent. One of the best features of this site is it helps teams schedule out of District games vs. teams with similar records and ability.
Bantam A
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=b&v=166
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=p&v=164
Click on the green box, on the right, to see each individual team's score vs. each opponent. One of the best features of this site is it helps teams schedule out of District games vs. teams with similar records and ability.
Bantam A
http://myhockeyrankings.com/rank.php?y=2011&a=b&v=166
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I've studied it in the past and I believe EP last year was only the 3rd:observer wrote:The best known example is the EP team that graduated last year. They were Pee State A Champs their second year, Bantam A State champs their second year and HS State Champs their 1st and 3rd years.
-Edina: '69 Pee Wee A champs, '71 Bantam A champs, '74 HS Champs
-Jefferson: '88 Pee Wee A champs, '90 Bantam A champs (only loss was in the national final), '93 HS champs
Roseau won PWA in '85 and was runner up in Bantam A in '87 and won the HS in '90. Interesting note: Grand Rapids was PWA runner up in '85 and was the Bantam A state champ in '87 and the HS runner-up in '90. Those two classes faced each other in the state championship each time.
Last year's EP senior class is still a step below Crowley's and a tad under Checco's, IMO, but will rank as one of the best of all time without a doubt.
That's some great information, Doc.Doc Holliday wrote:I've studied it in the past and I believe EP last year was only the 3rd:
-Edina: '69 Pee Wee A champs, '71 Bantam A champs, '74 HS Champs
-Jefferson: '88 Pee Wee A champs, '90 Bantam A champs (only loss was in the national final), '93 HS champs
Roseau won PWA in '85 and was runner up in Bantam A in '87 and won the HS in '90. Interesting note: Grand Rapids was PWA runner up in '85 and was the Bantam A state champ in '87 and the HS runner-up in '90. Those two classes faced each other in the state championship each time.
Last year's EP senior class is still a step below Crowley's and a tad under Checco's, IMO, but will rank as one of the best of all time without a doubt.
Thanks for sharing it!

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